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leon1122 (183 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Trump News Conference Discussion Thread
https://youtu.be/SUyAk0bYps0
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Randomizer (181 D)
07 Jan 17 UTC
Trump wants US to pay to Build the Wall
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/border-wall-house-republicans-donald-trump-taxpayers/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion

Trump wants US to pay for his wall and then try to bill Mexico for it.
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DammmmDaniel (103 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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Obama's Farewell Speech
I am a Diehard Republican believe it or not WepDip. But Obama's speech tonight has helped me realize many things tonight......

DammmmDaniel (103 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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He was a great president. I am more than willing to put aside my political differences to acknowledge just how much Obama has contributed to this country. Whether or not we believe in the policies that he preached; that he enacted... he did it for the greater good. President Obama has done his best to help ALL Americans prosper in what he thought would be the best way possible.

In his speech tonight he put aside party differences (except for subtle jabs that would've existed anyways). He pulled together a heart wrenching speech that really helped me see just what HE was striving to accomplish as a person. it really helped me realize just why President Obama did what he did. I still am and probably always be a Republican, but Obama's speech tonight has helped me gain a new-found sense of respect for the Republican party and Obama personally.

His respect for his wife his staff and his daughters was deep and emotional. He showed that despite his 8 years in office he still found parenting to be the greatest honor ever.

The Obama that I witnessed tonight was one that may have existed from the beginning but I only saw just right now. Maybe it is the fact that this was the first president that I saw existing from office, but I really truly have gained a newfound sense of respect for the man.

I guess what I am really trying to say is that I can proudly say that I am glad that President Obama served for these past 8 years. He may not have been the president that I personally wanted but he did a damn good job.

Thoughts?Opinions?
leon1122 (183 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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#fuckObama
WyattS14 (8 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Very constructed speech. Well done Leon. I am impressed... an obvious step up from your other posts
leon1122 (183 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Behind that mask of charisma is a dark and evil heart.
DemonOverlord (522 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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leon said DARK, just because he's black. smh. racist
WyattS14 (8 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
How dare you bring up a color in a WebDip thread. This deserves an instant ban
DammmmDaniel (103 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Mods I want to report Leon on the grounds of racism please.
On a more serious note why do my threads always serve as a rallying point for immaturity....
I <3 it
slypups (892 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Nice thoughts DD, giving respect to an impressive leader. Although I'm not a Trump fan, I hope he can do the same to move the country forward and improve the lot of Americans overall. Not optimistic, but still hoping he'll succeed.
DammmmDaniel (103 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Really enjoyed the part about how it is essential for former presidents to help new presidents into office regardless of parties (he mentioned bush helping him in)
And Slypups even though I identify from a different party I respect Bipartisan efforts and good leaders overall. Obama has championed what is best for the people and I can honestly respect and agree with actions like that. He also has great leadership skills which are hard to miss.
Tyran (938 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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A dark and evil heart. Completely unlike our next president who has never stiffed hard working people of pay desperately needed to feed their family. Or assaulted multiple women. Or had 3 marriages. At least he's not a lizard muslim. Smfh.
SantaClausowitz (288 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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I thought the speech could have been better. The best farewell addresses delve into difficult, controversial, truths that implicate the speaker as much as the audience. They are the speeches we remember, not because they were civil, but because they are raw and honest. The two most memorable ones? Washington's entangling alliances, Eisenhowers military industrial complex. This was not that speech, it could have been, and probably should have been.
Jeff Kuta (2145 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Obama delivered a great farewell speech. He did not need to warn us of the growing dangers we face like Washington or Eisenhower. Those are obvious.

The American people needed something else right now. So Obama ended where he began: With a message of HOPE.
Tolstoy (2033 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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There's no denying Obama is a fantastic speech-reader, but there's also no denying he has been the second-worst president of this century.

The only positives in his eight years at the helm were some uplifting speeches and normalizing relations with Cuba. Aside from that, all he did was perpetuate all the worst policies of Bush II - endless wars, uncontrolled debt, hundreds of billions of dollars in graft disappearing into the hands of God knows who, a totalitarian police state that claims the legal right to murder its own citizens, extralegal prisons where people are held indefinitely without trial, destabilized an entire region resulting in the deaths of millions of people, armed American police better than most third-world militaries and then wondered why they're killing so many people, sicced federal "regulators" on businesses that failed to support him, had the IRS target political opponents, did nothing as his top officials lied to congress and the public over and over, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera...

And on top of that, he drove health care costs through the roof with Obamacare - giving us all the worst of both socialist and semi-capitalist health care systems, and requiring all Americans to pay a penalty for the heinous crime of existing.

Thanks, Obama. The saddest thing about you is that kids like Daniel think you're great, because you're the least terrible president they've ever known.
Tolstoy (2033 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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"This was not that speech, it could have been, and probably should have been."

Obama is too consumed by the narcissism of his generation to do something like that. Good leaders come from hard times, our last three presidents all missed out on those.
VashtaNeurotic (1039 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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"Second worst president of this century", so the best president of this century...got it
Tyran (938 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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Just wait 4 years. He will be the third worst of the century.
bo_sox48 (4300 D Mod (G))
11 Jan 17 UTC
Bill Clinton was the President for like a few weeks into the century.
Tolstoy (2033 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
"so the best president of this century...got it"

Haha, you're so clever... not.

If you think being not quite as bad as Dubya is something to be proud of, you are part of the problem.
JamesYanik (297 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
BAD: Smug man, not caring about any unification
GOOD: Economy has improved in the last 8 years
BAD: Gives zero shits about debt and has hurt our economy for years to come
GOOD: Symbol of peace in the world
BAD: By pulling out on any threat he gives foreign leaders. Also Benghazi. And ISIS's rise to prominence. And red line in Syria. And not inviting Israel to anti-terror conferences, but inviting Turkey. And leaking Israel strategies from state office. And seeing ZERO connection between Islam and Terrorist motives. At all. Not even 1%.
GOOD: Equality in gay rights!!!
BAD: By violating states rights, and also forcing churches to do ceremonies, and also... there's still gay discrimination in 39 (i think it is) states. so yeah
GOOD: socialized healthcare...! (is this good???)
BAD: Gives zero shits about debt and has- wait I typed this already. Oh.
GOOD: first black President!!!
BAD: led to first Orange President

end on GOOD:

he's at his end ;)
Randomizer (181 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Reagan - Turned tail and fled Lebanon at first major terrorist bombing, traded arms for hostages with Iran - showed the MidEast that the US would cave in at the first sign of trouble. Also his CIA hired Osama bin Ladin.

Bush I - Explained to Saddam Huissen how US spy satellites worked - Made it possible to hide during Gulf War I.

Clinton - Got the budget to run a surplus, increased US business sales abroad

Bush II - Got us bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan
Jeff Kuta (2145 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
I frequently visit another website, Fark.com. One person there posted a great list of Obama's accomplishments in the comments thread regarding last night's farewell address. There's a link to it below. The comment by "hugram" (#15) has a lot of information.

Maybe it will put Obama's presidency into better perspective for people with an open mind.

http://www.fark.com/comments/9434748/The-greatest-president-of-millennium-gives-his-farewell-speech-in-Chicago-He-turned-country-around-after-8-years-of-recession-war-Its-your-Official-President-Barack-Obama-Farewell-Address-Discussion-Thread-9PM-ET-on-all-networks
JamesYanik (297 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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@Randomizer

government surplus, but DEBT DEFICIT. The way they measured gov't holdings was different back then. over Clinton's 4 years, the national debt GREW.

http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

I'm not all the hateful on Bill, but this idea that he helped our economy is getting out of hand. seriously.

Also he smoked pot and fucked secretaries. of course Hillary was his wife, so I dont blame him for either one.
JamesYanik (297 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/23/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-says-his-administration-paid-down-deb/

for some reason, debt you owe to yourself, and PAY interest on. doesn't count as "normal" debt. it's bullshit. MOST of our debt we owe to ourselves, which is STILL A PROBLEM.
JamesYanik (297 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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@JK

I saw the charts, YOU THINK THAT WAS ALL OBAMA?

WHAT?

WHAT?

He isn't the entire arbiter of our economy, he is a part of fiscal policy, and he hasn't one well there. What, did you think there WASN'T going to be a recovery after 2008, and Obama is the ONLY reason we went back up??? bullshit. he did get us some stimulus boosts, but he's caused quite a bit of damage. Employee price index is going VERY high. Where's THAT?

whatever. see what you want
DammmmDaniel (103 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Shoot all this debate is bringing the Red out of me... Come on guys lets give the man a little respect... Running a nation isn't the easiest job out there. He deserves some credit. Sure he made some mistakes but didn't every president do so?
JamesYanik (297 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Oh.

relative to other Presidents I'm giving him a 7/10
JECE (1072 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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Tolstoy: No, you're part of the problem. The first half of your rant made harsh, valid critiques that those in the left make. You could have continued by accusing Obama with harsh realities like extending the Bush tax cuts. Instead you delve into the world of conspiratorial Fox News fantasy with accusations that the Obama administration manipulated regulators and the IRS.

We need to be honest with ourselves about where the Democratic establishment has failed us if we don't want to be stuck with maniacs like Trump for years to come.
MajorMitchell (1038 D)
13 Jan 17 UTC
Firstly I'll bet pal Putin is laughing all the way from Kremlin to Swiss banks. He could probably buy the "Trump financial Empire" with chump change from his $US 40+ billion private fortune.
It'll definitely be interesting to see how the Republican party in full.control of Congress and Senate & Trump go over the next four.( or eight years ?) and how that plays out.
For example, after say two years of Trump, is there a response at State level, will elections for state governors show a continuation of support from Republicans or will there be a swing to the Democrats at that level, or with the big city councils...the levels below Federal might be where the Democrats have to build strength in before recovering at the Federal level ?
slypups (892 D)
13 Jan 17 UTC
Expecting the Trump formula to play out: lots of bluster and looks good in the short run (midterm elections), but bankrupts everything in the end (maybe in time for 2020).


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Chaqa (2869 D (B))
06 Jan 17 UTC
Going Away Game for the World Map
I wasn't a huge fan of it, but we should do a going away game for the World Map, similar to the Inaugural Known World 901 game we're running. Same deal, we get a mod to make the game the last one before they officially shut it off.
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slypups (892 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Bug in attempted Known World move
This game: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=187862
Attempted Daju to Makuran with Al-Qatta'i support. Somehow, the support is showing as cut, even though no unit attacked Al-Qatta'i. Also, the orders page is showing an error. Please help.
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The Diplomancer (100 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Is it just me, or is it dumb that you can retreat into other people's territory?
I know it's the rules of the game and all, but I feel like it would make more sense if you could only retreat into your own territory or neutral territory.
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slypups (892 D)
04 Jan 17 UTC
So Long World Diplomacy IX
As some of you may have heard, the flawed World Dip IX map is going away. I made a game if you're interested in taking a final swing at this sucker: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=188080
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breaca (433 D (S))
12 Jan 17 UTC
Which is more balanced 1-1?
How are the two 1-1s shaping up in terms of balance? The consensus on AvF seems to be that Austria usually wins. What about IvG? Do we have any stats to suggest which is a more balanced match?
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ssorenn (2588 D (G))
12 Jan 17 UTC
Press between two countries
Is there a way to pull past press between two countries without going through everyone's.
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Chaqa (2869 D (B))
11 Jan 17 UTC
Concede button for 1v1
We need a concede button on the 1v1 games.
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DammmmDaniel (103 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
Call-Me-A-Dirty-So-N-So Legacy Edition!!!
Hey Kiddos someone has to carry Krellin's weight around here! Join up for the greatest So-N-So game yet!!!! No safe spaces,no bitching or crying allowed! Leave your feelings at the sign up button because they will get destroyed!!! We need to continue the legacy of helping bring people closer together via insults!!
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lamson (123 D (B))
10 Jan 17 UTC
New game, no join button?
Hello, I have an issue setting up a game for those I work with and was wondering if any of you have experienced it also. Trying to use the KW901 map. More in reply.
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Peregrine Falcon (1272 D Mod (B))
10 Jan 17 UTC
Soloing with less than 18 SC?
I'm curious if the above is possible. More below.
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CptMike (2044 D)
10 Jan 17 UTC
world IX
Hello guys. I have a question about this variant:
* http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/w/world8-2.gif
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CptMike (2044 D)
08 Jan 17 UTC
Convoy to bypass
Hello. I have a technical question.
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Chaqa (2869 D (B))
10 Jan 17 UTC
Known World Gunboat
gameID=188752

I've made a Gunboat game for the new map. Tried to make it be 901 point pot, but gotta go with 900, close enough. Let's play this thing.
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WyattS14 (8 D)
10 Jan 17 UTC
Med game, small pot
Made a Mediterranean game, feel free to join.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=188710
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Ezio (1361 D)
10 Jan 17 UTC
Game analysis
I figured we should have a thread where people who have questions about specific games can post them and ask. I got this idea quite selfishly:
gameID=188647
What could I have done better in this game as Germany?
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glo2018 (769 D)
09 Jan 17 UTC
opening moves Austra and France 1v1
what do yall think are the best 1st year moves for the 1v1 Austria and France?
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WyattS14 (8 D)
09 Jan 17 UTC
Split Diplomat
Does anyone know if Split still plays? He's the #1 ranked player, I believe he has over 100,000 points
15 replies
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CommanderByron (428 D (S))
09 Jan 17 UTC
unranked??
do unranked count for/against RR??
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ssorenn (2588 D (G))
04 Jan 17 UTC
gunboat anyone?
1-3 games
dss, 36 hour

please ready if at all possible
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Matticus13 (1167 D)
08 Jan 17 UTC
Known World 901 quirk:
I'm currently participating in two ongoing games on the new world map. 15 different empires to start, so I should have a 1/15 odds of drawing any empire. I drew the same empire twice in a row... That should be a 1/225 occurrence if the draws were random, or even less if it weights other empires higher after I've drawn that specific empire (to increase variety, which I believe mods have confirmed happens, at least in Classic). Should I play the lottery, or is this a bug?
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JEccles (532 D)
05 Jan 17 UTC
A learning experience
I am looking for 6 people with 80%RR or higher to play against me in a "classroom" game of sorts. I'm going to be mentored by an undisclosed mod during the game, and I would like some good competition for this round. Game ID is below.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=188124
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Hellfire Missile (30 D)
09 Jan 17 UTC
How does claiming SC's and territories work
I move over a country and sometimes it claims and sometimes it doesnt

how does it work? It's made me mess up a couple times because i didnt factor this weird thing in
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Ezio (1361 D)
08 Jan 17 UTC
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aaron rodgers is a god
the title is a fact
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Jamiet99uk (102 D (B))
07 Jan 17 UTC
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God banned from Facebook
https://www.good.is/articles/facebook-bans-god

I hope webDip does not follow suit. I am always interested to hear what our almighty creator, the ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority, has to say.
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slypups (892 D)
09 Jan 17 UTC
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Separate stats on 1v1 games
The 1v1 games have pretty different dynamics from the other games. Would be interesting to see 1v1 stats separate from the rest. What do people think?
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zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
01 Jan 17 UTC
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Invitational games by yours truly
Details inside.
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OB_Gyn_Kenobi (60 D)
08 Jan 17 UTC
1v1 practice
gameID=188460
Live
Anyone welcome.
You NMR and I'll send you a rotting fish in the mail.
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