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brainbomb (302 D)
Wed 22 Mar UTC
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John Cena!
The purpose of this thread is just to appreciate everything that John Cena Mill was. His amazingly useful quotes specifically.
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Hauta (1356 D)
Wed 22 Mar UTC
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How can I get some of that Putin money like Manafort?
What's it take to get on Putin's payroll? That guy pays a lot!
Just found out that Manafort owns an apartment at Trump Tower. I presume it's on a lower floor than Trump. Do the wires from Trump's penthouse travel through Manafort's level?
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brainbomb (302 D)
Sun 19 Mar UTC
Is playing with snakes harder?
yo, i got a question.
am i the only one finding it extremely hard and frustrating playing with cobras?
i am not the most experienced snake charmer in the world, but ive had my share of snakes in my hands and reading on their scales.
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abgemacht (840 D (G))
09 Feb 17 UTC
webDip Player Map!
Post here with your City, Country, and Color Preference to be added to the map!
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zkz1OHicklqk.ky67Va8gNVi0
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Hauta (1356 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Treason depends on the definition of Enemy
Art III, Sec 3 of the Constitution defines treason, sort of. It depends on who an "Enemy" is. Back in the day when war was declared by Congress and peace was made by treaty, this was not a problem...
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JamesYanik (297 D)
Mon 20 Mar UTC
Is This Bipartisan?
so conservatives don't like forcing taxes from people, and liberals like social programs. so, how do we fund social programs without taxes?
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Condescension (218 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
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Every capt brad argument is just 'you should just go do this idiotic strawman thing I say you support'
Condescension (218 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
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brad is fundamentally incapable of interpreting worldviews that do not coincide with his own
brainbomb (302 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Brad im pretty sure people who join air force and navy rarely ever see much other than cushy benefits. Unless its the USS Cole were not exactly getting attacled by U boats regularly
brainbomb (302 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Theres probably still some japanese subs out there laying low that think the wars still on. Ya never know
Manwe Sulimo (651 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
There seems to be some confusion as to why farmers get subsidies so I'll do my best to clear that up. The reason farmers first started getting subsidies and still do today is to prevent food shortages and a resulting famine. Subsidies keep the level of food production in check so that farmers don't overproduce and send prices into the ground, causing widespread bankruptcy among farmers. If that were to happen, production would tank and food shortage would arise until the farmers who were pushed out of the market could come back as prices rose. The subsidies keep production, and therefore prices, relatively stable.

And as far as the OP goes, it wouldn't work for a multitude of reasons, many already touched upon. Taxes are the only reliable and significant source of government revenue. The government can't make a significant amount of money off of student loans (because there are only so many students and they only collect interest) or printing money (because of inflation). If you could find another way for the government to make money besides taxes, you'd win a nobel prize in economics.
Matticus13 (1167 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
They also maintain an army of powerful lobbyists. They keep giving Congress the Green, so they keep getting it.
brainbomb (302 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Manwe yes in some cases its true we subsidize farmers not to produce. However we also subsidize their kids getting to drive camaros and helicopters.
Manwe Sulimo (651 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
True, but I think they are right in asking for it. This is one of the very few areas of the private market I think the government has a reason to be involved in. I'm not about that Great Depression famine life.
brainbomb (302 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
In hyannis nebraska for example the ranchers get subsidies and make so much money they literally have helicopters and take their kids to school in a chopper because its faster. Thry installed a helicopter pad at the school to accomodate.

My god I wish I was joking
Manwe Sulimo (651 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Those go hand in hand, brainbomb. You can't expect them to sit on the money they are given to not produce and do nothing with it. Farming is a lucrative business for the big players, just a necessary evil so we don't all starve by driving everyone out of business with no production controls.
Manwe Sulimo (651 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
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You could just nationalize the agricultural business I suppose and that would have the same effect, but I don't think the majoirty of the country would be for it.
brainbomb (302 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Alot of great depression/dust bowl famines was poor irrigation and drought. Farm subsidies for farms that get hit by floods or severe dry spells sure okay but thats not any different than common sense disaster relief.

What you are suggesting is no different than cutting a check to each citizen of the city of miami because a hurricane may hit someday
Matticus13 (1167 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
I don't think your giving modern farmers their due, Manwe. This ain't the 1930s.
brainbomb (302 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
If you bought land in a shitty spot that floods and want taxpayers to keep saving yer farm uhhh sorry maybe you shouldnt try to grow corn in the sonoran desert.
Manwe Sulimo (651 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
I don't see how that example is comparable at all, brainbomb. And this isn't the 1930s because we learned our lesson then and instituted subsidies so the same thing happened. Low prices from overproduction in the late 20's pushing farmers out of the market contributed just as much to the shortages in the 30's as poor weather did.
Manwe Sulimo (651 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
That's not the primary goal of the subsidies, it's to keep prices stable, not forgive others for their mistakes.
brainbomb (302 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Part of being a lucrative and efficient farm is being qbke to stay afloat in any market with little need for taxpayer help. There are-farms that are doing this. Ironically they grow marijuana amidst massive oversight and regularions. With zero undocumented workers (because the feds would destroy them)
Manwe Sulimo (651 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Same thing didn't happen*
goldfinger0303 (1032 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
"the ranchers get subsidies"

Ranchers receive no subsidies from the US Department of Agriculture. Unless I am gravely mistaken, the vast majority of subsidies go to corn, wheat, rice, soybeans and cotton.
goldfinger0303 (1032 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
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brainbomb, its like you don't understand commodity markets at all.
goldfinger0303 (1032 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Referring to your comparison of a staple food with a modern day cash crop.
JamesYanik (297 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
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no my beautiful thread. how hijacked you have become. :'(

Rest in peace my foolish young ideologue dreams of utopia. all hope and beauty i once saw in the world is now gone.



anyone got weed?
Matticus13 (1167 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
What did you think I meant when I said "Green?"
damian (576 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Coming at this from another nation. Where some but not all agricultural production is controlled by quotas. I can say that direct cash subsidies are not necessary to keep production levels stable. With that said both systems, subsidies and quotas are abhorrent. Subsidies because they tend to skew towards large commercial production of cash crop and massive consolidation of farms.. Which gives up food deserts in productive areas of the country. And quotas because they create an old boys club. Where certain individuals has disproportionate control over our agricultural production. Admittedly subsidies do the later as well as it frees up capital for lobbying. Anyway. We're way off topic. An impossible but interesting way to fund the government would be to do away with the idea of owning land. Have all land owned the government and everyone pays rent. I realize this is basically property taxes with different optics, but most revenue streams are simply going to be taxes but a little bit different.

Also socialism is about people controlling the means of production. So your example, while a social welfare program is not socialism. :P
JamesYanik (297 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
my sister is studying food waste... i'm no fan of US agriculture
pastoralan (79 D)
Wed 22 Mar UTC
@JamesYanik: your thread got hijacked because the answer to your question is an obvious and total "no, you can't fund social programs without taxes." There's really nothing to talk about there.


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lalaland (113 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Greetings, join a live game if you inquire....
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194403
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LeonWalras (675 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
John Rawls!
The purpose of this thread is that if you knew everything about it, you'd be willing to enter it in a random place.
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Economics of News
I know we touched on this in the Glenn Greenwald thread, but vox has a great youtube video about it...
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Ogion (4343 D)
Fri 17 Mar UTC
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Meanwhile, massive coral die offs three decades early
While the genius Republicans are screaming "fake news" the real world (I.e., the planet Earth) is suffering hideous consequences from conservative stupidity.
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brainbomb (302 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
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Tomi Lahren suspended from the Blaze for admitting shes Pro Choice
“You know what? I’m for limited government, so stay out of my guns, and you can stay out of my body as well."
The republican love affair with Tomi Lahren has met an awkward crossroads.
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The Ambassador (184 D)
Mon 20 Mar UTC
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WebDip Hall of Fame covered on DiplomacyCast
Hi everyone, a new episode has (at last) dropped for the Diplomacy Games podcast...
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SeattleSlew (100 D)
Tue 21 Mar UTC
Old and Slow
Anybody up for a classic 3 day phase game? I'd like to give this site a try
gameID=194359
Password: Graves
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dobreni (145 D)
Sat 18 Mar UTC
how do you think a team game wll be fair? how many teams ?
3 teams
1 Fr+En
2 Tr+Ru
3 It+Au+Ge
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2ndWhiteLine (5381 D (B))
Wed 15 Mar UTC
GB 1 and 2
Since one game is stuck in pause purgatory and the other is an NMR ridden disaster, who wants to start a new round? No RR requirements but I have final say over who plays.
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gjdip (630 D)
Mon 20 Mar UTC
Replacement needed F01
Russia NMR in S01. Replacement much appreciated. http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194119.
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Fluminator (324 D)
Mon 20 Mar UTC
Climate Change Denial
So recently I've been considering becoming a climate change denier. What are people's thoughts on this? What would be some pros and cons to becoming one?
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Crazy Anglican (201 D)
Sun 19 Mar UTC
"Everyone show up for this school" EoG's
If you want to post here.
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Tastyjc7 (411 D)
Mon 20 Mar UTC
Join full web dip
I want people to join the game because it's no messaging and it's anonymous so it's just pure 1v1 with everyone! Let's see who is the best!
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Chanakya. (598 D)
Fri 17 Mar UTC
Why are people not playing LIVE games nowadays?
I am back after a long time. 4 years to be precise. But when I left, there used to be a lot of LIVE games all the times. Now, whenever I peek the website out of curiosity, I never find a LIVE game. I tried making rooms, but no one ever joined!

What happened here? :p
Care to brief me a bit?
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CptMike (2044 D)
Sun 19 Mar UTC
Does a tap on our unit cancel their support ?
Let's assume I have 2 units ( A and B ) and I give these orders :
A supports [ Anything to Anywhere ]
B moves to A
Is the support of A cancelled or not ?
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bo_sox48 (4300 D Mod (G))
Sat 18 Mar UTC
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RIP Chuck Berry
Of all the people that have influenced music in the last 60 years, from the Beatles to Muddy Waters to whoever you like, Chuck Berry will probably be the one they still talk about hundreds of years down the road. A real legend in music.
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spacecadet (373 D)
Sun 19 Mar UTC
is playing with noobs harder?
yo, i got a question.
am i the only one finding it extremely hard and frustrating playing with new players?
i am not the most experienced player in the world, but ive had my share of games and reading on the game.
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Manwe Sulimo (651 D)
Thu 16 Mar UTC
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Proposed Budget
How ridiculous is this thing???

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-idUSKBN16M1DO
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Hauta (1356 D)
Sat 18 Mar UTC
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Taxes on the rich are too low
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_tax_cuts
I've been bitching about America's high military spending compared to other countries, but as a % of GDP it has remained steady at approx 5%. Still high but...
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Djharkavy (80 D)
Sun 19 Mar UTC
American Empire 179318
American Empire
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194219
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Djharkavy (80 D)
Sun 19 Mar UTC
American Empire 179318
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194219
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Djharkavy (80 D)
Sun 19 Mar UTC
World game 170318

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194219
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Randomizer (181 D)
Thu 16 Mar UTC
Solving unemployment
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/us/white-irish-undocumented-trnd/index.html
Export those deadbeats to the US and then get the illegals to skip ahead of the line to become US citizens.
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tobyjoey (45 D)
Fri 17 Mar UTC
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World Diplomacy Map Alterations
Hello WebDiplomacy. I have a group of people are making a physical World Diplomacy map for a big event, but we have agreed the board has some problems. Most of the people weighing on this issue say they want to take away South Africa's unit in Antarctica and instead put it in Madagascar as a fleet. However, I am worried that, unless South Africa and Argentina actively worked to stop this, it would give Antarctica too many possibilities for expansion in its home continent.
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