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Jamiet99uk (100 D)
28 Apr 17 UTC
I can be an asshole sometimes.
Sorry. I'm trying to be a calmer person in my forum interactions. I'm nice in real life. Honest.
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Carebear (100 D)
28 Apr 17 UTC
Yet Another Newbie Question
In a game, there was a support move order that was cut. To me, the graphic was ambiguous as to whom the support was provided. No player moved to the space. Is there a way to see the actual orders entered by my opponents after adjudication?
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Randomizer (100 D)
11 Apr 17 UTC
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What can Happen on Over Booked Airline Flight
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/travel/passenger-removed-united-flight-trnd/index.html
Getting forcibly removed to make room. Another reason not to fly.
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jmo1121109 (2482 D Mod)
26 Apr 17 UTC
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Last visited: 13 Mar 2017
Doesn't someone have to eat a shoe now?
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420thReich (100 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
User Meta Gaming
The user "Twitchell" and "Communists Unite" are the same person. He created "Communists Unite" to take control of someone that left our game. Please ban for meta-gaming.
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Hauta (1588 D (S))
27 Apr 17 UTC
Why didn't Obama prosecute Michael Flynn?
If what Michael Flynn did was wrong, then why didn't Obama prosecute him for it?
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brainbomb (474 D)
25 Apr 17 UTC
Catholic School horror stories
When I was in 4th grade I puked on the girl next to me in church during an all school mass. It was on her coat and in her hair. I think thats why she hated me moving forward. Pretty sure her name was amamda er something. Share your nightmares of similair nature.
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jmo1121109 (2482 D Mod)
26 Apr 17 UTC
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Rules Question
"Furthermore, it is against the rules to make cheating accusations on the forum, even in cases where the user in question has been confirmed to own multiple accounts. The most frequent reason users create additional accounts is that they forgot the password to their original account."

Question inside
jmo1121109 (2482 D Mod)
27 Apr 17 UTC
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On the first part, doesn't that mean that saying that Sarg cheated a ton and ruined games is now against the rules? Or that Sandgoose was a multi or that JackBot16 was a multi are all against the rules? Seems like an odd new rule to put in place, plus semantically wrong since it isn't an accusation if someone is simply stating a fact.

On the second claim, LMFAO that is simply untrue, I dealt with over 2,000 cases, most involving multi's as a mod. A massive majority of those were cheaters and resulted in well over 1,000 bans. How many people who "forgot their password" are you running into these days?

Anyways, I'm out again, I'll check for replies in a couple weeks or so.
Gen. Lee (7688 D (B))
27 Apr 17 UTC
1,000 bans is pretty good. But I think you should come back, at least until that number is over 9,000.
CommanderByron (569 D Mod (S))
27 Apr 17 UTC
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jmo isnt the hero we want but he is the hero we need.
Durga (705 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
RIP pw
orathaic (1009 D (B))
27 Apr 17 UTC
Actually, i think this is badly worded, to the point of not making any sense.

Saying someone has been banned for multi-accounting (or cheating in general) is not an accusation. It is a statement of fact about actions taken by the mods.

Now if the intention is to protect relatively innocent players who created a second account due to lost passwords, then fine. You could be seen to be creating unnecessary drama at the expense of an innocent player and taking the reputation of the site down.

If on the other hand this is being used to protect the actions of mods from being discussed in public, then that is rather over-stepping the position a trusted community member should have, imo.

Mods are not employees, dictating some corporate policy to paying customers.

We are a community, and mods are members of that community who hold some responsibility due to the trust they have earned.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
27 Apr 17 UTC
somebody tell a joke
Jacob63831 (160 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
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If pro is the opposite of con

What is the opposite of progress
sandyshu47 (512 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
Trump?
bo_sox48 (4243 D Mod (G))
27 Apr 17 UTC
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The purpose of the rule prohibiting public cheating accusations is partially to filter out spam posts that should otherwise be reported directly to the mods and partially to protect players against having their reputations tarnished, whether the accusation made against them is true or not. It is wrong to state that something cannot be an accusation if it is a fact.

In that sense, yes, technically, calling any former or current cheater a cheater, no matter how widely known it is, could be classified as a cheating accusation. However, just as we do in all situations, the moderators hold a certain degree of discretion over the enforcement of the rules. If the purpose of a thread is to call out a player as a cheater, tarnish their reputation, and put them permanently on display, then yes, no matter who that is, that is a cheating accusation. If the purpose of a thread is to have a constructive discussion regarding cheating and the story of someone who cheated in the past comes up as part of a constructive discussion, that is not a cheating accusation. The metric of whether or not something is an accusation or not, therefore, is self-explanatory: is the statement accusatory? If the answer is yes, then it is an accusation. If the answer is no, then it is not an accusation. This is clearly subjective, but making subjective decisions is exactly why moderators exist.

The thread in question was locked because we interpreted it to be accusatory, where its purpose was just as much to call out a player and tarnish their reputation, whether in truth or not, as it was to air a legitimate grievance regarding a rule or have some other sort of discussion about cheating. Disagreement over whether or not the post in question was accusatory is fair and welcome, but the moderators interpreted this way (inb4fascists) in no small part due to the fact that an example was made of one and only one player in an attempt to tarnish their reputation when the matter could have easily been discussed without making an example out of any one player at all.

We already gave the OP of that thread permission to repost the thread without making accusations as we would be happy to have a discussion on the merits of our free CD takeovers. Of course, anyone is welcome to open this discussion as well. I, for one, would be happy to talk about it.

- webDiplomacy Moderator

P.S. idk wtf pw was talking about with that password thing
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
27 Apr 17 UTC
So ixnay on the accusationsnay. Nuff said and say no more, evermore and all that raven stuff you know and such and such as she said, ya know?
orathaic (1009 D (B))
27 Apr 17 UTC
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That is well and good. My issue was with the usage of the word accuse, and the common legal usage (which i suspect i picked up from tv legal dramas, possibly americans ones) of being in a state of uncertainty. The accused is not yet convicted, not proven guilty.

I think the dictionary definition does not back me up on this point. So i should perhaps withdraw my complaint.

However the wording of the rule could be clarified. Based on what was said above, the mods will lock threads which are used to explicitally tarnish a person's reputation - in particular with respect of cheating.

For the sake of example: I can claim that MadMarx's reputation was undeserved (it wasn't) and attempt to tarnish it, but i can't claim he cheated (even if that is true - and it isn't) in order to tarnish his reputation.

In most countries with libel laws, truth is not libellous. You can't make a cheatin accusation on the forum, for good reasons. And the mods don't publically 'name and shame' cheaters for us to hate on - this also seems fair enough, as it would be tantamount to bullying.

I would like to see the rule as written clarified to better represent these 'mod interpretations'. Is that a fair request?
Ogion (3938 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
On a related note, I recently reported a case of a large group of metagamers who apparently invite players into games without telling them that two thirds are friends in real life and then they either strategically CD or agree amongst themselves to ally and draw. This amounts to a scam at best and a massive multi issue at worst (since some of these friends have accounts but don't actually play making it easier for their buddies)

I haven't posted about this because mods are looking into it, but I do feel that it is a civic duty to warn others that certain players are engaged in this scam. However, the rule prevents me for warming other community memebers, meaning that others are certainly getting scammed into their "private" games and being taken as easy marks.
captainmeme (849 D Mod)
27 Apr 17 UTC
Ogion - If the moderators are investigating it then any games those players are playing in together will be paused until the investigation has concluded, and cancelled if the cheating is actually happening. As such, there is no danger of players getting 'scammed' while the mods are looking into it, so there is no need for you to post a warning.
Ogion (3938 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
Ah. I didn't know that. I should have guessed you guys are in top of it


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The Ambassador (149 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
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Latest podcast including webDip live games...
Hi folks, episode 16 of the Diplomacy Games podcast is now live. We talk metagaming arseholes, the live Dip game experience at webDip & the Colonial variant over at VDip.

And of course there's drinking... a lot of it. Listen at DiplomacyGames.com, iTunes or Stitcher.
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VashtaNeurotic (639 D)
18 Apr 17 UTC
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Greatest Movie Tournament
It's been a while since we've done one of these. Details Below.
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DammmmDaniel (104 D)
26 Apr 17 UTC
Boy Scouts
I am having problems acquiring my Eagle Scout
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goldfinger0303 (1961 D Mod)
14 Apr 17 UTC
GvI 1v1 Strategy
A thread to talk about strategy and openings for GvI. Particularly from an Italian perspective.
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brainbomb (474 D)
26 Apr 17 UTC
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Girl Scouts
I am having problems selling all my cookies this year.
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Hauta (1588 D (S))
25 Apr 17 UTC
28 pieces of legislation signed by Trump into law
Here's the list:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/signed-legislation
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Jamiet99uk (100 D)
18 Apr 17 UTC
UK General Election, 2017
Well here's a bit of news. There will be a General Election in the UK on 8th June.
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user1981 (416 D)
26 Apr 17 UTC
How to bet 0 not taking over CD
You make two accounts, after one is banned, you ask the moderator to still play in the game with the second, so in effect taking over cd from yourself, it is allowed to do it on this site - example as a france http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=196322
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Hauta (1588 D (S))
22 Apr 17 UTC
Clean wood energy
All this talk about clean coal. Why bother digging up energy when we have so much wood ABOVE ground! As a bonus, we get more farmland. Let's retrain coal miners to be lumberjacks!
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Hauta (1588 D (S))
25 Apr 17 UTC
Where is the Coke ad where...
I want to see a Coke ad where a Kendall Jenner look-a-like tries to stop a riot by presenting a can of Pepsi. After a dramatic pause in the melee, both sides ask her, "You got Coke?" [Then they resume fighting].
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captainmeme (849 D Mod)
20 Apr 17 UTC
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WebDiplomacy Survivor
Roll up, roll up! I got permission to run this game on the site, and since there’s a reasonable time until the next mafia game so this would be the time to do it.
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DRFrazier99 (65 D)
25 Apr 17 UTC
New Game
how do I join a new game?
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Smokey Gem (209 D)
23 Apr 17 UTC
Basic D& D where to get moduals and or Immortals set..
Does anyone have any sets they want to off load ?/
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David Ridley (90 D)
24 Apr 17 UTC
Allocation of countries
How does the server decide which country you get?
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DammmmDaniel (104 D)
24 Apr 17 UTC
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3 Months into Calculus
Things are getting pretty serious. We have all-nighters together, we watch Khan Academy videos together and it even joined my subject study group. I think this one is a hard one. Its thermos are alright too.
Hey BB suck on this
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Handschar (31 D X)
21 Apr 17 UTC
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Reenactors
Are there any other reenactors here? I do both American Civil War and WWII Reenacting and would like to know if there are any others out there like me.
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markradar29 (407 D)
14 Apr 17 UTC
1901 Country Assignments
Does anybody else constantly get assigned the same country or countries? I've entered into maybe 15 games and every time but one, have been assigned either England, Germany, or Russia.

(Note: this is not a complaint--I'll never bemoan a free game of Diplomacy!!! Just curious :-)
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swordsman3003 (10180 D Mod (G))
24 Apr 17 UTC
Game Start Date - any way to know?
I know you can see the date a game finished, but is there a way to look and see when it started? I am curious to see how long a game took to finish in real time.

I looked for this for a while, so I'm the dunce if someone immediately points this out...
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bo_sox48 (4243 D Mod (G))
22 Apr 17 UTC
I'm drunk
How is your night going, webdip
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peterwiggin (14408 D (S))
22 Apr 17 UTC
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I'm sober
How is your day going, webdip
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abgemacht (840 D (G))
21 Apr 17 UTC
I also have an oven story
Accidentally hit Clean a few days ago. Cancelled it because there were things in the oven. Haven't been able to open it since. Have had it unplugged for 24 hours, hoping the electromagnet that allegedly locks it loses strength soon. Will update as warranted.
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peterwiggin (14408 D (S))
22 Apr 17 UTC
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Mod team announcement
Please welcome Socrates dissatisfied to the mod team.
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