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dobreni (1182 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
how do you think a team game wll be fair? how many teams ?
3 teams
1 Fr+En
2 Tr+Ru
3 It+Au+Ge
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2ndWhiteLine (3592 D (B))
15 Mar 17 UTC
GB 1 and 2
Since one game is stuck in pause purgatory and the other is an NMR ridden disaster, who wants to start a new round? No RR requirements but I have final say over who plays.
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gjdip (630 D)
20 Mar 17 UTC
Replacement needed F01
Russia NMR in S01. Replacement much appreciated. http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194119.
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Fluminator (324 D)
20 Mar 17 UTC
Climate Change Denial
So recently I've been considering becoming a climate change denier. What are people's thoughts on this? What would be some pros and cons to becoming one?
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Crazy Anglican (271 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
"Everyone show up for this school" EoG's
If you want to post here.
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Tastyjc7 (100 D X)
20 Mar 17 UTC
Join full web dip
I want people to join the game because it's no messaging and it's anonymous so it's just pure 1v1 with everyone! Let's see who is the best!
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Chanakya. (598 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
Why are people not playing LIVE games nowadays?
I am back after a long time. 4 years to be precise. But when I left, there used to be a lot of LIVE games all the times. Now, whenever I peek the website out of curiosity, I never find a LIVE game. I tried making rooms, but no one ever joined!

What happened here? :p
Care to brief me a bit?
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CptMike (2229 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
Does a tap on our unit cancel their support ?
Let's assume I have 2 units ( A and B ) and I give these orders :
A supports [ Anything to Anywhere ]
B moves to A
Is the support of A cancelled or not ?
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bo_sox48 (4288 D Mod (G))
18 Mar 17 UTC
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RIP Chuck Berry
Of all the people that have influenced music in the last 60 years, from the Beatles to Muddy Waters to whoever you like, Chuck Berry will probably be the one they still talk about hundreds of years down the road. A real legend in music.
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spacecadet (353 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
is playing with noobs harder?
yo, i got a question.
am i the only one finding it extremely hard and frustrating playing with new players?
i am not the most experienced player in the world, but ive had my share of games and reading on the game.
spacecadet (353 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC

i find that playing against new players is even harder than playing with experienced ones.
1. they are much less predictable. logic doesnt dictate their moves.
2. many times they fail to understand why what you are offering them is a good deal.
3. they cant be reasoned with

the game becomes a lottery of sorts where you hope the first article that guy read says he should ally himself with your country.
no debates, no diplomacy.
ive even seen some hit that mute button - in a diplomacy game!

is it just me or do you guys experience it too?
spacecadet (353 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
if i am being too vague let me elaborate:
ive come across, in a couple of current games (without giving away too much)
a situation where all of the following applies:
i fight with an ally over 1 SC, where it is clear (without bullshiting the other guy) that i should take it in a reasonable alliance.
in fact him taking it would be bad for both. but still i cannot reasonably explain to my ally WHY that is the case. whether its because he doesnt quite understand how support works (and more importantly, cut support).
or because of any other reason.
they seem to be unresponsive to commonplace suggestions.

btw, this thread wasnt meant to be a whine about "those damn noobs". just trying to figure out if anybody else has encountered this problem. and how you go about fixing it
Broadly, I experience the same thing. Have yet to figure out how to work around it
Mercy (497 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
I agree. With noobs in the game, the winner(s) will be determined in a more random way, which will decrease your chances of winning if these are normally high for you. Same with NMRs.
peterlund (1320 D (G))
19 Mar 17 UTC
In Diplomacy the winner is most often the experienced player that
1) first identify what powers on the board that are under control of noobs
2) also is the best to handle the noob psychie (listening politely turning the noob mind his way)
3) have enough of energy/stamina to handle the noob.

These 3 abilities are the ones that makes someone a great Diplomacy player.

Personally I could clearly improve my item 3 in the list above.
Deeply_Dippy (383 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
Noobs aren't the only ones to use the mute button, space cadet. And I think there needs to be a distinction drawn between those new to the game and those new to this forum.

For instance, I'm quite new to webdiplomacy but have played the game on and off for 30+ years. So the mistakes I make are (hopefully) system-led rather than rules-led.

Also, without new players the game will eventually become stale. New blood brings fresh ideas (or resurrects long forgotten ones) which is good for everyone.

And finally, 'great' diplomacy players are made not born. We all have to learn somehow and experience is the best teacher. If more experienced players take the time to share and explain then the noobs get better quicker.
captainmeme (410 D Mod)
19 Mar 17 UTC
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It's not necessarily harder. It's obviously much more difficult to solo against a bunch of good players than it is to solo against a bunch of new players.

You have to take a different approach, though. A new player is not going to immediately understand why a bounce in the Black Sea isn't hostile, or why they shouldn't stop you from taking Sweden in 01. Players who not only propose plans but also explain why they're proposing those plans do very well in games with new players. Players who just assume that everyone will understand their plans without explanation do not.
MajorMitchell (994 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
May I offer these observations.
1 all "newbies" are not "equal" in ability & experience. Some "newbies" are just new to this site & have considerable experience.
2 "illogical" / emotional play is not the monopoly of inexperienced players, I cite myself as an example.
Captain meme makes a useful point, more effort in explanations of options/ choices, with the possible consequences explained as well. Don't "proscribe" but offer choices.
As always it's about finding "common purposes" / common interests. Sometimes they will insist on a poor choice, so you have to let them make mistakes & learn from that.
Be clear from the start, you have experience & skills they do not have, and that they have to respect that. How you deliver your message is almost as important as the message. So it's a balance, get it right and they will be receptive, get it wrong...
Some newbies are worth the effort, others are not.
SirThursday (482 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
I've only been playing the game for a couple years now, so I won't pretend to be good, but I will say playing with new players has been pretty fun for me. Because I've read most of the articles, I am familiar with many "standard" openings, and new players just do what seems right for them to complete the 18-solo objective. Usually it doesn't work it for them, but t seems like playing in person, people always go for the solo, where online it seems like some people are over-eager to Draw as soon as they make a few gains in the Diplomacy points.
New players can be a hassle though, especially online. I have played a game before where I told another player it was in my best interest to keep him alive to keep another player from the solo, and he basically told me I had 4 new pieces and I could direct him as I wanted to. Easier for me to solo, certainly, but not challenging or fair to the other players anymore. I've also seen that new players aren't likely to talk much at all, especially in low-bet games. With less to lose, they just try to go it alone
Depends on the level of noob. People in their first game or three are a mess. It can sometimes be very difficult to convince them of what's actually good for them. With slightly more experienced noobs, ones that have played a few games and actually understand basic tactics and moves, it's actuslly quite easy to manipulate them. I find a good strategy is to give them more of the gains at the start, to make them more loyal. Even if they're a bit stronger, it's fine, since they aren't as capable.

spacecadet (353 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
deeply dippy: i think youve misunderstood. this post is not me trying to be arrogant against "noobs". im well aware no one starts with knowledge. and admit myself to be not very experienced.
quite the contrary: i put this post up because i keep getting my ass kicked and i dont know where im going wrong.

and i think pregrine falcon hit the nail on the head here.
though everyone made great points, i think the issue is realizing what level the noob is playing. as in:
realizing early enough how he thinks, how deeply and using that to your benefit


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Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
16 Mar 17 UTC
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Proposed Budget
How ridiculous is this thing???

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-idUSKBN16M1DO
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Hauta (1592 D (S))
18 Mar 17 UTC
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Taxes on the rich are too low
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_tax_cuts
I've been bitching about America's high military spending compared to other countries, but as a % of GDP it has remained steady at approx 5%. Still high but...
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Djharkavy (108 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
American Empire 179318
American Empire
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194219
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Djharkavy (108 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
American Empire 179318
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194219
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Djharkavy (108 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
World game 170318

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194219
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Randomizer (48 D)
16 Mar 17 UTC
Solving unemployment
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/us/white-irish-undocumented-trnd/index.html
Export those deadbeats to the US and then get the illegals to skip ahead of the line to become US citizens.
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tobyjoey (55 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
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World Diplomacy Map Alterations
Hello WebDiplomacy. I have a group of people are making a physical World Diplomacy map for a big event, but we have agreed the board has some problems. Most of the people weighing on this issue say they want to take away South Africa's unit in Antarctica and instead put it in Madagascar as a fleet. However, I am worried that, unless South Africa and Argentina actively worked to stop this, it would give Antarctica too many possibilities for expansion in its home continent.
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dobreni (1182 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
game : starting in 15 min , one more needed pls
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194176
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zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
29 Dec 16 UTC
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Official Donation Drive and Future Plans
See inside for details.
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DemonOverlord (469 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
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Petition to ban Capt Brad from full press games
Hi everyone. I'm starting a petition to ban capt brad from full press games. I love capt brad as much as the next person, but I think he's harming the integrity (or something) of the non-password protected full press community. Not only is he in 47 games, but he doesn't send press. Someone pls stop this
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brainbomb (128 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
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Ketchup or Mustard
The federal government.
HAPPY ST PATRICKS DAY FOOLZ
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ll667 (100 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
Join Mediterran Shift
You are invited
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yavuzovic (140 D)
11 Mar 17 UTC
In Holland.
What's happening? Can someone explain it?
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Limni (326 D)
15 Mar 17 UTC
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Abusive PMs
Is it possible to block someone from sending you messages? There's a user who is sending abusive PMs to a few players who played a game with him a few weeks ago.

Not that I'm exactly getting upset about being called a colossal berk, but it's annoying when you think it might be a legitimate message each time
14 replies
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Hauta (1592 D (S))
16 Mar 17 UTC
Tom Cotton (AR) to replace Paul Ryan?
Looks like Bannon is setting up Tom Cotton to replace Paul Ryan as speaker of the house. At least getting rid of Ryan is one part of #MAGA that I can get behind.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/cotton-ryan-obamacare-repeal-replace-236102
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
12 Mar 17 UTC
Sovereign rights?
I know lots of Americans talk the talk when it cones to states rights. But how do you feel about treaties signed with Indian Tribes guarenteeing their sovereignty? (What rights should they have? Where do you draw the line? - when this is happening: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58c20238e4b0d1078ca597af )
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JamesYanik (314 D)
15 Mar 17 UTC
Rachel Maddow has Trump's Tax Returns
I'm guessing an IRS leak? still, it's 9pm E.T. when America shall know
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stranger (660 D)
15 Mar 17 UTC
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The new 1v1 games are ruining the game stats
Couldn't there be a possibility to make games even more unranked - meaning that the result wouldn't even appear on your game stats?
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
15 Mar 17 UTC
John Snow born on this day!
Maybe more sig ifigant than the Ide of March: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v495/n7440/full/495169a.html?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews
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Hellfire Missile (100 D)
16 Mar 17 UTC
Fall of American Empire
Can a boat move from W coast to Los A?

Also for turns is it Spring, Aut, builds?
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