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SerbijaJeBosna (0 D X)
21 Jun 17 UTC
Foreigners
Any other Non Americans here?
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bakay_ilya (100 D)
23 Jun 17 UTC
go blitz classic
hello,boys and girls,go play blitz game
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
23 Jun 17 UTC
#BLM
Black or blue?

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/white-st-louis-cop-shot-black-off-duty-officer-then-claimed-it-was-a-friendly-fire-incident/
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CptMike (3299 D)
22 Jun 17 UTC
Fair play :-)
Hello guys. I just wanted to congratulate Dagabs0 for his fairplay here agreeing to reroll after a misorder of his opponent... Fairplay.

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orathaic (1009 D (B))
21 Jun 17 UTC
Are question of morality.
Reading about anti-fa and communist resistance in Auschwitz.

Were they culpulable collavorators who didn't do enough to save the many executed? Or did they do as much as anyone could be expected to do in resisting Nazi power and surviving the camp? https://libcom.org/history/life-centurys-midnight
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Jamiet99uk (57 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
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Unsafe space
This is a thread for vile insults, vicious personal attacks, and hurtful, hurtful remarks of all kinds.
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Hauta (1598 D (S))
21 Jun 17 UTC
Who is ready to take the challenge?
I'll boycott liberal media and read only right wing shit if one of y'all agree to read only left wing media. The challenge is only for a week. Anyone accept?
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
22 Jun 17 UTC
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Feature request
Why should we have to like everything

We need a dislike button
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Ezio (663 D Mod)
21 Jun 17 UTC
'Murican Safe Space
We need a space where we can talk about Guns and Freedom without ridicule. Too many people on the forum are too judgmental about real 'Murican values.
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swordsman3003 (9866 D Mod (G))
21 Jun 17 UTC
Gunboat Solo-win plan: Germany
(A) almost always taken
(B) usually taken
(C) sometimes taken
(D) rarely taken
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Chaqa (3134 D (B))
20 Jun 17 UTC
The Safe Space Safe Space
Where you can be safe from all these bullshit threads
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BurntAlmond (100 D)
21 Jun 17 UTC
Modern Game
gameID=200857
Come join Modern SoS!
Fun all around.
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Ezio (663 D Mod)
19 Jun 17 UTC
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I propose we ban all political discussions from the forum
All political discussions on the forum always start and end with people insulting everyone on the other side.
If we never talk politics, the mods will have to find some other excuse to abuse their power.
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Volmort (90 D)
21 Jun 17 UTC
Coastal Movement
Is it possible to move from mid=atlantic see to spain and then from spain to gulf of lyon?
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
21 Jun 17 UTC
Safe space
Is it safe?
How much space is there?
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SerbijaJeBosna (0 D X)
21 Jun 17 UTC
Far Right Safe Space
Because why not, Tod dem Bolschewismus
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LeonWalras (665 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
Safe space for radical centrists
This is a thread to talk about revenue neutral taxes and universal basic income, away from the jaded eyes of the left/right false dichotomy.

Please come in and share your ideas. This thread is going to be our means-tested home.
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Mapu (372 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
Wonder Woman
Don't read or open this thread if you don't want spoilers.
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Ogion (4699 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
The Space Safety space
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20090042944.pdf

Discuss
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CdnPearson (268 D)
21 Jun 17 UTC
Country assignment
When a game starts, are countries assigned randomly to players? Is there any way to request or prioritize a country if you want to play a particular one(s)?
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BossMan227 (68 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
Tournament
Who thinks i should start a tournament?
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Ezio (663 D Mod)
20 Jun 17 UTC
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The Liberal Safe Space
Because we clearly need one so our delicate feelings don't get hurt.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
I prompose to Wonder Woman
I bet she cleans up nice.
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WiseJazzer (106 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
Austria has advantage over France on 1 on 1 games
is there someone out there that thinks Austria doesn't have an advantage over France in the 1 on 1 game mode? or Is this a well known fact and Im late at realizing about it?
Ezio (663 D Mod)
18 Jun 17 UTC
When your opponents suck you'd rather be Austria. If they're good you'd rather be France.
WiseJazzer (106 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
Why?
Bladerunners (1060 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
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1:1 isn't a diplomacy game and shouldn't even be on the site ... so not really worth discussing imo
CptMike (3299 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
* If both players are starting in the game, Austria is easier to play and stronger.
* if both are experienced players, France has the advantage of the initiative.
* Between skilled and experienced players, the opening is important because it influences the capability of adapting your strategy for next moves. Both countries are equivalent. Maybe Austria can offer more "surprises".
Ezio (663 D Mod)
18 Jun 17 UTC
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Austria can blitz 18 centers and win if France sucks. France has the edge in every stalemate line and longterm positioning. If France can stop Austria's rush it'll win basically every time.
If they suck, they won't be able to stop the rush, and so if your opponent is bad you'd rather be Austria.
fourofswords (400 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
Bladerunners is right.
speudebradeos (324 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
IMHO, France has the advantage because Austria can only build fleets on the SE side of the stalemate line, while France can build fleets on both sides. All it really has to do is bottle up Austria in the Med while taking Tunis and head toward stalemate positions in the North.
CptMike (3299 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
@ Speudebradeos : That's not that simple. Austria has huge advantages for armies. Eg: StP is on the French side of the stalemate. But StP is at 4 steps away from Vie and 4 steps away from Bud on a path comprising supply centers. It is 4 steps away from Brest only if the French plays doesn't stop at Lon, which he can't offer... Another point: Berlin is on the French side of the stalemate but there is also a Austrian stalemate to keep it... Based on this, you could claim Austria is much stronger.
CptMike (3299 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
That said, I find GvI more equilibrated. The opening can give some advantages but then both players have to fight for each center. It can become much more chaotic very fast.
CptMike (3299 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
@WiseJazzer: here is an illustrative example between 2 great players.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200543

France succeeded in pushing enough pressure on Austria so that this latest had to took risks whereas he was trying to rush... Austria didn't really make a mistake but finally made a bad guess in the too many 50/50 he had to manage. And his front collapsed.
Bladerunners (1060 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
Cpt Mike .. lol - no such thing as 2 great players in a 1:1 game. great players at what?> not diplomacy. 2 junior players can have a game that looks the same. why talk so much about 1:1 games? they aren't diplomacy. wish the site would at least eliminate their stats on player pages - so we can tell how a player is doing in real diplomacy games
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
No *real* diplomacy player would ever consider trying 1v1 now, would they?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
Should have said, "No *true* diplomacy player..." if you catch my drift...
Zybodia (355 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
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People keep putting forth this myth that France is stronger among good players, but looking at high-level games shows the lie there.
Yoyoyozo (216 D Mod)
18 Jun 17 UTC
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If you want to 1v1 me as Austria, I'll gladly show you how France wins in the long run.
Zybodia (355 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
If Austria plays right, it doesn't get to endgame situations.

If you're serious, I will take you up on that. I can't do less than 24 hour phases, but I ready up whenever I'm online.
eturnage (296 D (B))
18 Jun 17 UTC
1v1 played at 5 minute intervals is a very good variant to practice tactics for ftf tournaments.
Yoyoyozo (216 D Mod)
18 Jun 17 UTC
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@Zyb check your PMs
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200724
For people that want to spectate
snowy801 (626 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
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Get him yoyo
I'm on team France all the way
WiseJazzer (106 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
Well thanks all for your thoughts. Those of you who think 1vs1 is not worth discussing, don't discuss it.
I guess I still have much to learn since I still get better results as Austria.
I'm expectating the game between Yoyo and Zyb.
swordsman3003 (9866 D Mod (G))
18 Jun 17 UTC
When you say that a power if favored, how much are we talking about: 6:4 France? 7:3 France?

I think whatever the difference is, that difference is less than 6:4, (like 5.5:4.5 which is "balanced" as much as any asymmetrical game is likely to get.

A long game favors France, but Austria can win. I have no fear of playing Austria.
Mercy (1567 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Austria is better.
MajorMitchell (960 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
When an intoxicated Ghug has France and I have Austria, France has the advantage..it's been proven.
CptMike (3299 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
If the question really matters, a good way would be to check among the strongest players how many times they lost (or drew) with Austria and how many times with France (when not intoxicated or dopped). If strong players lost or concede the draw more often with one country rather than the other one we can conclude there is stronger country.

Another way to solve the problem is to perform the same analysis among players discovering AvF but in recording the number of victories, not of defeats.
CptMike (3299 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Guys, have a look at Spring '02 move of SplitDiplomat here :
* http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200638

That shows why France or Austria does not really matters are not "stronger" than the other one among skilled and expererienced players. ( Take care we can't comment more. It is a currently running game. But it is talking...)
michaelf77 (432 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Or check this game, which Austrian move would you say was a mistake?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200541
Zybodia (355 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
First one I see was not taking Munich in Autumn 1902, and it went downhill from there.
Zybodia (355 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Actually, cancel that. Heading east from Warsaw in Spring 1902 is a dicey move, and probably the more damaging one.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Knowing that Austria only needs 1 fleet in Ionian Sea and 1 fleet in Naples, and armies in Italy to lock down everything east of there is critical to success.

Take 2 of 3 from Berlin, Munich and StP and that's 18. Norway can speed things up if you get lucky. If France doesn't pressure Tunis, take that and fall back as needed.
Yoyoyozo (216 D Mod)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Are you watching my game with Zybodia Jeff?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Took a peek just now.

Here's the epic Austria win...4 years:

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200561#gamePanel
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
4 years and 1 fleet
michaelf77 (432 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Not taking Munich is pretty standard without army in Paris - some think it's better to bottle up Piedmont. Moving to Warsaw is also pretty standard because you want to rush St. Pete to take one of keys as outlined by Jeff.
michaelf77 (432 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200561 - mistake by France not pushing Silesia, it would've been much different game.
As Austria? It's always better to bottle up Piedmont. You really only need one of Mun/Berlin to win the game, and often enough I just rush Berlin, turtle it, and race to the other 17
michaelf77 (432 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Exactly my point, so the move to Piedmont was very standard and not a bad move.
Zybodia (355 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
Obviously we have different thoughts on Austria. (Also, just because something is standard does not mean it's not a bad move. :P)
Zybodia (355 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
However, I am certainly claiming to be the best Austria player ever; just a regular guy who will gladly take Austria versus anybody.*

*1v1 only. Austria is my least favorite country to play in Diplomacy.
Zybodia (355 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
Dang it! "certainly *not* claiming".
slypups (1585 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
1v1 is not Diplomacy, but it is an alternate fun strategy game using the same map. Gunboats are only a shadow of Diplomacy too, since your communication is limited to signaling with moves, but there is at least that form of weak signaling.


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CptMike (3299 D)
17 Jun 17 UTC
Who are we ?
Hello guys... Nearly all of us use 'pseudonyms' to register and to play. I was just wondering who we are ?
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What will happen if
...................
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
I've been thinking
I've found my life's purpose
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Waustin (0 D X)
20 Jun 17 UTC
World Diplomacy
Need 7.more for a world diplomacy game called Pandora's World please join I have personally never had any. Opportuninty to play a world game and would really enjoy the chance.
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Jamiet99uk (57 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
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Is Brainbomb real?
Does anyone have evidence of the existence of Brainbomb?
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captainmeme (849 D Mod)
19 Jun 17 UTC
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I propose we ban Zultar
All Zultars on the forum always start and end with people insulting Zultar.
If we never Zultar, Zultar will have to find some other Zultar to abuse their Zultar.
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