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VashtaNeurotic (949 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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Mafia XXX: Clown Fiesta Game Thread
See inside for more instructions.
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Jamiet99uk (75 D (B))
08:15 PM UTC
Trump's bizarre speech at Boy Scouts' jamboree
What do you all make of this? Apparently he doesn't drink or I'd suggest he was drunk. Definitely un-presidential.
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michael_b (656 D)
Thu 12 PM UTC
Private WWI Reanactment
please read desc
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DemonOverlord (452 D)
27 Jan 17 UTC
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Daily Trump News Thread
Instead of having 17 threads each time he does something new, let's have this one so anyone that doesn't want to deal with Trump can just mute it! (ps is it possible to self mute?)
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captainmeme (505 D Mod)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
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Petition to Introduce Chaos
Attempt #2. Let's get Chaos available to play on this site!
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brainbomb (163 D)
Wed 06 PM UTC
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Trump bans Transgendered people from.Military Service
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/trump-military-transgender/index.html
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Rapunzeland (100 D)
Tue 01 PM UTC
Build and retreat turns
Should 100% be put together they involve next no strategy and are quite frankly boring. I think the reason that this isn't the case as it could be confusing how ever a bit of graphic design would fix that e.g BUILD in bold and underneath that are build options and under that RETREAT in bold and under that are your retreat options

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Smokey Gem (97 D)
Wed 07 AM UTC
When Life is So Short why do we get Bored...??
I am bored senseless , unmotivated , and have little to no energy.

I am not monitored at work and can do as I please..which is very little.
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GrandMasterDM (90 D)
Thu 02 PM UTC
Quick Question About Rules That I Can't Seem to Find
Hi all—the title says it all. Just wanted to consult somebody with more knowledge about the rules (message written as a reply below):
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captainmeme (505 D Mod)
29 Dec 16 UTC
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The Inaugural 1v1 Showdown!
With the addition of new variants comes a new official Tournament! Only one can triumph - and that could be you!
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DemonOverlord (452 D)
Sun 23 Jul UTC
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Private game replacement rules
I've been told by a deadbeat admin that is losing a private game that he has the ability to pick any replacement he wants and he asked someone who I'd rather slit my wrists than play with. There's a reason I play passworded games and I think there should be a rule where you need the consent of people in your private game before picking a replacement.
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michael_b (656 D)
Wed 19 Jul UTC
Fall America Map anybody?
See Reply Please
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Quothcraft (90 D)
Wed 10 PM UTC
Delayed unit build
I delayed the construction of an army, but I havent seen any opportunity to create it. Help?
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MajorMitchell (984 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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Call the Minneapolis Police for help and get shot dead by them
What is going on with Police in the USA ?
MajorMitchell (984 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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An Australian woman killed by Police in Minneapolis after she called them for assistance. Why were their cameras turned off, against their own Police Dept policy ?
StevenC. (783 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
There's not much information on this right now, unfortunately.
Hauta (1592 D (S))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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who cares? As a one-off story, doesn't seem to warrant discussion. Maybe if we see a spate of attacks against tourists from western countries it'll turn into something.
Jamiet99uk (75 D (B))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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This is part of a spate of incidents, Hauta. A spate of innocent civilians being murdered by police officers who then avoid prosecution because.. reasons.
bo_sox48 (4278 D Mod (G))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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Because our laws make it extremely difficult to convict them. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is a difficult standard to pin against a police officer.
Hauta (1592 D (S))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
@Jamiet, then let's get to it, because it's not really about 1 blonde Australian tourist getting killed by the police; it's about Blacks getting killed.
Hauta (1592 D (S))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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Looks like 963 police shooting in 2016. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/

Compare that with causes of death by gun violence -- 33,000. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-deaths/

Is the crappy treatment Blacks get by cops a problem? Yes.
Do we have much bigger problems that we should be addressing? Yes.
Zach0805 (71 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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@Hauta Just saying if everyone had a gun and had adequate safety training for said gun we would be a lot safer
brainbomb (163 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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Everyone having a gun would actually make police have to work even harder. Inevitably the liability of such a scwnario would be horrendous. Cops would be shooting first far more often regardless of training.
Jamiet99uk (75 D (B))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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@Zach: Good idea! If this Australian woman had been armed, she could have killed the cop before he shot her! What a good idea.
junko (100 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
since this is a Australian tourist, has Australia made a comment on this?
Ogion (3299 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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She wasn't a tourist, but a resident, and about to get married.

Well, by the "need to address bigger problems" the only issue is climate change. That doesn't mean we can't walk and chew gum and deal with the savagery and violence of the police. When cops kill more people per capita than gangs do, you know you have a problem
Hauta (1592 D (S))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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We CAN'T walk and chew gum. You of all people have argued about willful stupidity. America cannot focus on more than one thing at a time -- usually cool cat videos.
Ogion (3299 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
Well, yes, you have a point there.
Randomizer (123 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
I'm surprised they shot her since she was white. Two heavily armed white guys in bullet proof vests walked into a police station and only got talked to.

Their body cameras were off so there is no evidence against the police officers unless they shot her in the back. They probably get off with a slap on the wrist for not having their cameras turned on.
bo_sox48 (4278 D Mod (G))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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Lots of white people get shot by cops. Sometimes it's different, and I imagine far fewer white people get irreparably profiled beforehand, but squashing the fact that white people get targeted by police violence too is a path to sensationalizing the problem in the wrong way.
Hauta (1592 D (S))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/07/17/mpd-officer-shot-woman-identified/

Oh shit, the cop's name was Mohamed Noor, Minneapolis' first Somali-American officer.
BrownPaperTiger (477 D)
Tue 18 Jul UTC
Killing your own black folks doesn't rate. It's passé
Killing a pretty white Aussie woman on the other hand.... I think Mr Noor should update his resume. Or plan for some time in the big house.
Randomizer (123 D)
Tue 18 Jul UTC
The two officers in this shooting are also involved in other cases under investigation.
Randomizer (123 D)
Wed 19 Jul UTC
Shoot first, ask questions later. So much for police training.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/us/minneapolis-woman-killed-by-police/index.html
Smokey Gem (97 D)
Wed 19 Jul UTC
@Zach..."Just saying if everyone had a gun and had adequate safety training for said gun we would be a lot safer " ....if no one had guns we would be safer still.

Just because you have a gun dosn't make you safer in much the same way as having a mobile phone so you can call for help dosn't make you any safer.

THE VAST majority of people do not want to shoot anyone even in self defence..

Look at Statistics for war zones and how many people shot to miss....
leon1122 (178 D)
Wed 19 Jul UTC
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"Oh shit, the cop's name was Mohamed Noor, Minneapolis' first Somali-American officer."

Somehow I'm not surprised. This is what happens when a people stops caring about its own survival and instead prioritizes the wellbeing of invaders of a foreign culture.
JamesYanik (309 D)
Wed 19 Jul UTC
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@leon

really? THAT'S the lesson you're getting out of this? christ shit like that makes me want to turn socialist just out of spite.
leon1122 (178 D)
Wed 19 Jul UTC
Go ahead if the truth offends you so much.
Hauta (1592 D (S))
Wed 19 Jul UTC
@leon, I was almost going to bite. good job.
Smokey Gem (97 D)
Fri 21 Jul UTC
@ leon...would that be the foreign australian being shot by a foreign policeman. ?

using american law to hide behind ..

So the American Peoples stops caring about its own survival ( OHHHH Hence Trump I see now )

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN

Sgt242 (434 D)
Fri 21 Jul UTC
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Jamiet99 seems to have a hatred of cops. Maybe hatred is too strong of word. Just like in any group of people, there are good cops and bad cops. Generalizing all cops is just as wrong as racism in any form. How about we judge each man or woman on their own merit. If these cops have done wrong then hold them accountable for their actions.
DammmmDaniel (99 D)
Fri 21 Jul UTC
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The funniest thing ever, is the fact that making guns illegal doesn't actually stop criminals from getting their hands on said guns..... The only thing it does is take guns away from law abiding citizens that might be able to actually use them in self defense. Gun accidents (and incidents) happen. It will continue to happen. But making these guns illegal won't stop criminals from getting their hands on these weapons
Hauta (1592 D (S))
Fri 21 Jul UTC
By the same reasoning, does banning abortions stop them from occurring?
Ogion (3299 D)
Fri 21 Jul UTC
Actually, sgt242, to date there are two kinds of cops: bad cops and the cops who cover for the bad cops. What's really remarkable here is that the police chief is suggesting this shooting was wrong. To my knowledge this is the first time any police official has suggested anything other than "the guy had it coming"

The "few bad apples" is convenient if you want to distract from the fact that this is a systemic issue with American policing.

Actually, banning guns reduces the death rate by a huge factor, simply because most shootings are by "responsible gun owners" right until they go unhinged in traffic or at a bar. And that's setting aside the suicides.

Statistics demonstrate pretty conclusively that owning a gun makes you substantially less safe.
Sgt242 (434 D)
Fri 21 Jul UTC
I have an open mind. Can you provide some statistics that make it substantially less safe to own a gun.
Ogion (3299 D)
Fri 21 Jul UTC
Here's a few to get started. This is one finding that's been found over and over and over again over decades using a wide variety of approaches.

https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13497/us-health-in-international-perspective-shorter-lives-poorer-health

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gun-suicide-idUSBREA0J1G920140120

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/160/10/929/140858/Guns-in-the-Home-and-Risk-of-a-Violent-Death-in
Sgt242 (434 D)
Fri 21 Jul UTC
Ogion, I think you are making progress. Instead of putting all cops in one all bad category, you have at least came up with two equally bad categories. I t is easy to just generalize people putting them in classes or categories. It takes work to judge each person on their own merit. Liberals don't like work.
Ogion (3299 D)
Fri 21 Jul UTC
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Ironic as hell that you'd lecture about putting people in categories... and then immediately put people in categories. In fact, liberals work a hell of a lot harder at this than conservatives who like to pretend all muslims are terrorists and all black people are free loaders.

No one ever made things better by ignoring systemic problems. It's a hell of a lot more work to push for changes and improvements than to sit around and not be bothered to even think about better ways of doing things
Randomizer (123 D)
Fri 21 Jul UTC
We're seeing almost no support for the officers from their police union and Blue Lives Matter a police protest group formed against Black Lives Matter. This is a rare instance where the police aren't being supported by their groups and police chief as a knee jerk reaction.
MajorMitchell (984 D)
Sat 22 Jul UTC
I agree with Ogion's comments that strict & effective gun controls reduce gun deaths and gun caused injuries. There's evidence to support this, and it's antithesis, that lack of strict & effective gun controls is linked to higher rates of gun caused deaths and injuries.
Australia is a good example of effective gun control laws working, and the Conservative Howard Federal government's gun law reforms in the 1990's have led to a significant reduction in gun related deaths and injuries.. the twenty odd years since those reforms is the sort of time frame needed for statistical analysis to give a clear understanding of the effect of those gun law reforms, and it's clearly working.
Another damning proof from the USA about the tragic consequences of their "gun laws" is the number of children shot by a sibling using ( "playing with" ) Mum or Dad's gun.
With regards to the tragic shooting in Minnesota, I hope there is a proper investigation and then if appropriate, prosecutions. Any accused persons deserve a fair trial.
Smokey Gem (97 D)
Tue 01 AM UTC
Spot on MM....

May the Deaths at Port Arthur continue to be a rallying point for positive fundamental change..
Randomizer (123 D)
Tue 01 AM UTC
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/24/us/twin-cities-police-easily-startled-signs-trnd/index.html

Warning signs being posted to remind citizens to be careful around their police force.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/24/europe/switzerland-chainsaw/index.html

At least we aren't Switzerland where you can get attacked with a chainsaw. Although it's a lot harder to chop up large numbers of victims at once since most people will run away quickly from him.

Randomizer (123 D)
Thu 04 AM UTC
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/us/mississippi-wrong-house-trnd/index.html

It's not even safe to go to your home's front door when police can shoot through your closed door before finding out it's the wrong house. Then they lie about what happened so it contradicts the physical evidence.
Bladerunners (934 D)
Thu 04 AM UTC
problem with many (most) american cities and towns - is that they no longer have "police" forces ... but "paramilitary police forces". their officers think they are soldiers and not police officers
Bladerunners (934 D)
Thu 04 AM UTC
@randomizer - a violent attack in switzerland is rare. a violent / stupidic event (offensive or defensive) happens in the USA every few minutes.


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JamesYanik (309 D)
Thu 02 AM UTC
Joey Altidore Hired by Elon Musk
How could he refuse after this rocket?

https://twitter.com/MLS/status/890401632835567616
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Kotoi (85 D)
Thu 01 AM UTC
Need 1 more
Game: local wangs
Pw: wangitup
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Badspler (60 D)
Wed 10 AM UTC
Question on this movement
I am pretty new to the game. This just occurred in a game I am playing. I can't understand why Vienna couldn't move to Galicia with 2 support.

Here is an image:
http://imgur.com/a/xHN3i
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BlueWombat (55 D)
Tue 02 AM UTC
Posting links to pictures of messages?
Is that allowed in the rules? Ie. in an anonymous game, Italy is betrayed by Russia, so posts a link to an image posting site which shows the chat between the two? It seems like it shouldn't be but I can't see where it's prohibited.
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Claesar (34 D)
Tue 06 PM UTC
Ghost rating question
I read the explanation on the GR website. I get that eliminating players in WTA improves the GR gain.
Do I understand correctly that an effort was made to make the GR score in SoS games based on centre count, but not implemented ultimately? So one should still kill off small powers (at the expense of centres elsewhere) to improve GR gains?
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fourofswords (309 D)
Tue 05 AM UTC
I can't believe I forgot this, but:
Can armies move from Denmark to Sweden and vice versa? Go ahead laugh, I know I should know.
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Dubs Step (35 D)
Tue 11 AM UTC
Paused game issues.
Does anyone know how to contact mods to help unpause games? I have one that's been on pause all month (game id: 199383) and one still on pause since 2014 when I was in high school (game id: 128401). Any way to terminate/resume/draw these games?
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Poolio10 (80 D)
Mon 24 Jul UTC
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The voting buttons
I'm not entirely the "cancel" button does. It seems to have no propose to me. But one button I do recommend is a "kick" button for inactive players as they severely slow the game down. Of course, be a minimum time or number of turns before it's an option.
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michael_b (656 D)
Tue 03 PM UTC
Sickest Convoys
Anyone have some evidence of sick convoys in real games? Mine is here:
gameID=199536 in Autumn 2014, Spring 2015 is half as cool.
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alexintour (764 D (S))
Wed 19 Jul UTC
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Russian hackers are so Russian.
What do you think? Are they really out there hacking even your toaster?
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Crazy Anglican (271 D)
30 Dec 16 UTC
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Word association thread
It has been a while since we did one. Post the first single word that comes to mind when you read the last post in the thread.
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michael_b (656 D)
Tue 12 PM UTC
Post nearly full game?
Hello,

1 more player is required for this game. Can't wait to get started.
gameID=202983#
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michael_b (656 D)
Tue 06 AM UTC
SumScoring Modern map with 320 Pool Anon
RR 50%!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=203204
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iimusashii (75 D)
Mon 05 PM UTC
Army Por convoy
Anyone know why my A in Portugal cannot convoy to Mar even though I have a fleet in Spain SC?
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
Tue 18 Jul UTC
Dr Who and Gender recognition
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/07/17/doctor-who-we-regret-to-inform-you-that-you-are-still-legally-a-man/
I know this is mostly meant to be fun (and a serious look at gender recognition laws in the uk) but i make me question one thing.

Is the spousal veto a necessary thing? From a purely contractual perspective. Can't you go 'well if your spouse isn't happy with your new gender, then they will have to apply for divorce.' ??? Thoughts?
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MrcsAurelius (3232 D (B))
Mon 17 Jul UTC
Better be feared than loved, if you cannot be both
Setting up what hopefully will be a nice classic game. Would like to keep it GR 100ish, to ensure quality and reliability.
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