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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
New Ultra Slow (10-day) Full Press Classic Game
Going to start an ultra-slow game. Classic, anon, full press, WTA.
Cost: 101 D, and player must have 500+ total points.
I'll set it up with password when I have 7 players.
11 replies
Open
Sevyas (973 D)
10 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
4 in a ...
Anyone up for a game? If so, post here an here only ;-)
228 replies
Open
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
Mutual Antagonism for Solo Victories
I think there need to be more solo victories. It's worth researching who your best statistical allies are beforehand.

http://www.diplom.org/Zine/F2007R/Burton/statistician3.htm
11 replies
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
22 Dec 14 UTC
Nanar
For those of you unfamiliar with the term, Nanar basically means that something is so bad it's good. The purpose of this thread is to share works (movies, tv series, etc...) that are so bad they are good so we can all enjoy a hearty laugh. I will start by suggesting INFERNO COP! a roughly 40 minute long web series which fits this idea so well. From the Beginning: http://tinyurl.com/qfgz62j
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
14 Dec 14 UTC
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Greatest People in History Tournament - now with Instant Runoff Voting!
In an effort to determine the forum's ultimate winners for this contest in a reasonable amount of time, this thread will utilize IRV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting) to determine the champions in each category.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
14 Dec 14 UTC
To participate, simply list your choices for each list in order of preference thusly:

Favorite Ice Cream Flavor:
1) Chocolate
2) Strawberry
3) Vanilla
4) ...
5) ...

You do not have to list/vote for all 32 for each category. List only those you feel deserve to win; if all of your choices are eliminated during the counting process, your final vote would be for "None of the Above". Polling will close in one week, at 4PM Pacific Time on Sunday the 21st of December, 2014, at which time I (or someone more ambitious than I am - an IRV tabulating program would be a great project for an undergrad computer science student, hint hint) will tabulate the votes and determine the winner.

Just so you don't have to switch over to the other threads, here are the lists of candidates:

Leaders:
1. Tokugawa
2. Elizabeth I
3. Charlemagne
4. Theodora
5. Isabella I
6. George Washington
7. Gandhi
8. Muhammad
9. Cincinnatus
10. Augustus Caesar
11. Peter the Great
12. Otto von Bismarck
13. Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
14. Theodore Roosevelt
15. Olga of Kiev
16. Alaric I
17. Winston Churchill
18. Joan of Arc
19. Napoleon Bonaparte
20. Erwin Rommel
21. Deng Xiaoping
22. Alfred the Great
23. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
24. Alexander the Great
25. Winfield Scott
26. Tamerlane
27. Genghis Khan
28. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
29. Nelson Mandela
30. Margaret Thatcher
31. Hannibal
32. Adolf Hitler

Artists:
1. The Beatles
2. Bob Dylan
3. Sappho
4. George R. R. Martin
5. Harriet Beecher Stowe
6. Vincent Van Gogh
7. Giotto di Bondone
8. Salvador Dali
9. Robert A. Heinlein
10. Lao Tzu
11. Vergil
12. Franz Liszt
13. Eminem
14. Pablo Picasso
15. Lord Byron
16. Michaelangelo
17. Fyodor Dostoyevsky
18. Janis Joplin
19. Henry David Thoreau
20. Raphael
21. Kanye West
22. Pyotr Tchaikovsky
23. Homer
24. Raymond Carver
25. Arnold Schoenberg
26. William Shakespeare
27. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
28. Johann Sebastian Bach
29. Rivers Cuomo
30. Randall Munroe
31. Claude Monet
32. J.R.R. Tolkien

Scientists/Inventors:
1. Thomas Kuhn
2. Edward Teller
3. Alan Turing
4. Leonardo da Vinci
5. Isaac Newton
6. Aristotle
7. Copernicus
8. Marie Curie
9. Nikola Tesla
10. Norman Borlaug
11. Thomas Edison
12. Archimedes
13. Albert Einstein
14. Jonas Salk
15. Gregor Mendel
16. Johannes Gutenberg
17. David Suzuki
18. Rosalind Franklin
19. Carl Bosch
20. Richard Feynman
21. Robert Oppenheimer
22. Gotthold Eisenstein
23. Avicenna
24. Charles Darwin
25. Stephen Hawking
26. Galileo Galilei
27. Sigmund Freud
28. James Watt
29. Werner von Braun
30. Jane Goodall
31. James Joule
32. Mendeleev

Wild Card:
1. Buddha
2. Constantine
3. Martin Luther
4. Richard Dawkins
5. Malcolm X
6. Karl Marx
7. Gottfried Leibniz
8. Emma Watson
9. Saul of Tarsus
10. Jesus
11. Rene Descartes
12. Noam Chomsky
13. JP Morgan
14. Andrew Carnegie
15. Martin Luther King, Jr.
16. Plato
17. Alfred Nobel
18. John Locke
19. Billy Waugh
20. Khalid ibn al-Walid
21. Frederick Rogers
22. Niccolo di Bernardo dei Machiavelli
23. Mansa Musa
24. Immanuel Kant
25. Jan Hus
26. Adam Smith
27. Bill Gates
28. Gichin Funakoshi
29. Benjamin Franklin
30. Susan B. Anthony
31. Socrates
32. Mother Teresa
VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
14 Dec 14 UTC
(+3)
But this takes all the fun out of arguing.
ghug (5068 D(B))
14 Dec 14 UTC
You're missing the point here Tolstoy. Also, "thusly" is not a word.

Thank you for your understanding.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
14 Dec 14 UTC
Here's my ballot:
Leaders:
1) Hannibal
2) Alexander the Great
3) Napoleon Bonaparte
4) Genghis Khan
5) Elizabeth I
6) George Washington
7) Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
8) Augustus Caesar
9) Gandhi
10) Tokugawa

Artists:
1) Johann Sebastian Bach
2) Michaelangelo

Scientists/Inventors:
1) Isaac Newton
2) Avicenna
3) Leonardo da Vinci
4) Nikola Tesla
5) Alan Turing

Wild Card:
1) Khalid ibn al-Walid
2) Saul of Tarsus
3) Buddha
4) Martin Luther
5) Plato
6) Adam Smith
Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
14 Dec 14 UTC
Fuck ghug, this is a perfectly good way of doing it. Here are my votes:

Leaders:
1. Otto von Bismarck
2. Alexander the Great
3. Nelson Mandela
4. Napoleon Bonaparte
5. Hannibal
6. Joan of Arc

Artists:
1. Rivers Cuomo
2. Johann Sebastian Bach
3. Michaelangelo
4. Pyotr Tchaikovsky
5. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
6. Salvador Dali
7. Robert A. Heinlein
8. The Beatles
9. Bob Dylan
10. Franz Liszt
11. Fyodor Dostoyevsky
12. Janis Joplin
13. Randall Munroe
14. J.R.R. Tolkien

Scientists/Inventors:
1. Leonardo da Vinci
2. Nikola Tesla
3. Isaac Newton
4. Aristotle
5. Copernicus
6. Marie Curie
7. Archimedes
8. Albert Einstein
9. Richard Feynman
10. Charles Darwin
11. Stephen Hawking
12. Galileo Galilei
13. James Watt
14. Jane Goodall
15. Sigmund Freud

Wild Card:
1. Karl Marx
2. Malcolm X
3. Emma Watson
4. Noam Chomsky
5. Martin Luther King, Jr.
6. Niccolo di Bernardo dei Machiavelli

TrPrado (461 D)
14 Dec 14 UTC
You have really interesting preferences. Strange that Jesus didn't make higher up on that list. Or that Genghis Khan is so low.
TrPrado (461 D)
14 Dec 14 UTC
Oh, ha, that was before either of you two posted. It would have been a good joke, dammit.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
14 Dec 14 UTC
We could still use this as a predictor of the actual compertition:

1.)FDR
2.)Ghengis Khan
3.)George Washington
4.)Nelson Mandela
5.)Hitler
6.)Margaret Thatcher


1.) Franz Liszt
2.) Shakespeare
3.) Van Gogh
4.) Schoenburg

1.) James Watt
2.) Einstein
3.) Tesla
4.) Newton

1.) Alfred Nobel
2.) MLK Jr.
3.) Bill Gates
4.) Adam Smith


ghug (5068 D(B))
15 Dec 14 UTC
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@Jamie, the point isn't to get an accurate list, it's to spend months arguing about randomly chosen matchups in each round.
VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
Let me clarify my above post. First off, regrettably, I find myself in agreement with ghug. The point of these "Greatest Whatever" tournaments is not just about determining who is the greatest whatever, if that was so your method would be considered much more effective than a tournament, it is about the journey. Participating in the tournament is all about arguing for your favorites, whether they be musicians, authors, world leaders, etc... and watching them go through the tournament, anticipating every vote, defending them every chance you get with the hope that they can make it one round further. Sure, we can just rank our preferences and let tabulation take care of the rest, but that method is so much less personal, and somewhat boring. However the Bracket affords tension, with Bismarck facing off against Peter the Great, Muhammad facing off against Jesus, and the like. It allows for upsets, Cinderella stories and crushing blows to our favorite people, and our egos. It allows us to show off our knowledge in an attempt to make ourselves feel important while doing our favorite thing, arguing. Most importantly, it gives me context to explain that John Lennon was kind of a dick. It is personal, it is exciting and it is amazing. Instant runoff (while efficient) is not.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
-,- here Vashta, you forgot your Oxford comma in you second-to-last sentence. I agree though, but I still want to do this for the same you'd comparing these results to the bracket results.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
Lol
your*
Sake*
TrPrado (461 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
I'll only do top 3 from each so as to not spoil all of my favorite choices when doing actual votes.
Leaders:
1. Muhammad
2. Genghis Khan
3. Alexander the Great

Artists:
1. J. R. R. Tolkien
2. Harriet Beecher Stowe
3. Homer

Scientists/Inventors:
1. Avicenna
2. Aristotle
3. Galileo Galilei

Wild Cards:
1. Jesus
2. Karl Marx
3. Martin Luther King, Jr.
TrPrado (461 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
It also looks like I'll need to start preparing my case in favor of Stowe for when that match rolls around.
Fuck you all who put Bach above Mozart.
goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
15 Dec 14 UTC
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^^This is why I like the brackets system. Mozart was composing music by the time he was five. I prefer Bach's music to Mozart's, but Mozart was by far the greater musician.
LeinadT (146 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
I love the idea of instant runoff voting, but I agree with Vashta (despite his omission of my beloved Oxford comma), the fun of it is in debating these things, and watching the bracket take shape.
uclabb (589 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
1. Kanye

Bitches.
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
You'll start this but won't tabulate?
Your Humble Narrator (1922 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
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I just talked to Jesus, he said, "What up, Yeezus?" Nothin' much just chillin', trying to win the Webdiplomacy Greatest People in History Tournament. "Me too," Jesus replied.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
Because I don't like this format:

1) Kanye
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
"I'm living in the future, so the present is my past,
My presence is a present, kiss my ass"
-Kanye West
@Jeff, uclabb: You are doing it wrong.
1) Kanye
2) Kanye
3) Kanye
4) Emma Stone
5) Kanye
VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
15 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
*Emma Watson
Tolstoy (1962 D)
18 Dec 14 UTC
More votes needed. IVR does not work when you have more candidates than voters.
Krythe (100 D)
19 Dec 14 UTC
Alright, here are my votes:


Leaders:
1. Alexander the Great
2. Genghis Khan
3. Tamerlane
3. Napoleon Bonaparte
4. Charlemagne
5. Augustus Caesar
6. Hannibal
7. Otto von Bismarck
8. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
9. Peter the Great
10. Winston Churchill
11. Muhammad
12. George Washington
13. Nelson Mandela
14. Joan of Arc
15. Theodore Roosevelt
16. Gandhi
17. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
18. Margaret Thatcher
19. Elizabeth I
20. Tokugawa
21. Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
22. Theodora
23. Isabella I
24. Alaric I
25. Erwin Rommel
26. Adolf Hitler
27. Cincinnatus
28. Olga of Kiev
29. Deng Xiaoping
30. Alfred the Great
31. Winfield Scott

Artists:
1. Homer
2. William Shakespeare
3. Johann Sebastian Bach
4. J.R.R. Tolkien
5. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
6. Franz Liszt
7. Pyotr Tchaikovsky
8. Pablo Picasso
9. Lord Byron
10. The Beatles
11. Bob Dylan
12. Vincent Van Gogh
13. Salvador Dali
14. Fyodor Dostoyevsky
15. Lao Tzu
16. George R. R. Martin
17. Vergil

Scientists/Inventors:
1. Albert Einstein
2. Alan Turing
3. Nikola Tesla
4. Charles Darwin
5. Richard Feynman
6. Norman Borlaug
7. James Watt
8. Archimedes
9. Avicenna
10. Aristotle
11. Stephen Hawking
12. Gregor Mendel
13. Leonardo da Vinci
14. Johannes Gutenberg
15. Copernicus
16. Marie Curie
17. Robert Oppenheimer
18. Isaac Newton
19. Werner von Braun
20. Jane Goodall
21. Mendeleev

Wild Card:
1. Plato
2. Gottfried Leibniz
3. Karl Marx
4. Socrates
5. Martin Luther
6. Alfred Nobel
7. Benjamin Franklin
8. Adam Smith
9. Bill Gates
10. Susan B. Anthony
This is going to require a lot more thought than the other thread. I'll post here eventually
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
Hey look, it's a version of that thing I started before totally abandoning it without warning ('cause Finals are a bitch, folks...but it's OK...I'm *officially* a graduate-level windbag now, meaning I don't just get to write 10K word treatises on Shakespeare's every little doing for fun, but as a REQUIREMENT now, goody!) ;)

Anywho...

Leaders:
Elizabeth I (go Lizzie go!)
Muhammad (obvious)
Augustus (equally obvious)
Winston Churchill (ditto)
Alexander the Great (yep)
Genghis Khan (wasn't his first name actually Bob, though?) :p
FDR (Winston, FDR, or good old Lizzie...) :)

Artists:
Homer (or as the haters/damned realists call him, Ancient Greece) :p
William Shakespeare (what could *I* possibly have to say about Shakespeare?)
J.S. Bach (I do it with reservations--he could be Mozart--but he deserves it)
Mozart (Come on...Shakespeare or Mozart...!)
Picasso (hate to skip those above him, but Pablo DID reinvent a whole form of art)
Vergil (though if he dares beat the Bard again...)
Dostoyevsky (I argued TBK was the greatest novel of all-time, if I recall...I stand by it)
Michaelangelo (more Renaissance love...)
Monet (don't know how much support he'll get, but he deserves at least one vote)

Scientists (about whom I have jack squat to say...which I know everyone's sad about):
Turing
da Vinci
Aristotle (more for Aristotle the whole package than Aristotle's science, but still)
Copernicus
Archimedes
Albert Einstein
Gregor Mendel
Johannes Gutenberg
Rosalind Franklin
Charles Darwin
Galileo Galilei
Freud

Wild Card (hardest to rank against one another...):
Buddha (founded a major world religion...kinda important...
Constantine (why'd Constantinope get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks!)
Martin Luther (much as I LOATHE him...)
Karl Marx (see Luther, though Marx is mere mild dislike compared to my Luther hatred)
Leibniz
Emma Watson (why the fuck she's here I dunno...but what the hell, lol, nice actress) :p
Jesus (even if he wasn't the messiah, and just a very naughty boy...)
Rene Descartes (I vote, therefore, he is...to be carried on)
15. Martin Luther King, Jr. (please, can we have him on the $20 instead of Jackson?)
Plato (wrote a few decent page turners, I suppose...)
John Locke (ditto Johnny Boy here)
Immanuel Kant (ditto this great big Kant here)
Adam Smith (...I can't really follow up that bad "Kant" joke...)
Bill Gates (because I'm typing this on a PC, lol)
Susan B. Anthony (Women's Suffrage, kind of a deal...)
Socrates (just don't offer him a drink)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
On the other hand, I agree with Vashta--it's way more fun voting person by person, so if everyone's still game, I'd argue that's the better way to do this.

...That being said, I was gone for way too long and left this in the lap of others, so it's not my deciding call at this point, lol.
TrPrado (461 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
This isn't even the official thread for the tournament.
TrPrado (461 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
And welcome back/congratulations!
Krythe (100 D)
22 Dec 14 UTC
BUMP
Tolstoy (1962 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
Alas, due to the low turnout (only 6 ballots), all candidates who got votes were tied for last place on the first ballot and were consequently eliminated in - except for Homer (who got two votes). I guess this makes Homer the greatest person who ever lived...

The results are in - about 2 years before the other thread will have a winner(s)!
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
I believe Kanye won.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
Kanye was never nominated during the nomination process.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
Actually, upon reviewing the ballot, Kanye West *was* nominated, and received three votes, and consequently is the winner.

Apologies for the discrepancy - to be honest, I thought the votes for Kanye were a joke, and did not bother to check if he had been nominated. But it seems, in fact, that Kanye West is the most important person that ever lived according to the Webdip forum members. Go figure! Although with Hannibal getting shot down in the first round in the "official" thread, I suppose I should not be surprised.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
Hooray for IRV!

Actually, I would be interested to see how an IRV result would look once the "full" tournament is complete. At that point, I'd complete a serious ballot.


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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
21 Dec 14 UTC
SOW Study Group Replacement Needed
I'm looking for a replacement for Germany for the SOW Study Group. This is a game for people to learn how to play the game and prepare for a full SOW game. For more info, please see: viewthread=1193195. If you're interested, please PM me. gameID=149304
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
22 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
Hail to the King(s)
Let it be know that on this night, the 21st of December, the members bo_sox48 and VashtaNeurotic conducted a heist of upwards of 40 +1s, truly a feat of zultar (praise be unto his name) esche proportions. And now I would like to wish bo a solemn goodbye and good luck on his 10 day excursion to Japan.
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The Hanged Man (4160 D(G))
22 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
The Prestige
Does it matter where you go to college?
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Yoyoyozo (95 D)
22 Dec 14 UTC
Fatal error?
Is anyone else getting this error?
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Yoyoyozo (95 D)
21 Dec 14 UTC
"Applying to Collge" stress
How did you guys deal with it? Any Advise? I'm pretty much freaking out right now.
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tvrocks (388 D)
21 Dec 14 UTC
(+5)
discuss
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Strauss (1872 D)
22 Dec 14 UTC
Evolutionary Deadlock
"Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without
notice." (William James Durant, American Historian and Philosopher)
2 replies
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
22 Dec 14 UTC
Congrats to the Winner of the Diplo-Ball League
Jim's Fantastic Team - easily the most all-around team in the league this year. It was a good, highly frustrating season haha
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Zappa (100 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
Comparing Online Diplomacy Sites
I've just joined this site, but have played online Diplomacy before at another site. I wonder why people choose the site(s) they do. For example BOUNCED has an unbeatable interface, but far fewer members than this one. Why is that?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
22 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
Don't +1 Vashta
Don't +1 Vashta. He's not a +1 whore but he's getting addicted. We need to starve him so that he stops.
29 replies
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TrPrado (461 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
Search an Destroy
Any interest in a special sort of game of Diplomacy?
59 replies
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
Is America truly exceptional?
So in my late night perusing of youtube I managed to find these two videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPHSXUS0_1c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8UqdPKbpWM and it got me thinking. Is America truly exceptional right now? (My inclination is no) and if not, what can we do to be such? Please discuss (with politness and civility).
63 replies
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KingCyrus (511 D)
21 Dec 14 UTC
(+1)
Today is my Birthday
Yes, it is.
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tyler688 (100 D)
21 Dec 14 UTC
some ideas
devs, please add at least a 2-3 player mode, and maybe a AI mode where you play with the computer. Please respond with your thoughts.
10 replies
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Marz (515 D)
21 Dec 14 UTC
(+2)
Rewind a Game
If all players agree, are mods able to rewind games?
3 replies
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Ogion (3817 D)
23 Oct 14 UTC
2014 Gunboat Tournament Final II
Seems the original has been locked. Anyway, for those keeping score, I'd say Maettu is looking good for the win. One game down, six to go.

30 replies
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MarquisMark (326 D(G))
21 Dec 14 UTC
Replacement France Needed
Replacement player needed for France. In good shape, no home centers lost.

gameID=151870
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
19 Dec 14 UTC
(+6)
I Wanna Be a Mod
The following message is one of Vash's (possibly numerous) late night ideas. As such I am not sure how smart it is, but the last one worked out well.
26 replies
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
19 Dec 14 UTC
Greatest Mod Tournament
In the same vein as the "Greatest Author" and "Greatest Musician" tournaments, we should also do the Greatest Mod to rank the great and not-so-great leadership that this site has seen. Nominees are listed below.
20 replies
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
21 Dec 14 UTC
(+2)
Updated changes and where to find them
This is where we will post changes that we have recently made to the site and when we did it. This is to help members keep track of updates.
Much thanks for A_Tin_Can, jmo and the mods.
http://webdiplomacy.net/recentchanges.php
2 replies
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
19 Dec 14 UTC
Finals Time
What's the best or worst thing you've seen on a final exam?
9 replies
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
17 Dec 14 UTC
Civ 5 thread
Old one got locked or I can't find it.

Talked to mendax and I think we should try to get a Civ game going soon. Post here if interested and we'll work out a time and such.
22 replies
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
Needed! Replacement England in good postion.
5 replies
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MichiganMan (5121 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
Incidents of Cheating on the Rise?
Is it just me, or does it seem that (once again) the site is going through a period of increased cheating activity? Personally, I've noticed such, especially in GB games in which communication between powers is strikingly obvious.

Thoughts?
16 replies
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Your Humble Narrator (1922 D)
20 Dec 14 UTC
(+5)
I remember when +1s were first introduced
Do you? +1 if you do or don't
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