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Jamiet99uk (60 D)
27 Jul 17 UTC
Trump's bizarre speech at Boy Scouts' jamboree
What do you all make of this? Apparently he doesn't drink or I'd suggest he was drunk. Definitely un-presidential.
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michael_b (192 D)
27 Jul 17 UTC
Private WWI Reanactment
please read desc
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Kotoi (100 D)
27 Jul 17 UTC
Need 1 more
Game: local wangs
Pw: wangitup
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GrandMasterDM (140 D)
27 Jul 17 UTC
Quick Question About Rules That I Can't Seem to Find
Hi all—the title says it all. Just wanted to consult somebody with more knowledge about the rules (message written as a reply below):
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Smokey Gem (168 D)
26 Jul 17 UTC
When Life is So Short why do we get Bored...??
I am bored senseless , unmotivated , and have little to no energy.

I am not monitored at work and can do as I please..which is very little.
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Hannibal76 (288 D (B))
29 Jul 17 UTC
Hello and welcome
Haven't played a game in a while. Join so we can have some fun :)
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MajorMitchell (986 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
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Call the Minneapolis Police for help and get shot dead by them
What is going on with Police in the USA ?
MajorMitchell (986 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
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An Australian woman killed by Police in Minneapolis after she called them for assistance. Why were their cameras turned off, against their own Police Dept policy ?
StevenC. (740 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
There's not much information on this right now, unfortunately.
Hauta (1598 D (S))
17 Jul 17 UTC
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who cares? As a one-off story, doesn't seem to warrant discussion. Maybe if we see a spate of attacks against tourists from western countries it'll turn into something.
Jamiet99uk (60 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
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This is part of a spate of incidents, Hauta. A spate of innocent civilians being murdered by police officers who then avoid prosecution because.. reasons.
bo_sox48 (4321 D Mod (G))
17 Jul 17 UTC
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Because our laws make it extremely difficult to convict them. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is a difficult standard to pin against a police officer.
Hauta (1598 D (S))
17 Jul 17 UTC
@Jamiet, then let's get to it, because it's not really about 1 blonde Australian tourist getting killed by the police; it's about Blacks getting killed.
Hauta (1598 D (S))
17 Jul 17 UTC
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Looks like 963 police shooting in 2016. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/

Compare that with causes of death by gun violence -- 33,000. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-deaths/

Is the crappy treatment Blacks get by cops a problem? Yes.
Do we have much bigger problems that we should be addressing? Yes.
Zach0805 (75 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
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@Hauta Just saying if everyone had a gun and had adequate safety training for said gun we would be a lot safer
brainbomb (412 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
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Everyone having a gun would actually make police have to work even harder. Inevitably the liability of such a scwnario would be horrendous. Cops would be shooting first far more often regardless of training.
Jamiet99uk (60 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
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@Zach: Good idea! If this Australian woman had been armed, she could have killed the cop before he shot her! What a good idea.
junko (100 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
since this is a Australian tourist, has Australia made a comment on this?
Ogion (5038 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
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She wasn't a tourist, but a resident, and about to get married.

Well, by the "need to address bigger problems" the only issue is climate change. That doesn't mean we can't walk and chew gum and deal with the savagery and violence of the police. When cops kill more people per capita than gangs do, you know you have a problem
Hauta (1598 D (S))
17 Jul 17 UTC
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We CAN'T walk and chew gum. You of all people have argued about willful stupidity. America cannot focus on more than one thing at a time -- usually cool cat videos.
Ogion (5038 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
Well, yes, you have a point there.
Randomizer (151 D)
17 Jul 17 UTC
I'm surprised they shot her since she was white. Two heavily armed white guys in bullet proof vests walked into a police station and only got talked to.

Their body cameras were off so there is no evidence against the police officers unless they shot her in the back. They probably get off with a slap on the wrist for not having their cameras turned on.
bo_sox48 (4321 D Mod (G))
17 Jul 17 UTC
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Lots of white people get shot by cops. Sometimes it's different, and I imagine far fewer white people get irreparably profiled beforehand, but squashing the fact that white people get targeted by police violence too is a path to sensationalizing the problem in the wrong way.
Hauta (1598 D (S))
17 Jul 17 UTC
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http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/07/17/mpd-officer-shot-woman-identified/

Oh shit, the cop's name was Mohamed Noor, Minneapolis' first Somali-American officer.
Killing your own black folks doesn't rate. It's passé
Killing a pretty white Aussie woman on the other hand.... I think Mr Noor should update his resume. Or plan for some time in the big house.
Randomizer (151 D)
18 Jul 17 UTC
The two officers in this shooting are also involved in other cases under investigation.
Randomizer (151 D)
19 Jul 17 UTC
Shoot first, ask questions later. So much for police training.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/us/minneapolis-woman-killed-by-police/index.html
Smokey Gem (168 D)
19 Jul 17 UTC
@Zach..."Just saying if everyone had a gun and had adequate safety training for said gun we would be a lot safer " ....if no one had guns we would be safer still.

Just because you have a gun dosn't make you safer in much the same way as having a mobile phone so you can call for help dosn't make you any safer.

THE VAST majority of people do not want to shoot anyone even in self defence..

Look at Statistics for war zones and how many people shot to miss....
leon1122 (170 D)
19 Jul 17 UTC
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"Oh shit, the cop's name was Mohamed Noor, Minneapolis' first Somali-American officer."

Somehow I'm not surprised. This is what happens when a people stops caring about its own survival and instead prioritizes the wellbeing of invaders of a foreign culture.
JamesYanik (548 D)
19 Jul 17 UTC
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@leon

really? THAT'S the lesson you're getting out of this? christ shit like that makes me want to turn socialist just out of spite.
leon1122 (170 D)
19 Jul 17 UTC
Go ahead if the truth offends you so much.
Hauta (1598 D (S))
19 Jul 17 UTC
@leon, I was almost going to bite. good job.
Smokey Gem (168 D)
21 Jul 17 UTC
@ leon...would that be the foreign australian being shot by a foreign policeman. ?

using american law to hide behind ..

So the American Peoples stops caring about its own survival ( OHHHH Hence Trump I see now )

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN

Sgt242 (602 D)
21 Jul 17 UTC
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Jamiet99 seems to have a hatred of cops. Maybe hatred is too strong of word. Just like in any group of people, there are good cops and bad cops. Generalizing all cops is just as wrong as racism in any form. How about we judge each man or woman on their own merit. If these cops have done wrong then hold them accountable for their actions.
DammmmDaniel (99 D)
21 Jul 17 UTC
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The funniest thing ever, is the fact that making guns illegal doesn't actually stop criminals from getting their hands on said guns..... The only thing it does is take guns away from law abiding citizens that might be able to actually use them in self defense. Gun accidents (and incidents) happen. It will continue to happen. But making these guns illegal won't stop criminals from getting their hands on these weapons
Hauta (1598 D (S))
21 Jul 17 UTC
By the same reasoning, does banning abortions stop them from occurring?
Ogion (5038 D)
21 Jul 17 UTC
Actually, sgt242, to date there are two kinds of cops: bad cops and the cops who cover for the bad cops. What's really remarkable here is that the police chief is suggesting this shooting was wrong. To my knowledge this is the first time any police official has suggested anything other than "the guy had it coming"

The "few bad apples" is convenient if you want to distract from the fact that this is a systemic issue with American policing.

Actually, banning guns reduces the death rate by a huge factor, simply because most shootings are by "responsible gun owners" right until they go unhinged in traffic or at a bar. And that's setting aside the suicides.

Statistics demonstrate pretty conclusively that owning a gun makes you substantially less safe.
Sgt242 (602 D)
21 Jul 17 UTC
I have an open mind. Can you provide some statistics that make it substantially less safe to own a gun.
Ogion (5038 D)
21 Jul 17 UTC
Here's a few to get started. This is one finding that's been found over and over and over again over decades using a wide variety of approaches.

https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13497/us-health-in-international-perspective-shorter-lives-poorer-health

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gun-suicide-idUSBREA0J1G920140120

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/160/10/929/140858/Guns-in-the-Home-and-Risk-of-a-Violent-Death-in
Sgt242 (602 D)
21 Jul 17 UTC
Ogion, I think you are making progress. Instead of putting all cops in one all bad category, you have at least came up with two equally bad categories. I t is easy to just generalize people putting them in classes or categories. It takes work to judge each person on their own merit. Liberals don't like work.
Ogion (5038 D)
21 Jul 17 UTC
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Ironic as hell that you'd lecture about putting people in categories... and then immediately put people in categories. In fact, liberals work a hell of a lot harder at this than conservatives who like to pretend all muslims are terrorists and all black people are free loaders.

No one ever made things better by ignoring systemic problems. It's a hell of a lot more work to push for changes and improvements than to sit around and not be bothered to even think about better ways of doing things
Randomizer (151 D)
21 Jul 17 UTC
We're seeing almost no support for the officers from their police union and Blue Lives Matter a police protest group formed against Black Lives Matter. This is a rare instance where the police aren't being supported by their groups and police chief as a knee jerk reaction.
MajorMitchell (986 D)
22 Jul 17 UTC
I agree with Ogion's comments that strict & effective gun controls reduce gun deaths and gun caused injuries. There's evidence to support this, and it's antithesis, that lack of strict & effective gun controls is linked to higher rates of gun caused deaths and injuries.
Australia is a good example of effective gun control laws working, and the Conservative Howard Federal government's gun law reforms in the 1990's have led to a significant reduction in gun related deaths and injuries.. the twenty odd years since those reforms is the sort of time frame needed for statistical analysis to give a clear understanding of the effect of those gun law reforms, and it's clearly working.
Another damning proof from the USA about the tragic consequences of their "gun laws" is the number of children shot by a sibling using ( "playing with" ) Mum or Dad's gun.
With regards to the tragic shooting in Minnesota, I hope there is a proper investigation and then if appropriate, prosecutions. Any accused persons deserve a fair trial.
Smokey Gem (168 D)
25 Jul 17 UTC
Spot on MM....

May the Deaths at Port Arthur continue to be a rallying point for positive fundamental change..
Randomizer (151 D)
25 Jul 17 UTC
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/24/us/twin-cities-police-easily-startled-signs-trnd/index.html

Warning signs being posted to remind citizens to be careful around their police force.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/24/europe/switzerland-chainsaw/index.html

At least we aren't Switzerland where you can get attacked with a chainsaw. Although it's a lot harder to chop up large numbers of victims at once since most people will run away quickly from him.

Randomizer (151 D)
27 Jul 17 UTC
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/us/mississippi-wrong-house-trnd/index.html

It's not even safe to go to your home's front door when police can shoot through your closed door before finding out it's the wrong house. Then they lie about what happened so it contradicts the physical evidence.
Bladerunners (1151 D)
27 Jul 17 UTC
problem with many (most) american cities and towns - is that they no longer have "police" forces ... but "paramilitary police forces". their officers think they are soldiers and not police officers
Bladerunners (1151 D)
27 Jul 17 UTC
@randomizer - a violent attack in switzerland is rare. a violent / stupidic event (offensive or defensive) happens in the USA every few minutes.
MajorMitchell (986 D)
29 Jul 17 UTC
Thanks Smokey Gem. The one thing that I think we need to do in Australia to further improve community safety in Australia is have much tougher penalties for people caught in possession of an illegal / unregistered gun. As far as I'm concerned, I think any person caught with an illegal firearm should, unless there are exceptional circumstances, be imprisoned. Suspended sentences, good behaviour bonds and fines just do not meet my expectations. If we have stringent controls on legitimate gun owners, which we do...then we have to have really tough penalties on illegal gun possession. And I think there should be extra tough imprisonment sentences if the person caught with the illegal firearm has a criminal record that has any prior conviction for any crime of violence, including domestic violence... or if they can be shown to be an "associate or member" of a criminal gang
MajorMitchell (986 D)
29 Jul 17 UTC
The only situation where there should be leniency with illegal / unregistered firearms, is where the person voluntarily goes to the Police and surrenders a firearm..which we do have with periodic "gun amnesties".


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Rapunzeland (100 D)
25 Jul 17 UTC
Build and retreat turns
Should 100% be put together they involve next no strategy and are quite frankly boring. I think the reason that this isn't the case as it could be confusing how ever a bit of graphic design would fix that e.g BUILD in bold and underneath that are build options and under that RETREAT in bold and under that are your retreat options

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michael_b (192 D)
19 Jul 17 UTC
Fall America Map anybody?
See Reply Please
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Quothcraft (100 D)
26 Jul 17 UTC
Delayed unit build
I delayed the construction of an army, but I havent seen any opportunity to create it. Help?
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JamesYanik (548 D)
27 Jul 17 UTC
Joey Altidore Hired by Elon Musk
How could he refuse after this rocket?

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/890401632835567616
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Badspler (155 D)
26 Jul 17 UTC
Question on this movement
I am pretty new to the game. This just occurred in a game I am playing. I can't understand why Vienna couldn't move to Galicia with 2 support.

Here is an image:
http://imgur.com/a/xHN3i
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BlueWombat (100 D)
25 Jul 17 UTC
Posting links to pictures of messages?
Is that allowed in the rules? Ie. in an anonymous game, Italy is betrayed by Russia, so posts a link to an image posting site which shows the chat between the two? It seems like it shouldn't be but I can't see where it's prohibited.
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Claesar (112 D Mod)
25 Jul 17 UTC
Ghost rating question
I read the explanation on the GR website. I get that eliminating players in WTA improves the GR gain.
Do I understand correctly that an effort was made to make the GR score in SoS games based on centre count, but not implemented ultimately? So one should still kill off small powers (at the expense of centres elsewhere) to improve GR gains?
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Dubs Step (100 D)
25 Jul 17 UTC
Paused game issues.
Does anyone know how to contact mods to help unpause games? I have one that's been on pause all month (game id: 199383) and one still on pause since 2014 when I was in high school (game id: 128401). Any way to terminate/resume/draw these games?
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Poolio10 (95 D)
24 Jul 17 UTC
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The voting buttons
I'm not entirely the "cancel" button does. It seems to have no propose to me. But one button I do recommend is a "kick" button for inactive players as they severely slow the game down. Of course, be a minimum time or number of turns before it's an option.
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alexintour (764 D (S))
19 Jul 17 UTC
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Russian hackers are so Russian.
What do you think? Are they really out there hacking even your toaster?
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Crazy Anglican (261 D)
30 Dec 16 UTC
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Word association thread
It has been a while since we did one. Post the first single word that comes to mind when you read the last post in the thread.
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michael_b (192 D)
25 Jul 17 UTC
Post nearly full game?
Hello,

1 more player is required for this game. Can't wait to get started.
gameID=202983#
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michael_b (192 D)
25 Jul 17 UTC
SumScoring Modern map with 320 Pool Anon
RR 50%!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=203204
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iimusashii (100 D)
24 Jul 17 UTC
Army Por convoy
Anyone know why my A in Portugal cannot convoy to Mar even though I have a fleet in Spain SC?
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
18 Jul 17 UTC
Dr Who and Gender recognition
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/07/17/doctor-who-we-regret-to-inform-you-that-you-are-still-legally-a-man/
I know this is mostly meant to be fun (and a serious look at gender recognition laws in the uk) but i make me question one thing.

Is the spousal veto a necessary thing? From a purely contractual perspective. Can't you go 'well if your spouse isn't happy with your new gender, then they will have to apply for divorce.' ??? Thoughts?
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cspieker (7637 D)
12 Jul 17 UTC
What to do as Italy in gunboat?
option A: plow into Austria
option B: ally with Austria and go after Turkey.
option C: attack France.
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brainbomb (412 D)
23 Jul 17 UTC
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Breaking the seal
Forum posts: 20249. I have officially left a mark on this place. Thanks all for laughing along all these years
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captainmeme (484 D Mod)
21 Jul 17 UTC
Diplomacy Legacy
We've seen Risk Legacy, Pandemic Legacy... Would Diplomacy Legacy work? What would you put in it?
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Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
19 Jul 17 UTC
Time to restore and rejuvenate McHammer
McHammer has no control of his finances. He confided to Slypups that his bill payments would be so far in the future that they'd never happen, but then CAPT Brad go wind of this and got pissed. Come on hammer/guy -- you got 1 music video! Make it happen!
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Smokey Gem (168 D)
10 Jul 17 UTC
Fun Game Using Google translator.
Inviting people to play a game where you type your press into google translator of the country your using see below for example.
PASSWORD is Translation
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cdooc (0 D X)
23 Jul 17 UTC
Buy Real Quality fake passports,driver's licenses,visas,ID cards, Certificates
Buy Real Quality passports of all countries,driver's licenses,visas,ID cards, Certificates (cdocproduction@gmail.com)
We are the best producers of quality documents
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
11 Jul 17 UTC
DoJ charges against one 'Reality Winner'
https://standwithreality.org/new-support-group-defense-fund/
This is the only example i can think of where the US state is trying to abridge freedom of speech and of the press.
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Hauta (1598 D (S))
20 Jul 17 UTC
Exxon fined for violating Russia sanctions
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-exxon-mobil-usa-ukraine-idUSKBN1A51UH

The Department of the Treasury just fined Exxon $2 million (that's right, million with an "M") for violating sanctions related to Russia's involvement in Ukraine. Why should Russia care about lifting sanctions if toothless enforcement is the alternative?
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