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CommanderByron (619 D Mod (S))
11 Nov 17 UTC
#MeToo
There’s enough vile people on here I think this conversation would be fun to watch.
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LeonWalras (402 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
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We need extensive background checks
before people are allowed to shitpost on the forum.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Alabama GOP
Please go away.

-Sincerely, Everyone
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Smokey Gem (204 D)
09 Nov 17 UTC
Is it possible that human kind will ever live in peace. ?
We all want it that incredible vast majority. o why do we do what we do . How can we be so benovolent and violent at thesame time?
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CommanderByron (619 D Mod (S))
08 Nov 17 UTC
Curiosity: Coloreds
Why are the countries colored differently than the original board? anyone with insight, not complaining just curious.
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swordsman3003 (10555 D (G))
10 Nov 17 UTC
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hypothetical changes to classic map
Ideas I have had that I thought might improve balancing. Not saying that I would advocate for all of these; they're just ideas I think about sometimes.
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damian (675 D)
08 Nov 17 UTC
48 Hour Full Press. GR 250+
Does anyone want to play a game?
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brainbomb (474 D)
08 Nov 17 UTC
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After how many times Jurassic Park has failed why is there still investors?
How many times has this place failed or expeditions to it have failed? Seems like the liability lawsuits alone wouldve ensured that park wouldnt have ever been remade.
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Randomizer (100 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
It's easier to get a gun, than ….
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/health/getting-gun-ease-trnd/index.html

In the wake of the last two mass shootings, I didn't know that I would have a harder time buying a puppy than a gun. There are even more restrictions to join Diplomacy.
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LeonWalras (402 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
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Daily MARX
In celebration of recent forum breakthroughs, I thought we'd bring back the daily Marx thread. Post your Marx quotes here.
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damo666 (215 D)
09 Nov 17 UTC
Players Ranks
How are these determined? Compare these two: a) Played 25 Defeated 7 (28%) Won 2 (8%) Drawn 11 (44%) Survived 5 (20%) Rank EXPERIENCED b) Played 21 Defeated 6 (29%) Won 4 (19%) Drawn 4 (19%) Survived 7 (33%) Rank POLITICAL PUPPET. Just wondering.....
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HBbuc (113 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
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Hypothetical scenario
Hypothetical scenario: Get rid of Gender pronouns and call everyone and everyone and everything "it" and other variations of that.

Your thoughts?
StevenC. (1047 D (B))
30 Oct 17 UTC
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But, why?
Fluminator (511 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
I'm all on board with people changing their genders to be the other one, but I'm still on the fence of the belief 32 genders exist or whatever the number is. But I mean, I'd be willing to call them it if that's what they want.
Ogion (3943 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Sure why not. Many languages already do
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
30 Oct 17 UTC
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Won't work.

Some overly righteous and pompous snowflake will still get offended
JamesYanik (548 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
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@Ogion

actually, many other languages are SO gendered, the endings of many words are extremely dependent on genders.


however, I'll pose this question:

are "he" and "she" referring to gender, or sex? At the time they were created, the two were nearly synonymous with minor differences.

in the modern era of "gender identity," the definition of gender has essentially become synonymous with personality.

the only difference is individuals can't change tie personality on a whim by calling it something else, and also if someone sees you as more or less arrogant than you see yourself, you don't get massively offended and call that person transphobe.

-- I am separating this issue from transexualism, which is a very different matter in regards to pronouns --

because gender "apparently" has zero relation to sex now, all i propose is that they are now pronouns that correspond to one's sex.

He is referring to the male sex (those who carry the SRY gene) and She is referring to the female sex (those who do not carry the SRY gene)


in other news, the word gender has lot all importance. what gender you identify as is equally important as what personality you identify as. the subjective view of your personality by others is also matched by the subjective view of your personality.


see how nothing changed when you disconnect gender from sex? reality is reality, and these dumb little definitions are getting us nowhere
MajorMitchell (984 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Wouldn't it be of more use to simplify all verbs, so that they didn't have to change for different tenses..eg past present & future, or change like French ( & english ) verbs depending on association with, me, you, him her, them etc.
Is your suggestion intended to apply to semi literate speakers of "pidgin" English like those wascally webellious blighters from the North American colonies ?
MajorMitchell (984 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
What are the variations of "that" ? shat ? is that the past tense of shit ? Is shit a variation of it ? Or a hybrid of she & it ? Like the masculine hybrids hitim & shitim ?
Ogion (3943 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
MM. English is already a pidgin, or rather a Germanic- Franco creole. It has a vastly simplified grammar compared to either.

And the language you are looking for in mandarin. No genders to the pronouns and no conjugations. Estonian also has nongendered third person pronouns, and by some bizarre turn, it's the same non gendered pronoun in both malfuages
Ogion (3943 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Languges
StevenC. (1047 D (B))
30 Oct 17 UTC
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I speak spanish and spanish is an extremely gendered language. Every noun in Spanish is considered to have either masculine or feminine gender for grammatical purposes.
Stressedlines (1530 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
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Most INdo-European languages are very gendered English is one of the few that is not, I think. I would have to check on Iranian and the Indian dialects, but in Europe I think there is 3 or 4 that dont use genders?

All the Romantics certainly do, I think all the Germanics do, except English? Slavics do (at least Russian does)
Deeply_Dippy (435 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Languages evolve over time to reflect the society that is using it. If so, it does not require anyone to make artificial and forced changes to it - which won't work anyway unless all users comply. Given that most people learn their native tongue extremely early in life (and then only accept relatively minor changes to it, such as new vocabulary) change is invariably slow.

To try and make a sweeping change reminds me of Orwellian newspeak - a fictional language created for social control. I wouldn't want to support that.
Smokey Gem (204 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Yeah man .Thats a cool idea dude ,

To my fellow Hu-its , the future of it-kind is under threat by its continual use of fossil fuels . (Or is fossils offensive and we should say age impaired)

Language naturally evolves

Girls used to refer to very young children so the term " You throw like a girl did not mean female it meant like a smnall child. Males children used to be dressed in pink and females or fe-its as you prefer in blue. So the point is get your head out of your unshaven hippy ass and take things in context and as how they are meant and intended.
Smokey Gem (204 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Killer " Somebody Told Me " classic song.
JECE (1322 D)
06 Nov 17 UTC
In my early years on the phpDip/webDip Forum I called users 'it' until I knew their gender. As I put it in May 2010, "I use 'it' to refer to indetermanite on-line genders."
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
06 Nov 17 UTC
then what do i call cousin it? what about the knights who say ni?!?
jason4747 (119 D)
06 Nov 17 UTC
Austin Powers test: does it have bits and pieces? Wedding tackle? Twig and berries? Meat and potatoes?

Is it sounds Fahjah?
orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Nov 17 UTC
I don't know why you'd use it when we already have a perfectly good gender neutral pronoun for people; singular they is in pretty common use, more convienent than the he/she alternative.

Like imagine you are out with a friend but don't want your parents to suspect you've been kissing said friend, you say something like 'oh yeah, i met up with them and we had coffee and saw that film everyone's been raging about'

Referring to them as him/her is really obvious and draws attention to the thing you're trying to hide...
Ogion (3943 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
Bingo
Ogion (3943 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
How about calling people what they want to be called and not getting your undies in a knot bing upset that other people aren't you?
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
07 Nov 17 UTC
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Calling people want they want to be called? Sweet!

From this point forward I wish to be called “Better than Ogion in every conceivable way”

Done.

No one should get their undies in a bunch over that, right?
ghug (4034 D Mod (B))
07 Nov 17 UTC
"Some overly righteous and pompous snowflake will still get offended"

It's self-aware!

"actually, many other languages are SO gendered, the endings of many words are extremely dependent on genders."

And others have no grammatical gender, which is what he was saying. And others have three, or four, or six.

Grammatical gender is really just about classes of nouns. It happens that a lot of languages, especially Indo-European ones, have two and male and female are in different ones, which makes that an easy way to distinguish them (and is in fact the source of our using the word "gender" outside of the linguistic context in the first place). You don't have to look that far even in the Indo European languages to see that grammatical gender isn't a direct correspondence to what we think of as gender. Young girl (Madchen) is neuter in German. Most (all?) Romance languages have the genders "backwards". The existence of neuter itself throws a wrench in things. Latin has two ways of classifying nouns, one of which has simply been named declension for clarity. I could go on. Outside of Indo European, you find several languages whose genders are "animate" and "inanimate", and others with many more that don't have any real semantic meaning.

As for the issue at hand, I don't think there's much point in trying to force linguistic change. Just look at the joke that is L'Academie Francaise. You could try to make it happen, and it may be nobly motivated, but it won't work. There are a couple Germanic languages that have kept a neuter gender while losing the masculine/feminine distinction, which suggests to me that it could happen naturally (though I'm not sure if they've kept gendered pronouns and occasional words while losing grammatical gender in the way we have). I think it's pretty easy to just call someone by their preferred pronouns and leave it at that, even if it doesn't sound particularly natural to you. If that's a real issue for you, it's probably because you're uncomfortable with the idea more than the language.
TooCoolSunday (207 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
My problem is with the language. I am okay with language changing over time; I think it's why English works so well around the world. But there are uses of English that disturb me so much that the meaning of the text is lost momentarily while my attention is focused on it. The now classical 'your' and 'you're', the horrendous 'could of' and anytime someone says they are 'loving' their meal. Losing he and she would just add to my grumpy old man stance.
Ogion (3943 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
Well, I appreciate a good grumpy old man stance, that's for sure.
JECE (1322 D)
09 Nov 17 UTC
I've always wondered about the history of genders in Romance languages. In Spanish, a group of people of mixed sex/gender is referred to with masculine pronouns and adjectives. Is it fair for me to defend Spanish by saying that there are really just neuter and feminine genders in the language, with no masculine gender at all? Or is that a bastardization of the language's history?


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Thaneofwhiterun (1266 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
Where did everybody go?
I feel so lonely, I can't even start up a 1v1 game...
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daveliney (449 D)
08 Nov 17 UTC
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Remove the no orders/saved/ready icons
There are 10 minutes to go and still !! is shown next to a country. It's probably going to NMR. This allows countries around it to make moves that they normally wouldn't confident that the sensible supports and moves to SCs won't take place. Which unbalances the game.

If the icons were removed then it is less obvious that an NMR is about to happen. Is there a reason for the icons that I'm missing?
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fdfggg123 (0 D X)
09 Nov 17 UTC
JANUARY Furniture
JANUARY Furniture is specialized in manufacturing quality custom furniture for the hotel, resort, department and hospitality industry etc.http://www.jyhotelfurniture.com/
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JEccles (425 D)
08 Nov 17 UTC
CD vs NMR
I'm looking at my CD's and NMR's, and I noticed that in one game that I had a Civil Disorder, it gave me 12 NMR's, another CD 3 NMR's, and then the rest of my CD's I have 0 NMR's. Can anyone explain how this works and why there's such a huge discrepancy on this? And is this also a "double jeopardy" against my Reliability Rating to count NMR's and CD's from the same game? This part has always confused me. Thanks!
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Condescension (10 D X)
08 Nov 17 UTC
School of War Drama Thread
Since the drama in the official thread has been Shut Down, please post all drama related xontent here.
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Tanteno (126 D)
08 Nov 17 UTC
World diplomacy - color pallet
So I've been playing a lot of world diplomacy lately and I've notices something that has been bothering me.

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MKECharlie (1926 D (G))
04 Nov 17 UTC
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Procrastination
I was selected to speak at a Meetup and a tech conference, both next week. The best part of getting chosen is how much stuff I'm getting done in order to avoid working on my speeches!
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LeonWalras (402 D)
19 Oct 17 UTC
New Zealand has a new Prime Minister
Labour did a full coalition deal with our weird centrist version of UKIP, so that'll be interesting. Greens to make up the numbers with confidence and supply in exchange for policy concessions and ministers outside of cabinet. I for one am cautiously optimistic about the coalition of chaos.
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ssorenn (2662 D (G))
31 Oct 17 UTC
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Terror attack in NY
Another Islamic militant, drove a truck into bike lane in lower manhattan kills at least 6 with dozens more injured. Hmm, all you snowflakes want more of these fucks in our boarders. Sad. My heart and condolences to those hurt.
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MoscowFleet (136 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
MLB Playoffs
Who ya got?? I really like this Houston team, but Cleveland has been on some sort of roll. Dark horse to win it all for me is Arizona. Looking forward to tonight’s game!
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brainbomb (474 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
Trumpy Bear
https://youtu.be/i9qv8RSreIM
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Hellenic Riot (1574 D (G))
06 Nov 17 UTC
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November Ghost Ratings Published
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist

As ever, +1's are always welcome! :)
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Peregrine Falcon (1581 D (B))
04 Nov 17 UTC
Conspiracy Theories
Which do you subscribe to? The moon landing? The Illuminati? The US liberal media? Trump and Russia? GMOs? Climate change? 9/11? The Holocaust? The war against Islam? Aliens? Planet X? Vaccines? Chemtrails? Flat earth? Obama's birthplace? Deep state? Fluoridation?
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Durga (1187 D)
01 Nov 17 UTC
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Thinking about how to improve webdip
See below
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MajorMitchell (984 D)
03 Nov 17 UTC
Refugees.. Does Uganda treat refugees better than many wealthy Nations ?
More refugees from South Sudan entered Uganda in the last 12 months than entered Europe. Uganda allows them to enter, to work, gives many a small plot of land to farm. To appease locals in regional areas where refugees settle the Government allocates 30% of aid to local communities. My own Nation, Australia, a relatively wealthy nation treats some refugees well, but others with harsh treatment, incarceration in detention camps.
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abgemacht (840 D (G))
04 Nov 17 UTC
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Carnage Con
Well it only took 8 hours, but placed second as Turkey in Game 1 Board 1
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2ndWhiteLine (2880 D (B))
14 Aug 17 UTC
New ex-mod game
PM for info. Non-anon public press. Former mods preferred.
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captainmeme (844 D Mod)
17 Oct 17 UTC
1v1 Showdown - The Grand Final
110 Players. 500 Games. 2 Finalists.

After 10 months, it’s time to decide the Showdown’s victor.
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