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Hauta (1212 D)
Wed 01 PM UTC
Getting Mexico to pay for the wall
Why doesn't Trump just impound Mexican land on the other side of the Rio Grande? -- land with a value equal to what it costs to build the wall. As a bonus, the wall could be built south of the river. That would make it easier to build.
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Jamiet99uk (64 D (B))
Fri 07 PM UTC
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Ed Balls
Ed Balls.
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Sevyas (740 D)
Thu 10 AM UTC
Talk, or die! Reboot
"Talk, or die!" game got cancelled due to 3 NMRs before end of 03. Here's an attempt to start a new game with more or less the same settings.
Full press, 48 hours, (semi-)anon, DSS, 50 points buy-in, RR 90%.
Active players of the old game will have priority to sign up.
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Crazy Anglican (201 D)
30 Dec 16 UTC
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Word association thread
It has been a while since we did one. Post the first single word that comes to mind when you read the last post in the thread.
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VashtaNeurotic (1044 D)
Fri 05 AM UTC
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Official Greatest Movie Tournament Thread
See details inside:
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Oztra (75 D)
25 Mar 17 UTC
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Bump
Because I'm a new pleb, I'm not sure what bump means.
I've been seeing people use it a lot, and am unsure of the context and meaning behind this phrase
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lalaland (107 D)
04:22 PM UTC
Live game almost full
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=197106
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CommanderByron (678 D (S))
Fri 04 PM UTC
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I challenge you.
Here ye here ye. The grand CommanderByron, lord of the stalemate, and sultan of supports. Here by challenges any person with a Decent GR and a RR of 63% or more to a battle. This battle will take among the forests of Germany, the deserts of turkey, the snowy tundra of Russia, the coasts of France and Italy and the rolling hills of England.
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Deeply_Dippy (400 D)
Fri 11 AM UTC
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End of Game (EOG) Statements: Why not?
As a relative newbie, I've noticed that no one ever seems to post EOGs in the forum. Is there a reason for that?

Is this something that used to be done but the practice fell away?
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peterwiggin (14862 D Mod (S))
24 Mar 17 UTC
Spring 2017 SoW Study Game
This thread is for commentary and discussion on the spring 2017 School of War Study Game: gameID=194603

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slypups (905 D)
Fri 03 PM UTC
Team 5v5 Modern War II Game
I'm setting up a team game of 5 players versus 5 other players (private game, unranked, full press).
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Hauta (1212 D)
Fri 04 PM UTC
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Option to Publish private messages at end of game
I always wondered what private messages people were sending in full press games. Can we have an option when creating a New Game that once the game is over, everyone can review the private messages? -- Or does that already exist?
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lalaland (107 D)
Fri 09 PM UTC
Live Game Almost full
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=197048
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peterwiggin (14862 D Mod (S))
27 Mar 17 UTC
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Spring 2017 School of War thread
This thread is for commentary and discussion on the spring 2017 School of War Game: gameID=194759
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CAPT Brad (1698 D (B))
Tue 25 Apr UTC
@peterwiggin gameID=183731

yes i see, you played poorly and all the breaks went russia's way
goldfinger0303 (1017 D)
Wed 06 AM UTC
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Lecture 9, Cont.

Spring 1904

I seem to be a phase behind consistently, but I feel that I should continue with my remarks, since my opinion differs from ghug's.

Turkey: A+

I'll leave this short. Good job in tricking one neighbor, using another, and setting up your ally in an advantageous alliance for a successful stab. I'm not taking back my commentary from the past phase, but I would call the past year very successful for you nonetheless. I agree with ghug that you could've (and probably should've, imo) played a slow game of eating your way through the Eastern powers by yourself. Growing really fast and bursting your way to a solo (as ghug recommended) really only works for a select few powers who straddle the stalemate line - France, Russia, and perhaps arguably Germany and Italy. Everyone else should time their growth burst in a large stab later on in the game, and just work your way slow and steady to a foothold on the stalemate line. That's my opinion.

Italy: C-

I don't like I/T's. I *really* don't like them, as I believe they are inherently the least stable alliance on the board. I especially don't like them when E/G are allied. Your decision here to ally with Turkey when was only wise if you and Austria had completely irreconcilable differences, and you believed you had no other choice in ally. If this was your last resort alliance, then I begrudgingly approve. But if this was your last resort alliance, you've clearly been doing something wrong in your press this whole game.

Why is it unstable, you ask? I assume every power is trying to solo. Every other neighbor alliance has a natural expansion route. E/G can go down from the north or wrap around MAO fairly easily. E/R can carve up Russia. E/F move east together. F/G have natural expansion lines delineated by Switzerland. R/T move west. A/R is the exact same as an R/T. A/T isn't too much different either. I/R works just as well as I/A. But I/T....where does Turkey go? Seriously. Once your primary opponent is dead, where does Turkey go? Russia can usually form an easy choke point with War/Ukraine/Moscow that England/Germany would be wise not to mess with. And if Russia can't form that, yay Turkey gets Moscow/Warsaw and is appeased for another season...but then you're back at the same point. Once Russia and Austria are dead, Turkey comes through Italy. You can't break Berlin/Munich without an English ally, and even then, you're running into the wall of....your English ally. The only way Turkey can hope to ever solo in a I/T is to stab Italy. And the sooner the better, in most cases.

So, poor choice of alliance, but if its what you had to do, its what you had to do. Just know that Turkey can't disband those fleets. And E/G doesn't look to be breaking up any time soon.

Austria: D

You should have seen that coming. I like the idea of allying with Turkey. I will *not* knock you for that. That was a smart strategic choice of yours, and could have worked out for you. Honestly, it could've. The next turn you could've turned cloak and leveraged an angry Russia to have a shot at Serbia or Rum.

However, you should've seen the Italian stab coming. That Italy support held Ionian meant that Trieste could've been saved by a simple poke of Tyrolia or support hold on Trieste. The fleet disband means that Italy is hostile to you! If he intended on being friendly, then he would've disbanded an army. A better diplomatic effort in the builds phase might've trashed the alliance with Turkey, yeah (I wouldn't turn on Russia if I saw Italy disband an army) but....idk, the signs were there.

Russia: F

As has been said, the fleet movements should've been an indicator for you. And I swear to god, whenever this game ends I want you to PM me the reason for those bounces in Sweden. Its infuriating. I see no reason as to why it keeps happening. Support Germany in, for Christ's sake.
goldfinger0303 (1017 D)
Wed 07 AM UTC
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Lecture 10: Fall 1904

Finally, a timely lecture from Prof goldfinger!

THE WEST

England: A

A good result, a good result! Finally we have some progress in the West. And more luck in the East! With destroys, its possible that the pesky Russian won't be able to bother you in StP anymore. You should argue hard for that fleet to be disbanded.

Other than that, just keep up what you've been doing. Keep Germany onboard (because finishing off France will be rather difficult without him) and carry on with talking with everyone else. France from here on is a lesson in pure mechanics. Let's see if you've got what it takes.

France: B-

Tactics, tactics, tactics. Just because I said to do a move one season doesn't make it the best move to do the next. Being in NAO is next to useless for you right now. Especially when considering moving to the Channel would've been better in every possible circumstance.

Circumstance 1) England moves EC to MAO successfully. You bounce England in Channel. Things are bad, but not as bad as they are right now.

Circumstance 2) England moves EC to MAO successfully and moves to Wales (oddly). You're in EC. That benefit roughly balances out the weakness of losing MAO, as you're now assured either Belgium or Burgundy, or can cover both Iberia and Brest with ease (by retreating to Portugal)

Circumstance 3) England moves NAO to Channel with EC support. It fails

Circumstance 4) England moves to Brest. You can the channel and get your now-useless Irish Sea fleet into a very useful EC position (or bounce London out of the channel, which enables you to dislodge...or even disband...the English fleet in Brest.

Your strategic and diplomatic options in this game have been very, very limited. In these situations, good tactics is the difference between life and death. I've seen jmo hold off a R/A (or was it R/I) for 3-4 turns with just 3 Turkish units. Me in the same situation? 2 turns at most haha. But that extra year can mean the world in changing diplomatic circumstances. Maybe Russia stops bouncing Sweden and England has to disband lol. But you get the point. Think a bit harder on the correct tactics you need to use and what retreat you should do to survive the longest. All is not lost yet for you. Even against the combined forces of E/G, you can hold out for a very long time so long as you have 4 SC's or so. With the East wrapping up, time is on your side.

Germany: C-

Sigh. Another year passes, another no-build Germany. I seriously don't get it with Sweden, man. Why do you keep trying to backfill Den? That army could've been put to much better work in the East. It could literally save the game from being steamrolled by a I/T and change the entire dynamic. But its just...sitting there. You know, as I'm writing this, I decided to knock you down even further to a C- because just the sheer lack of movement is so wasteful. You had such potential, Germany. Then poor tactics and a shoddy alliance have ally but wasted it. And its not like you're even trying to do something different, despite what ghug and I have been saying. I mean, the fact that I have France a full letter grade above you despite France being in the slow process of dying should be telling you something.

Things I would've done differently this year:
Move to Baltic and push Kiel to Den.
Stab England
Move Mun East

I don't think you realize just how big of a potential threat the I/T is. The only way that alliance survives long term is by getting England to turn on you. And there are frankly fewer and fewer reasons for England not to, now that he has MAO. Expect that to be their primary press goal from here until one of the two board alliances fails.

The one good thing you did this year is allow Austria to survive, so kudos are given for that.

England will be growing. Your eastern front will be under serious threat. You have no future growth prospects. How will you respond?

THE EAST

Turkey: A+

Not much to be said here. Solid stuff. You're in a good position. Not exactly to solo, but in a good safe position nonetheless. Make sure you're still keeping in touch with everyone across the board. It is too easy to become complacent here.

Italy: A-

Well, good job getting those builds! Now....Turkey still has fleets to pose a threat to you, is guaranteed another build next year while you are not, and has armies in place to threaten your new holdings and wrap around them to the north while you can do no such thing.

Enjoy!



But in seriousness, its possible to prevent a Turkish stab. You just need to be very, very talkative with Turkey, keep his fleets crawling further and further away from you (this is a demand I would *absolutely* insist on) and in general give him a narrow outlet of slow, steady expansion. You also need to make sure that once you guys reach StP, Berlin and Munich that you won't be stuck there. That will be tricky, and there's only a few options available to you to do it. Talk it over with your TA.

As for any western expansion....I'm not sure if 1) You can/should spare enough units to make it successful and 2) If it was successful, if you'd manage to hold any of it longer than a year

Austria: C

You should've been at two SC's. Poor tactics on your part has been costing you this game, but its all part of the learning process. Vienna support Budapest to Trieste would have given you a guaranteed second center. Another prof can check me on this, but I believe there is no possible set of moves I/T could have done to take all your home SC's from you this fall had you done that.

But, I shall praise you where its due. Good job on getting Warsaw. To truly secure yourself a position on the line, you'll need to do some tricky maneuvering and work closely with every non-I/T power over there who can possibly help. I would retreat your army to Galicia and then strongly think on the moves needed to form some sort of line while leaving you a place *on* a supply center.

Russia: F

Again with the Sweden bouncing. Russia, if you didn't bounce Sweden all the time, and just supported an attack on StP, you could 1) Get on the correct side of the stalemate line and perhaps stay there! ***Hence potentially surviving to the draw*** 2) Get a build maybe (in years past) and 3) Have England lose 1 or even 2 SC's and **win Germany as an ally**

Now, I won't go as far to say that your Sweden plays cost you the game, but damn if it hasn't been a close thing. You have somehow managed to make your most valuable piece in the north utterly useless for the entire game. You moved to Baltic, but then tap the wrong territory, allowing your chief enemy in the north to grow and keeping your secondary enemy next to your home SC. Then you again, inexplicably for three seasons in a row, help England keep Sweden and StP when by all rights he should've lost both.

But the main reason that I've given you an F is that I think you've given up. Austria is inarguably in worse shape than you, but at least he is still trying and you can tell he's trying. Black Sea hold??? Really?? When Sev is being threatened. At the very least, you could've tapped Rumania to try and slow Turkey down. Maybe regain the East. The fact that Germany supported Austria into your territory shows that Germany has more confidence in Austria being able to help him out in that region than in you. That's a problem.

I would strongly consider F Black Sea and A Ukraine as disbands. You need Austria and Germany now to survive. F GoB can be a leverage tool. Working together, the three of you can stop I/T dead in its tracks. But you need to work together, and frankly you need England removed from StP. I would only assume that E and T are working closely together from here on out.

A REMINDER TO EVERYONE

Builds/disbands are important. Look at what they say before you start conducting your spring press.
Bump for builds.

Not much to talk about here. I like France's retreat to Portugal - that was the smart thing to do. I like Russia's disbands - though that shows England's press failures there (and a coup for Germany...though, I'm not too sure what the history of Sweden is now). Italy's builds are sensible and, by themselves, mean nothing. But if you look at Turkey and his armies, you could reasonably guess that Turkey expects Italy to move West.

But nothing is guaranteed! Keep trying to break the I/T apart, everyone. I/T, keep in touch with each other because you know the board is targeting you. Certain powers may also be more willing to ally with you than others.


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Jamiet99uk (64 D (B))
Fri 12 PM UTC
I can be an asshole sometimes.
Sorry. I'm trying to be a calmer person in my forum interactions. I'm nice in real life. Honest.
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Carebear (95 D)
Fri 03 PM UTC
Yet Another Newbie Question
In a game, there was a support move order that was cut. To me, the graphic was ambiguous as to whom the support was provided. No player moved to the space. Is there a way to see the actual orders entered by my opponents after adjudication?
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brainbomb (324 D)
Thu 03 PM UTC
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Banning Jenetically Modified Organisms
I think we should probably get rid of Jenetically Modified Organisms. For a while I thought they were gone but they seem to be making a comeback. Our health is at risk people. Do you wanna sit in your moms basement eating old cheese? Are you tired of being tired? Does your back hurt?
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Randomizer (131 D)
Tue 11 Apr UTC
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What can Happen on Over Booked Airline Flight
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/travel/passenger-removed-united-flight-trnd/index.html
Getting forcibly removed to make room. Another reason not to fly.
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jmo1121109 (2537 D Mod)
Wed 11 PM UTC
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Last visited: 13 Mar 2017
Doesn't someone have to eat a shoe now?
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420thReich (9 D)
Thu 10 PM UTC
User Meta Gaming
The user "Twitchell" and "Communists Unite" are the same person. He created "Communists Unite" to take control of someone that left our game. Please ban for meta-gaming.
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Hauta (1212 D)
Thu 02 PM UTC
Why didn't Obama prosecute Michael Flynn?
If what Michael Flynn did was wrong, then why didn't Obama prosecute him for it?
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kaner406 (366 D)
28 Mar 17 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to combat advertising for games inside otherwise unrelated threads: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads that thread readers are subjected to. Post game link, game type and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Hauta (1212 D)
Mon 24 Apr UTC
France's Macron statutorily raped by his high school teacher, quite possibly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron#Personal_life

He was also a member of the Socialist Party. Will the opposition be able to take advantage of these things? Runoff is on May 7th.
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brainbomb (324 D)
Tue 25 Apr UTC
Catholic School horror stories
When I was in 4th grade I puked on the girl next to me in church during an all school mass. It was on her coat and in her hair. I think thats why she hated me moving forward. Pretty sure her name was amamda er something. Share your nightmares of similair nature.
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jmo1121109 (2537 D Mod)
Wed 11 PM UTC
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Rules Question
"Furthermore, it is against the rules to make cheating accusations on the forum, even in cases where the user in question has been confirmed to own multiple accounts. The most frequent reason users create additional accounts is that they forgot the password to their original account."

Question inside
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jmo1121109 (2537 D Mod)
Thu 12 AM UTC
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Thread Mutes
If you mute too many threads and then go to the settings page and try and change your password the site will let you, but the wrong password will be saved. So please limit yourself to muting less then 4,346 threads or I will have to delete all of them to fix your account. Cheers.
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The Ambassador (169 D)
Thu 03 AM UTC
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Latest podcast including webDip live games...
Hi folks, episode 16 of the Diplomacy Games podcast is now live. We talk metagaming arseholes, the live Dip game experience at webDip & the Colonial variant over at VDip.

And of course there's drinking... a lot of it. Listen at DiplomacyGames.com, iTunes or Stitcher.
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VashtaNeurotic (1044 D)
Tue 18 Apr UTC
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Greatest Movie Tournament
It's been a while since we've done one of these. Details Below.
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DammmmDaniel (55 D)
Wed 06 AM UTC
Boy Scouts
I am having problems acquiring my Eagle Scout
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goldfinger0303 (1017 D)
Fri 14 Apr UTC
GvI 1v1 Strategy
A thread to talk about strategy and openings for GvI. Particularly from an Italian perspective.
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