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MoscowFleet (129 D)
02 Oct 16 UTC
MLB Playoffs
Well fellas, we're down to the last day. The Mariners' drought continues, the Cards continue to somehow stay in it, the Jays thank the Lord finally get a win to push them to the #1 spot. The Nats also clinched home field advantage over the Dodgers.

Any WS predictions? Is it really the Cubs' year? Can the Dodgers finally make it? Who's going to surprise? My money is on the Jays duelling it out with the Giants, but of course I have a strong bias. What do you all think?
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brainbomb (295 D)
31 Oct 16 UTC
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If the election were today...
http://www.270towin.com/maps/3nY92
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Oct 16 UTC
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Live Game Tournament - Results and Feedback
The inaugural webDiplomacy Live Game Tournament has finished! See inside for more.
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Yoyoyozo (95 D)
02 Nov 16 UTC
Nihilist webDiplomacy
No matter if you 2-way, 3-way, or however you draw, you're going to die solo.

Play wedDip.
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Nov 16 UTC
nanowrimo
National Novel Writing Month
http://nanowrimo.org/

Who's in? What's your topic, passion or ploy?
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Red-Lion (382 D)
29 Oct 16 UTC
Camptown Girls
gameID=184750

I teared up a little when I realized that Italy was going to give his partner, Austria, a piece of the pie instead of soloing. There are happy endings in Diplomacy after all!
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Durga (3609 D)
19 Oct 16 UTC
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Let's fight
Hi friends, I'm looking to play a FP DSS semi-anon game with 2 day phases. Anyone down??

ps: pls don't sign up if you don't send press I can't stand that shit
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Deinodon (379 D(B))
20 Sep 16 UTC
webDiplomacy continues to lose players
The number of players listed each month in the Ghostratings continues to decline. Every year, there is a peak around May/June. We peaked in 2011 with 3,571 players, and steadily lost players from then to now (if you don't count the 2013-2014 inflated numbers anomaly). This last May peak we hit 2,503. At this rate, I figure there will be seven of us left in 2029.
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Frostweaver (80 DX)
25 Oct 16 UTC
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Frostweaver's Personal Comments on Live Gunboat-483
Just a note: I'm not playing in the game, just spectating and inputting my personal comments on the game's moves.

Classic opening moves were made by all countries - except for Turkey. Seems Turkey is susceptible to Russian retaliation from the Black Sea. Also quite interesting how Britain and France strayed away from the English Channel.
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reedeer1 (100 D)
31 Oct 16 UTC
College Essays
My early decision applications are due tomorrow! Help!
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Yoyoyozo (95 D)
29 Oct 16 UTC
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IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO GUNBOAT. DONT
Just don't. PSA over.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
28 Oct 16 UTC
Oregon Standoff Defendants Acquitted
Once in awhile, the system works.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/27/us/oregon-standoff-ammon-bundy-acquittal/index.html
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guak (3381 D)
29 Oct 16 UTC
Deep Learning
So, how long until we get a machine that can kick our asses at Diplomacy? Will AI be forced to play only gunboat games, or can it do full press too? Discuss
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captainmeme (1632 DMod)
13 Oct 16 UTC
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Petition to Introduce Chaos
The variant on the classic map where every center is a different player.

Sign this thread if you think it should be brought to webDip!
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Looking for a couple more to join a game:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=184890
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
29 Oct 16 UTC
Needs two more! gameID=184565
See title! Join up.
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Jon65 (112 D)
31 Oct 16 UTC
making sure I'm avoiding meta gaming
I'm wanting tk play with friends from IRL on here as well as existing people on here
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
28 Oct 16 UTC
New player, friend of mine, looking for game
hey everyone, because I'm sexy I got a coworker of mine to make an account and play with me. Has nothing to do with the fact that he reports to me. He is userID=82252


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ND (879 D)
27 Oct 16 UTC
U.S. Hysteria
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-putin-idUSKCN12R1W6

Thoughts?
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Ikaneko (113 D)
31 Oct 16 UTC
Facebook Diplomacy
I've discovered a bot that allows you to play chess on a Facebook Chat page using algebraic notation. Could someone conceivably create a Diplomacy adjudicator for a Facebook chat page? It might make Diplomacy more accessible as you can easily play with your friends without worrying for phase length, pauses etc. Would this be in any way possible? It's just a thought.
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TrPrado (461 D)
30 Oct 16 UTC
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I Predict
As the years go on, as millennials come to player a more important role in the world as politicians...
The waistcoat will once again be fashionable for politicians to wear.
Thoughts?
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IcyDragon (0 DX)
31 Oct 16 UTC
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Frostweaver is banned.
Thanks for multi-accounting or meta-gaming man.
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hope (419 D)
30 Oct 16 UTC
Trumps Wicked Kids
At first I thought Trump was alright, but after I looked at this I just cant vote for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4Mi4ocyDw
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leon1122 (190 D)
30 Oct 16 UTC
Violent [censored political group name] and corrupt LAPD
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/los-angeles-homeless-woman-posts-video-protecting-trump-walk-of-fame-star/
Violent ________ attack an African American woman supporting Trump and calling for deportation of illegal immigrants. LAPD blames victim, saying she "incited" them.
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CarlVonClausewitz (0 DX)
28 Oct 16 UTC
Rule Clarification - Absent Players
Could somebody please clarify the rules relating to a player leaving a game. How do attacked units retreat, or are they simply disbanded? When is a new player invited to take over and at what point in the turn (e.g. is it always after the build phase)?
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brainbomb (295 D)
26 Oct 16 UTC
Flagrant examples of election fraud
https://www.buzzfeed.com/qsahmed/the-10-most-gerrymandered-districts-in-america-dh45?utm_term=.yb2ozLooj#.spgn4PnnL
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The Ambassador (129 D)
21 Oct 16 UTC
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2012 WebDip World Cup championship podcast interview
We all know and love this mammoth effort culminating in 104 years of gampeplay (http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=93086) - now you can hear Goldfinger, Leif and JECE's take in our podcast interview at DiplomacyGames.com, iTunes and Stiticher. Enjoy!
JECE (1322 D)
21 Oct 16 UTC
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Great! I'll take a look.
The Hanged Man (4160 D(G))
21 Oct 16 UTC
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What the heck? Exclusion of the fourth team involved in the eventual 4wd, which went on to win the World Cup? Conspiracy.
JECE (1322 D)
21 Oct 16 UTC
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The Hanged Man: True. Let us know what you think. :-)
The Hanged Man (4160 D(G))
21 Oct 16 UTC
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It was a good interview. And fair to have just you three, since you played the whole game start to finish.
ghug (5068 D(B))
21 Oct 16 UTC
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You didn't win. You were disqualified for breaking substitution rules. Including you would be scandalous.
The Ambassador (129 D)
21 Oct 16 UTC
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Dear me folks... it was hard enough getting 3 of the players together, 4 would've been impossible. As it is my partner in crime, kaner, missed out.
Leif_Syverson (271 D)
21 Oct 16 UTC
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@ THM, definitely interested in hearing your take/rebuttal.
The Hanged Man (4160 D(G))
21 Oct 16 UTC
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I don't have any disagreement with the opinions stated, so no need for rebuttal. I do have some thoughts, if I can remember them.

First, hat tip to my former teammate Mujus, who was the original Italy and played the first seventy-odd years of the game. That already exceeded the previous record for longest game. Mujus committed 3+ years of real life to the game, and simply reached the point of exhaustion (indeed, he no longer is active here). He brought Italy back from one SC to a viable position for me to take over. At that point, California already had used two subs and the TD was AWOL. As noted on the podcast, the remaining players were agreeable to Mujus (semi-anon, but by then everyone knew he was Italy) being replaced by an unspecified teammate rather than picking up a stranger off the street and throwing him into this historic game.

I agree the chief contributors to the extraordinary length of the game were (1) the fact that it was the last WC game and tournament-determinative; (2) the remarkable resolve of the players to commit to their individual win situation as the only acceptable outcome; (3) the variety and inconsistency of the players' individual win situations; and (4) the public press nature.

My team California had the tournament lead with only the PP game to go. As long as JECE/Russia/Iberia did not solo, we were going to win the tournament (JECE said on the podcast that he also needed Italy eliminated, which I had not figured out). While I was playing, I thought a solo by goldfinger0303/Russia/Mid-Atlantic also might win the tournament for his team. I thought a solo by Leif Syverson/Germany/Texas was a "safe" result that would still result in a California tournament win, but I wasn't actually sure which team was playing Germany. That was more inference from the in-game chatter by the other players. Because of all that, my main goal (and Mujus' before me) was to have the game end in a draw. If it had to be a solo, it needed to be a German solo. The interesting wrinkle was that Italy did not have to survive. Therefore, a RGA 3wd was an acceptable outcome for me. It was unusual trying to play for a result that did not have to include my survival.

When I joined in the 1970s, I identified JECE/Russia as my nemesis. He was the holdout on prior draws because he would only accept a Russian solo outcome. Therefore, my main strategy was to undermine Russia both in terms of board position and socially on the global press. If Russia were eliminated, I thought the game would end as a GAI draw. Once there were only three powers left, I thought the players were strong enough that any two should be able to stop the third from a solo.

On the board, I tried to counter JECE's strategy of maintaining control over Scandinavia and Anatolia. I tried to create conditions where I could encourage Germany to take Russia out in the north. If JECE ever lost StP, I thought his solo aspirations would be over. I also tried to create conditions where I could encourage Austria to take Russia out in Anatolia, or more likely split it with me.

I kept control of Austria by making sure he never built fleets. One time he tried to slip a fleet build in. It didn't hurt the joint AI position on the board, but it incrementally increased his potential for a solo. In a normal game, I might have been irritated but would have continued working with him. Because of the tournament format/win condition, I instead threw everything at him to make sure that it was clear he would never solo, even if I died in the process (since a 3wd excluding Italy was acceptable). Austria couldn't make progress against me without exposing himself to Russia, and eventually he had to disband his fleets. With no fleets, he was no solo threat and I controlled the entire Med.

Gibraltar was a key location. One of Germany's solo pushes came when I was playing. Because I controlled the Med, I had the ability to hold Gibraltar and shut Germany out, or conversely to let him into the Med to allow the solo. That gave me leverage against Austria and Russia, since a German solo was an acceptable outcome for me and not them.

Despite the fact that I only needed the game to end in a draw, and not even necessarily including me, I almost soloed. Germany and I were working together smoothly toward the elimination of Russia and we had a peaceful, stable arrangement around the English island. I don't remember if Leif NMR'd or we had a miscommunication, but the result was that my fleets around the island got into an advantageous position that I didn't intend. I was able to use that advantage to stab Germany and storm the Atlantic, eventually getting up to 16 centers. I thought it would be an exciting finish to the historic game if I could solo, but I wasn't able to pull it off.

I don't think the WC format came across clearly on the podcast. To me, it sounded like there was one prior game needed to get to the final round. There was one preliminary round (group stage, which goldfinger0303 did say). But the preliminary round was made up of two full press games, two gunboat games, and one public press game. The teams' composite scores from all of those preliminary games dictated who made it into the final round. The final round then repeated the same array of games. So by the time the PP game was the last of the tournament, there had been 15 games played in the preliminary round (of which each Final team played in 5) and four completed games in the Final round (of which each Final played in all).

Lastly, ghug is like Gollum, creeping around in his rainy Seattle cave of bitterness and dreaming about the Precious who got away. Someday he'll bite my finger off as he falls into the volcano.
JECE (1322 D)
21 Oct 16 UTC
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The Hanged Man: 'If I can remember is key', ha ha.

Looking back at analysis I sent my teammates on 20 December 2012 (the constant communication with teammates is one of many distinguishing features of the game we couldn't get to in the podcast), at least by late 1917 it was already clear that any Russian win would grab Iberia the tournamnet win. I made a mistake in the podcast. So no, I didn't need to eliminate you:
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I haven't checked those numbers myself to see if they add up. But as you can see, my game is the only one left and we can only win the World Cup if I win it (438 points). If I manage to get my game down to a 2-way draw (227 points), we will fall short by over 100 points and come in 2nd place. Because Kompole of the Balkans was eliminated in my game, Iberia will come in 2nd place the moment I agree to any draw of the game (the minimum 71 points we would get from a 6-way draw would put us above the Balkans).

The only two teams that can still win the world cup are "California I" and Iberia; the Californians have a distinct advantage. Even so, overall this is good news! In the last (and first) edition of the World Cup, we finished 3rd. San Diego (the old California I) had finished 5th in the last World Cup.
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JECE (1322 D)
21 Oct 16 UTC
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The Hanged Man: As for the World Cup format, I agree that we didn't explain it very well. By two games we meant that each individual player in the Finals has only played one game.

The Ambassador: Very interesting editing (interesting maybe just because I haven't been interviewed before, ha ha). Apart from having to recreate some of the questions you asked us, I notice you also shaved on content slightly and rearraned the order of some of the questions/responses. I appreciate the effort you put into making the podcast more cohesive and logical. The intro and concluding remarks you made with kaner406 also added to the interview. The sound quality actually came out pretty good to my ears.
Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
22 Oct 16 UTC
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I had didn't know this game occurred and was blown away when I clicked the link and saw 2005. Thanks for putting the pod together I enjoyed it.
The Ambassador (129 D)
22 Oct 16 UTC
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Thanks TheHangedMan and JECE for your follow up comments.

And thanks General Lee for your support. Glad you guys liked the podcast!
JECE (1322 D)
24 Oct 16 UTC
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You joined webDiplomacy less than two weeks after this game started and somehow missed this, ha ha? The game ran for almost the entire time you've been on this website, with a Forum thread pertaining to the game (and tournament of which the game was a a part) continuously getting bumped to the first page all those years.
JECE (1322 D)
24 Oct 16 UTC
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That was to Gen. Lee, of course.
Tasnica (3366 D)
24 Oct 16 UTC
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Neat interview! It was definitely a great game to watch.
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
24 Oct 16 UTC
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I love your guys podcasts they now have a spot among the greats of my podcast feed.
Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
24 Oct 16 UTC
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I must have muted a long time ago or something lol.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Oct 16 UTC
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Oh, Gen, you probably haven't noticed since you come back. We now have a webDip Premium membership. It's only 25 USD/year and it comes with a bunch of cool perks, including access to our monthly podcast.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Oct 16 UTC
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Simply send me your Chase banking info and I'll sign you up
JECE (1322 D)
26 Oct 16 UTC
In case anyone is curious, here is a better URL for the previous record-holder:
http://www.floc.net/observer.py?judge=USTR&game=vgnp4127&page=game

It's interesting that that was also a tournament game. But crucially, this was a no press game! That maybe adds a nuance to our theory that public press contributed to the runtime of our game.

None of the players in that game finished in the top 3 of what appears to have been a large tournament:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080107230445/http://doug.obscurestuff.com/vgnp04.html
The Ambassador (129 D)
28 Oct 16 UTC
Valis are you in Nigeria?

@CommanderByron - thanks mate :-)


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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
24 Oct 16 UTC
Winter is coming - time for a game
After a summer hiatus -living the good life away from my PC- I'd like to set up a game to keep me busy during the cold winter months. Are there more out there?
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Condescension (10 D)
28 Oct 16 UTC
Is development ongoing?
I've noticed that the development forum is inactive and that the github hasn't had any changes in months. Is it still being developed, and can new devs join?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
27 Oct 16 UTC
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Criticising the media
What the hell is the deal with focusing on female public figure's clothes/fashion shit? Britian and Scotland have female heads of government, why would i care about what shoes they are wearing??

https://www.indy100.com/article/sun-headline-theresa-may-nicola-sturgeon-correction-everyday-sexism-7382731
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