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Foxcastle (100 D)
04 Nov 17 UTC
Are countries assigned randomly?
New to this site here, so sorry if this is answered elsewhere that I didn't find. Are countries assigned randomly when a game starts? (I'm noticing in the Championship Belt Game Series that xorxes always plays Austria and captainmeme always plays France, but have not found any setting for choosing a country or assigning preferences or anything.)
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brainbomb (295 D)
04 Nov 17 UTC
Uber is kind of cool
So, I dont actually plan to spend money. But I downloaded this cool app called uber. I think its like, taxi cabs or toy cars or something. But they move. They wiggle around and travel places on this cool map that looks a little like real life. I watched this one car strolling down a highway. This is neat. How do I take over one of these cartoon car thingys
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
29 Oct 17 UTC
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Welcoming back Jamiet
Jamiet has agreed to follow site rules and has been unbanned. Welcome back, Jamiet.
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KansasBoyd (25 DX)
02 Nov 17 UTC
Hiliary rigged her nomination
Former interim DNC Chairwoman Donna Brazile has come out exposing the Clinton campaign of taking over the DNC prior to her getting the nomination as the party's candidate which gave Clinton the control over the party's finances, strategy and all the money raised.

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brainbomb (295 D)
02 Nov 17 UTC
Thinking about how to improve America
Socialism, Communism, Authorotarian overthrow of the wealthy and redistribute it to the eternal poverty stricken forgotten workers.
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R3dox (261 D)
02 Nov 17 UTC
Incomplete orders on the small preview map are a problem.
Not all orders (most notably support orders) are shown on the small preview map of a game and, especially in Gunboat, this is pretty problematic.
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chluke (12292 D(G))
31 Oct 17 UTC
webDiplomacy Grand Slam!
Has anyone completed the webDiplomacy Grand Slam?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
John McCain
Tonight, I had the honor of listening to John McCain in one of his last public addresses.
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brainbomb (295 D)
20 Oct 17 UTC
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Mafia XXXII Official Sign-up Thread
Join Tom Bombadil and myself for the 32nd Webdip Mafia game. Starts Wed NOV. 1. See inside for glory and honor
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
7 Australian politicians Removed form parliment.
7 politicians were found to be dual citizeb=ns and have been elected including the Deputy Prime Minister and the depetu leader of the national party. 2 Ministers..5 senators..
Smokey Gem (154 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Ejected not elected. otr both now actually.
Octavious (2732 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
A victory for petty bureaucracy over common sense. Ridiculous law and a ridiculous decision. I'm sure that the good people of Australia can rest at ease safe in the knowledge that the insidious New Zealand plot to take over has been thwarted, or whatever crap it is this law was designed to achieve.
SpinDoctor (80 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Why? Is dual citizenship not permitted in Australia?
SpinDoctor (80 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Ok, I looked for all the thing on the internet... I think that banning dual citizenship MPs it's a little bit strange for Australia, a country historically linked with the concept of immigration and foreign ancestry. The fact that most of the ejected MPs were from NZ or UK (Commonwealth countries) makes it even more strange, since the head of state is the same in all those countries.
LeonWalras (865 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Dual citizenship is permitted, but not for members of parliament. It's almost as if constitutions designed over 100 years ago sometimes make no sense when applied to modern society.

In all seriousness though, who do you want gone from parliament next? New Zealand's government has to power to grant anyone citizenship, just ask Peter Thiel.
SpinDoctor (80 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Ahahahah, that would be really interesting. I mean, that would make Australia a puppet state of NZ. You vote against kiwi interests? You're now NZ citizen and this means you're OUT!
Anyway, I'm italian, and here in my country we have only "ius sanguinis" (basically, doesn't matter where you're born, you're Italian or can apply for an italian citizenship if at least one of your parents or grandparents are italian citizens; if you're born in Italy to non-italian parents you're not automatically entitled to obtain the citizenship). A lot of italians emigrated to Australia back in late 1800-early 1900, so the chance of some MPs having or being entitled to an italian citizenship in Australia could be real. But you can ship all of them to Italy if they want to continue their political careers, since we don't have any restrictions on dual national MPs.
SkiingCougar (1033 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
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Ooh I like the idea of New Zealands Western island finally being acknowledged as being a puppet state of NZ
Stressedlines (1559 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Spin, I know you are right about the Italy part, as my mother was born in Parma, and I was told I have the right to Italian citizenship if I so choose

If I recall, the US does not recognize dual citizenship
dargorygel (2684 DMod(G))
27 Oct 17 UTC
While a fun concept... I expect that a person would have to accept Kiwi citizenship before it becomes reality...
Ogion (3817 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Actually the US does. What is even more interesting is that some places make you automatically a citizen whether you know it of me not. So, if you're born in the US you're a citizen. Similarly some countries automatically grant citizenship to their citizens kids no matter where they are. I recently found out my kids and I are all dual citizens. (Well, they're triple citizens, actually, having gotten one from their mom
LeonWalras (865 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
That's the thing though. Barnaby Joyce never accepted kiwi citizenship. He didn't even know he had it, and when we revealed that he did, he renounced it, but the high court still threw him out.
Oztra (30 DX)
27 Oct 17 UTC
oh smoke, not all were removed
uncle nicko zenophon was allowed to stay but he ran away anyway, and matt caravan the italiano. even so, pretty big error by everyone
MajorMitchell (1605 D)
28 Oct 17 UTC
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It's ironic that what started as a political attack on the Greens, Senators Scott Ludlum & Larissa Waters ( who both resigned from the Senate promptly once they realised they were "dual citizens" and ineligible to hold parliamentary office when they nominated as candidates for the last Federal election & are replaced by Greens candidates ) has now caused One Nation Senator Roberts, and Government National Party Senator, Deputy Leader of the Nationals Fiona Nash, and Government Member of the House of Representatives, Leader of the Nationals, Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce all to be declared ineligible to hold Parliamentary office when they nominated as candidates for the last Federal election.
Sensibly, Matt Canavan and Fiona Nash resigned as Ministers while the matter went to the High Court. Stubbornly obtuse, Barnaby Joyce refused to do that, knowing that if he was declared ineligible by the High Court all decisions he has made as Minister for Agriculture are invalid and can be challenged in the High Court & overturned easily. The serious alledged corruption of the $Aus 13 billion dollar "water efficiency program & water buyback program" for the Murray Darling Basin is a further indication of Barnaby Joyce's failures as a Government Minister. He demanded that "Water portfolio" be shifted from Dept of Environment to Dept of Agriculture, and has been the Federal Minister responsible for the $Aus 13 billion dollar fund.
In a further embarrassment for the Federal government, Minister Michaela Cash's office is revealed as the source that leaked operational information about the Australian Federal Police raid on the Australian Workers Union Melbourne offices on Monday 22nd October to TV news media prior to the raid. Minister Cash's adviser Mr David De Garis ( from a well known famliy associated with the Liberal Party in South Australia ) has "jumped under the bus" to try to save Minister Cash by resigning his well paid job in Ms Cash's office and claiming that he leaked the information to TV news media, and that Minister Cash had no knowledge of his actions. ( that he would act in such a way, leaking the information, without consent is risible & not credible, imho ) What has not been explained is just how he gained the operational information from the Australian Federal Police.
It's fairly clear that the way the AWU has been targeted for investigation for just the period when current ALP Opposition Leader Bill Shorten was President of the AWU, is an indication that this "investigation" is driven by the Federal Government's need to attack Bill Shorten rather than any desire to ensure good governance at the AWU. Whatever the merits of the AFP raid on the AWU's Melbourne office, the leaking of operational information to the TV media prior to the raid is a disgraceful attempt to use the Australian Federal Police for political purposes.
Leaking of operational information about an AFP, or State Police investigation of any terrorist suspect(s) is a serious offence. Mr David De Garis is lucky the Australian Workers Union is not regarded as a terrorist organisation, otherwise he'd be looking at a lengthy prison sentence. It will be interesting to see how things pan out for him in the short, medium and long term. I wonder what inducements he may have been offered to play the part of the sacrificial goat.
Nick Xenophon is an interesting chap, he has the right to apply for British citenzship as his father lived in Cyprus when it was under British control. He'd never applied for British citizenship so the High Court determination in his case is straightforward and easy to understand. His resignation from the Federal Senate is in order to stand as a candidate in a State electorate in South Australia in the State election to be held sometime in the first half of 2018.
You can bet the Hotels Association and the gambling industry will be making generous "donations" to the ALP, Liberals and Nationals in South Australia given Nick Xenophon's opposition to pokie machines. It will be interesting to watch, as both the ALP and the Liberals & Nationals are caught on a dilemma as they'll most likely need Nick Xenophon's support to form a government after the election given current and long term polling results in Sth Australia.
So the dilemma they have is "How hard do they attack Nick Xenophon and his candidates during the election campaign ?" Go too hard and they risk alienating the people they'll be asking to help them form Government, or at least survive as a government.
Sth Australia has had ALP State governments for 16 years, and they're most unpopular with the electorate. However the Liberals are still tainted by the disastrous "honest" ( Liberal ) Premier John Olsen experience and internal factional warfare over the last two decades. They're a joke for being able to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" over repeated elections.
So both ALP and Liberals are seen as incompetent / unethical / self serving by the Sth Australian electorate and Nick Xenophon is seen largely as honest / hardworking and a "proven performer over 20 years in State, then Federal Parliaments"
Could be the "perfect storm" for the ALP and Liberals. I think that idea has a lot of attraction for voters in Sth Australia, the opportunity to give both major parties each a severe kick in the rear vestibule
Oztra (30 DX)
28 Oct 17 UTC
yeah fair
Wusti (889 D)
28 Oct 17 UTC
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The whole point of this section of the Constitution is to ensure that anyone elected to the Federal parliament does not have any conflict of interest, given one the main reasons behind Federation int eh first place was to implement a common Foreign Policy. Personally I see nothing wrong with it.

For all those who thinks its come kind of conspiracy - bullshit. It has always been thus, and the interesting thing to note is that not a single Labor politician got caught up in the scandal. They vet candidates like you wouldn't believe and actively challenge them on issues such as this - I know this first hand as my wife has gone through this exact process.

One thing of interest, given the attempted secession of Catalan in Spain, is that in Australia, the primary legislatures are the State ones, not the Federal. Federal Parliament only has those rights because they are granted by the States (hence why Income Tax is now a Federal levy, it was never a Federal right under the original arrangements, and the individual State Constitutions allow them complete power to secede.

NZ is just pissed off that their forebears were so stupid as to reject the invitation to join the Australian Federation back in the 1890s.
LeonWalras (865 D)
29 Oct 17 UTC
Literally nobody is NZ is upset about not being an authoritarian state of Australia.
A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
29 Oct 17 UTC
https://youtu.be/7xUYbI64QHI
MajorMitchell (1605 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Sorry ATC, still waiting for decent broadband / internet connection. I could fly to New Zealand to get that. Fond memories of Malcolm Turnbull and Tony Abbott in 2013 promising that their NBN would cost only $Aus 30 billion & be delivered by 2016... We're now at it costing between $Aus 46 to 54 billion and delivery by 2020 and "less than impressive" download & upload capabilities.
All those old Aussie jokes about New Zealand being the land of kerosene powered fridges and TVs etc aren't any where near as funny now.
"Bowl it to the Kiwi, bowl it to the Kiwi, underarm style"
Hoorah for the Ashes Tests coming soon.
MajorMitchell (1605 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
@Wusti. Well done with the historical reference. Apparently at one stage in the federation talks there was the possibility of New Zealand being part of the new nation and Western Australia not joining. Imagine how much fun our politics might have been if New Zealand had joined in the federation of the Australian States.
"A victory for petty bureaucracy over common sense. Ridiculous law and a ridiculous decision."

Ridiculous law, perhaps, although there's nothing particularly immoral about requiring MPs and senators to be citizens of Australia only.

But the decision isn't really ridiculous at all. The High Court followed the constitution. The only possible exception is Senator Canavan's case, where they decided that the evidence of his jus sanguinis Italian citizenship was conflicting and unclear (even though he was enrolled by Italy as eligible to vote in Italian elections!) and went with giving him the benefit of the doubt (very sporting of them).

It does seem somewhat contradictory, however (and therefore mildly amusing), that a naturalized citizen like Lucy Gichuhi (who lost her Kenyan citizenship upon obtaining Australian citizenship) fared better in this affair than a natural-born and lifelong-resident Australian like Barnaby Joyce.

There's also something of an amusement in a One Nation senator being removed for having foreign (albeit British) citizenship.
Smokey Gem (154 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
@mm @ leon.. if NZ was part of OZ would that mean we had the " All Black Wallabies " we would never lose another test match..

and the " Sliver Diamond Ferns"

Hell we would even give pharlap back..

ps " Russle Crow " we have returned to sender.

@MM you seem to have a passion for Nick X ...are you a crow eater ??
MajorMitchell (1605 D)
01 Nov 17 UTC
There's an irony in the High Court taking a "strictly black letter, literal, narrow interpretation" of the sections of the Constitution (43 &/or 44?) in that these are the exact types of lawyers/judges the Conservatives have been appointing to the High Court as their response to earlier "versions of the High Court bench" which were "more creative in interpretation".
The latest development is the impending resignation of the (Liberal) President of the Senate for being a dual citizen ( British as well as Australian ) so the irony continues given that this all started as an attack on two Greens Senators.
Yes I live in the Federal seat of Mayo in South Australia and campaigned actively for Ms Rebekah Sharkie & "scrutineered" for her ( observer at the counting of votes ) & was delighted when she defeated Jamie Briggs ( Liberal apparatchik given the blue ribbon seat Alexander Downer had held since it's creation by the power brokers over a local dairy farmer and long time local member of the Liberal Party ) Rebekah Sharkie was a former Liberal Party member and briefly worked in Jamie Briggs office but found it "too toxic" & left.
The State election in Queensland in December will be most interesting.. Major changes in electorates, several new electorates in Brisbane and the Southeast coastal region as part of a redistribution since the last election. The One Nation wildcard, strongest in Queensland ( there must be something strange in the beer or bananas up there...they fell in love with Pauline Hanson, then out of love with her, then they rushed to Clive Palmer, his party collapsed in turmoil & bickering, Clive's business fortunes tumbled & he's in trouble in the courts, and twenty years after their first romance with Pauline she's back with a vengeance and her party might do dangerously well in the State election )
The proposed Adani Carmichael basin Coal project is quite controversial, but has support from the ALP Premier, and probably the Liberals, but might be divisive within the Nationals as it's on the nose with the farmers and graziers.
The amounts of public money being given to Adani are astounding. For example two coastal Councils are each putting $Aus 18+ million each of ratepayers money into building an Airport near the mine site..in a completely different Shire to their own Council Shires. Yet Commercial Banks and institutional lenders in the private sector in Australia and Asia are shunning the proposed project in droves, but the Federal government is committed to "lend" Adani about $Aus one billion. Then there's the water licenses granted by the Queensland State government that have pastoralists in uproar.
I'm not anti mining by any stretch, I've worked in mining exploration helping to map copper, gold & uranium deposits, re~designed and constructed resistivity probes for coal seam mapping etc... But there's something, or several things very smelly with this Adani project in my opinion.. When private sector lenders refuse to get involved on the scale that's occurred with Adani then that should be ringing alarm bells ... they don't make business decisions on sentimental grounds, if they think there's money to be made they get involved, when they refuse to get involved, and not just one or two or three banks, but well over a dozen major Austral~Asian Banks & other major institutional lenders as well.. Then it's definitely a project to be most cautious about giving taxpayers money imho.
Plus I recently was advised that although there is a huge amount of coal in that deposit, it's not a particularly high quality grade of coal, it's low to medium (at best) grade coal. So when you look at future risks, if there is a reasonable probability of a surplus of coal supply over future demand, then it's the Coal miners with high quality coal who suffer least in that situation, and the Coal miners producing lower grades of coal who are most exposed to loss of contracts, most exposed to price cuts.
I worry that these dopey politicians in local, state and federal governments are about to "invest"? huge amounts of public monies in a project that could easily get into real trouble in ten/fifteen years time. That's aside from the obvious environmental risks and impacts. We're already mining & exporting record amounts of coal from existing mines and there is no imminent shortfall in production capacity. It's a project that could easily be deferred for a decade, even two, and the Coal will still be there. The unnecessary urgency by Politicians to push it through is another alarm bell in my opinion. Makes you wonder how much "grease" has been applied behind the scenes.
MajorMitchell (1605 D)
01 Nov 17 UTC
Oops, got sidetracked. It's fun watching government Ministers explain why an audit of all MPs isn't necessary. Like Matthias Cormann dodging about with a line that only the High Court could possibly determine these things...and resolutely never mentioning the real reason an audit is "undesirable" ..one more lower house government MP out & the opposition & cross bench MPs have a majority.
When you throw a political spear at a political enemy (the Greens in this case) it's diabolical when it turns into a boomerang Mid flight and comes back and causes a severe injury. But amusing for the watching punters.


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Ogion (3817 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Yet another (kind of gross) thought experiment (GOT Spoiler)
So, when Trump gets impeached and removed...
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Randomizer (722 D)
01 Nov 17 UTC
Criminal Friends of Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/politics/manafort-3-passports/index.html

Former Trump friend Manafort has 3 different US passports under his own name and at least one under a fake name that's he's used to travel and possibly move money. The first to be indicted and a step up the ladder of Republican lies about what was happening during the election campaign.
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grahamso1 (913 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Detailed rules for a game
I am in a game and one player has either held all his units or been absent for 7 consecutive phases (!)
Is there a way to see for the game I am in what the detailed set up is?
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yavuzovic (509 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Mouse!
I stay in a dormitory and someone saw a mouse. Mice proliferates fastly. What should I do against the mouse( or mice)?
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Ogion (3817 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
A revealing thought experiment
This is one that the original author suggests no one has had a satisfactory answer to in ten years he's been posing it.
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Real life thought experiment.
WARNING MAY CONTAIN TOPICS THAT MAY BE SENSITIVE TO SOME PEOPLE>

Child Abuse commisson finishes in Australia.
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President Eden (2750 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
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Axis & Allies general discussion thread
See title. I started playing it about a month ago. It's quite fun and a very different challenge from Diplomacy. I'm still getting my head wrapped around the editions, but I believe my group plays the "Classic" version (Spring 1942 start and there are no artillery, destroyers, etc.)

A friend and I are also working on a "present-day" version.
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kestasjk (99 DMod(P))
29 Sep 17 UTC
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webDip phpBB3 forum
Could someone do me a favor and see if /contrib/phpBB3/ is working for them? (i.e. are you logged in and able to post messages?)
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
30 Oct 17 UTC
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When players die
if you think about it any of us could die tomorrow and the site would never know. The games would go on and nothing would change. In a month people may say “I ausverkauft seen so and so around.” But then nothing.
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Yoyoyozo (95 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
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When players dye
if you think about it any of us could dye (our hair) tomorrow and the site would never know. The games would go on and nothing would change. In a month people may say “I ausverkauft if so and so has naturally colored hair.” But then nothing.
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brainbomb (295 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
Turkey in a Gravy boat
So given Turkey looks juicy but its dry, I think a solution could be to just dip the turkey in a gravy boat. in a GB, I think dryness is minimized. I want it to be moist.
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Stressedlines (1559 D)
28 Oct 17 UTC
how many Veterans
i dont care which country Just where, when, rank how long
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Ismail (100 D)
31 Oct 17 UTC
A geopolitical forum game set in 2009
There's a forum game that will start sometime this month called "Balance of Power 2009." You can find it here: http://eregime.org/index.php?act=idx

Some users on eRegime also play on webDiplomacy, which is why I mention this.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Oct 17 UTC
Scythe
I finally got around to playing Scythe. It's without a doubt the best modern board game I've ever played. I highly recommend people check it out.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/169786/scythe
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Ogion (3817 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Another thought experiment
Since the last one pretty much exposed a mound of hypocrisy it's time for another one
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SkiingCougar (1033 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Turkey in a Gunboat
So given Turkey looked like it was the least fun to play especially in a GB, I decided to look trough past games where turkey won. What I noticed was many of those wins happened when either Russia or Austria CD'd the first turn. If Russia cd'd they'd move to Armenia vv
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leon1122 (190 D)
29 Oct 17 UTC
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What I learned in my first month and a half at college
-Karl Marx is god, and anything he says is scripture.
-"Dialogue is violence."
-It's "unfortunate" that there are so many Christians
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
15 Sep 17 UTC
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FOUR LETTER WORD GAME
Rules in first post
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Enriador (100 D)
26 Oct 17 UTC
Mini-Tourney - Fast Game until Fall 1907!
Greetings!

With the mods' blessing, I would like to present "Empire's End" - a game following the spirit of the recent World Diplomacy Championship, as well as many other tournaments around the world.
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HBbuc (103 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Join New Game
Join Now!!
gameID=209168
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