1 person is lynched by a young tenneager, and now it is more likely? If you want to use that as the criteria, then you are more likely to get blow-torched as a white person, even if there was only ONE horrific case.

For the record, Ora, I don't live in Zimbabwe but I do have relations in South Africa.

They face serious risks of being murdered for the colour of their skin.

Black people in America are slightly more likely to be shot by police when committing crimes.

The two situations are utterly incomparable.

ND: "Lynching was a terrible thing back in 1870-1930s but it isn't Jim Crow anymore people. It's 2017."

EXACTLY. Why is this happening NOW? Because a few radical racist terrorists (teens no less!) lynched a neighborhood kid.

What could be more fear-inducing?? That's the entire point.

If you don't believe hate crimes are on the rise since Trump was elected, take a look.

It's a real phenomenon. The sooner conservatives get on board with the real program rather than issuing bland statements like "I'll get on board later after more people die" (to paraphrase Stressedlines), the sooner this shit will stop.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/hate_in_america_a_list_of_racism_bigotry_and_abuse_since_the_election.html

I mean, seriously. Let's wait until this is an epidemic, then lets worry about curing the problem. That's what leads to genocides.

@JK

you economic freedom score is based off of a series of factors from property rights to individual freedom. the WSJ and heritage foundation collaborate to provide their measurements, all of which are made public and are widely accepted by economists globally

http://www.heritage.org/index/about

i mean you couldn't have done like 5 seconds of research...?

and yes hate crimes have spiked, but mostly in the number of REPORTED hate crimes, not actual arrests. given that we've also had a rise in the number of arrests with hate crime hoaxes, i'm not confident about what % of hate crimes increased in 2016.

i'll admit i believe it's gone up (media coverage on it has definitely spiked) but so have verified hoaxes... substantially.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445495/bogus-hate-crimes-trump-conservatives-blamed-clueless-leftists

as for the reporting on it, many journalists, notably Sarah Harvard, have been called out for running entirely unverified stories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5fg1OfH018

there's another video in the description of that one that goes further, and Matt and the woman have an interview, but journalistic integrity verifying stories is very low.

and since the election, hate crimes have gone down.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/01/05/law-center-hate-crime-activity-has-declined-since-election/96195520/

meant to post that in there sorry

from wikipedia:
"Stefan Karlsson of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, challenged the usefulness of the index due to the fuzziness of many of the categories used to determine freedom.[28]"

Yeah, the Index of Economic Freedom is clearly baloney cocked up by Heritage. Conservative/libertarian shills.

facts won't persuade people like Jeff. All they want to hear is rawr, rawr, rawr, trump is bad

You meant to write 'alternative facts', correct?

If the Mises Institute rejects it, then it's clearly fabricated--amiright libertarians?

At any rate, it's still baloney. The composite score for the index is inherently biased in favor of the attributes compared against because they are part and parcel of the composite index. Duh!

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

I'm not arguing against the premise necessarily, but against the use of the Index to prove the point.

Especially because Heritage and the WSJ have economic worldview axes to grind.

There is an immense about of half-truths in this thread. But @orathaic and Croakanddagger, there was an actual genocide in Zimbabwe under Mugabe. But, here is the fun part, the people being killed were the Ndebele. Weirdly enough, the Ndebele are a Bantu nation/ethic group, and they would not be considered white by any definition. Do people with white skin have it rough in Zimbabwe, yeah? But they were not on the receiving end of the actual genocide.

Also, if you want to talk about real genocides that happened in southern Africa may I suggest the Herero in Namibia.

Make it a great day.

ps. As someone who has spent some time in Zimbabwe, I recommend Victoria Falls. It is a sight.

the only alternative facts are the ones spun by mainstream liberal media like CNN.

or, perhaps, the President? who spits out easily demonstrable lies almost every day?

lies according to who exactly? CNN? NYT? Washington Post (lol)?

What are the easily demonstrable lies?

One of my favorites: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385

That's his opinion. It is true that Global Warming is a hoax to redistribute money and manufacturing from the US to third world and developing countries. That's fact.

It's really sad that so many people believe in a demonstrable hoax that just seeks to weaken the US economy. I feel sorry for people that buy into it. You are just hurting yourself.

Lol

So do you all think that in twenty or thirty years after nothing has happened will you all be saying OH Global Warming/cooling/climate change/flavor of the month/whatever is so bad! Or do you think you will all have recognized that it is a hoax?

Do you truly believe climate change is a hoax? That 99% of climate scientists just got on board with a global conspiracy with the end goal of moving US manufacturing to developing countries? Definitely couldn't be generic capitalism with multinationals moving their manufacturing to where there is an abundance of cheap labor.

And power. Don't forget cheap power. Because of the extortionate green taxes on unclean energy like coal. That has an impact on how cheap manufacturing is - much more than labour, in fact, in an increasingly automated manufacturing industry.

Unless we take some pretty drastic steps to reduce emissions then yes, I think we will see some significant changes. However I clearly shouldn't trust the projections of the world's best and brightest scientists, cause it's all a hoax.

it's absolutely a hoax. Who cares if 99% of scientists agree. Guess, what Galileo and Newton had theories that upended science. Science isn't 'liberal group think'. It's based on innovation and new ways of thinking. Do you think the Earth is hotter right now than when the dinosaurs were around or the earth is colder then when the entire planet was covered in glaciers (snowball earth)? It's fairly obvious based on Earth's irregular orbit that the planet goes through periods of natural change. It has nothing to do with humanity.

Was Galileo supposed to just walk away and say, "oh I guess 99% of scientists agree about physics and astronomy so I guess my theories are wrong!"

Have you read the East Anglia University climate research unit controversy emails? Have you seen how many of these "99%" scientists fund their numbers to get more grant money for their programs?

Do you know that the Soviet Union and Communist China DID have a hand to play with the development of the hoax of environmental science/global warming as a way to weaken industrial capitalist countries in the 1970s as a way to undermine the industrial west because the west was drastically out performing the Soviet Union during the 1970s?

It's just a scam and hoax man. Do some research. I've done mine.

*fudge their numbers* -correction-

Geez we are fcking doomed with you lot running the show.

I hope this has been educational for you. Now, please do us all a favor and do some research and stop watching reruns of silly Al Gore's latest fiction movie.