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Louis-XXV
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New Versaille Peace Conference game

#1 Post by Louis-XXV » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:27 am

We propose, after a first attempt, to resume the experience of a more diplomatic, less stabbing game.

Consequently, the following rules will apply:
1/ only public messaging
2/ Anonymous players
3/ Obligation to declare war before attacking the territory of one of the 7 powers : ie the colored spaces. Does not Apply to fight for neutrals SCs, nor naval supremacy
4/ Right to enter into Non Agression Pact (NAP) with the following conséquences: need to denounce it in turn (n), before declaring war in turn (n+1) and possibility to attack the territory of the other Power in turn (n+2)
5/Right to enter into Defensive Pact (DP) with the following conséquences: obligation to enter into war if the Partner to the DP is attacked. The DP can be general (ie any attack triggers the obligation to enter into war) or specific to one party: if a specific Power attacks
6/ Right to enter into Offensive Pact (OP) with the following conséquences obligation to enter into war if the Partner to the DP attacks. The DP can be general (ie any attack triggers the obligation to enter into war) or specific to one party: if a specific Power is attacked
7/ Right to enter into DMZ agreements, may concern land and navy spaces. Need to be denounces in turn (n) before entering in the former DMZ zone in turn (n+1)
8/ Right to enter into Limitation on Armament Pact (LAP) with the following conséquences: obligation for the parties to limit the number of armies and/or navies.

The game is open as a new game under Versailles Peace Conference-2

Please for the players who where not part of the first attempt, could you wait till 13 February 18 pm, Paris time before joining.
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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#2 Post by Claesar » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:59 am

I would recommend password-protecting the game then.

What happens when someone breaks the rules as laid out in this thread?

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#3 Post by Louis-XXV » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:04 am

Sorry, I didn't know how to do it.

We would need to cancel the game.

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#4 Post by Claesar » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:40 am

No, that's unnecessary.

Invite code is now: howtosetpassword

The other player currently in there was also in your first game.
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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#5 Post by Louis-XXV » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:46 am

Thanks a lot !

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#6 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:08 am

I would like to play in this. But how do I take part? It is not clearly stated.

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#7 Post by Louis-XXV » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:18 am

Cannot you find the new game in the new games list ?

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#8 Post by Louis-XXV » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:21 am

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=269518

Here the link to the game. If you were not part of the previous Versailles Peace Conference game, please wait till tomorrow 13, Feb, 6pm, (Paris time) to Apply.

I gave priority to the players in the current game to join till this deadline.

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#9 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:44 am

Okay, so just join if it's not full by then? Sounds good.
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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#10 Post by Louis-XXV » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:51 am

Great.

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#11 Post by Claesar » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:52 am

What happens when someone breaks the rules as laid out in this thread?

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#12 Post by Louis-XXV » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:59 am

Players should not break the rules.

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#13 Post by gimix » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:22 am

It seems very interesting, and i would be happy to join this or a future game.

Just one question: while announcements of, or withdrawals from, Pacts obviously need to be public, why do not allow for private press between players when they are trying to reach an agreement? One may be working on different, even conflicting pacts at the same time, and then would publicly announce only the one(s) that were agreed upon.

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#14 Post by Louis-XXV » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:26 am

That's one option I was thinking about.

It seems a good idea. But for this game, we will not change the rules any further. We had a problem on the previous game when we suggested to clarify a point and the guy felt we were rigging the rules.

So for this game, we keep this set of rules but all players should think about how to improve it, and your suggestion is a good one.

However, only public messaging make the game more lively since everything happens in public, including offer to negotiate. That's fun.

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#15 Post by Louis-XXV » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:17 am

We propose, after a first attempt, to resume the experience of a more diplomatic, less stabbing game.

Consequently, the following rules will apply:
1/ only public messaging
2/ Anonymous players
3/ Obligation to declare war before attacking the territory of one of the 7 powers : ie the colored spaces. Does not Apply to fight for neutrals SCs, nor naval supremacy
4/ Right to enter into Non Agression Pact (NAP) with the following conséquences: need to denounce it in turn (n), before declaring war in turn (n+1) and possibility to attack the territory of the other Power in turn (n+2)
5/Right to enter into Defensive Pact (DP) with the following conséquences: obligation to enter into war if the Partner to the DP is attacked. The DP can be general (ie any attack triggers the obligation to enter into war) or specific to one party: if a specific Power attacks
6/ Right to enter into Offensive Pact (OP) with the following conséquences obligation to enter into war if the Partner to the DP attacks. The DP can be general (ie any attack triggers the obligation to enter into war) or specific to one party: if a specific Power is attacked
7/ Right to enter into DMZ agreements, may concern land and navy spaces. Need to be denounces in turn (n) before entering in the former DMZ zone in turn (n+1)
8/ Right to enter into Limitation on Armament Pact (LAP) with the following conséquences: obligation for the parties to limit the number of armies and/or navies.

The game is open as a new game under Versailles Peace Conference-2

Here is the link

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=269518

Password : howtosetpassword

Please for the players who where not part of the first attempt, could you wait till 13 February 18 pm, Paris time before joining.
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Wilsonian game : two players missing

#16 Post by Louis-XXV » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:03 pm

We propose, after a first attempt, to resume the experience of a more diplomatic, less stabbing game.

Consequently, the following rules will apply:
1/ only public messaging
2/ Anonymous players
3/ Obligation to declare war before attacking the territory of one of the 7 powers : ie the colored spaces. Does not Apply to fight for neutrals SCs, nor naval supremacy
4/ Right to enter into Non Agression Pact (NAP) with the following conséquences: need to denounce it in turn (n), before declaring war in turn (n+1) and possibility to attack the territory of the other Power in turn (n+2)
5/Right to enter into Defensive Pact (DP) with the following conséquences: obligation to enter into war if the Partner to the DP is attacked. The DP can be general (ie any attack triggers the obligation to enter into war) or specific to one party: if a specific Power attacks
6/ Right to enter into Offensive Pact (OP) with the following conséquences obligation to enter into war if the Partner to the DP attacks. The DP can be general (ie any attack triggers the obligation to enter into war) or specific to one party: if a specific Power is attacked
7/ Right to enter into DMZ agreements, may concern land and navy spaces. Need to be denounces in turn (n) before entering in the former DMZ zone in turn (n+1)
8/ Right to enter into Limitation on Armament Pact (LAP) with the following conséquences: obligation for the parties to limit the number of armies and/or navies.

The game is open as a new game under Versailles Peace Conference-2

Here is the link

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=269518

Password : howtosetpassword
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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#17 Post by Swede03 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:11 pm

What if a nation has a defensive pact with one nation and an offensive pact with other and those two nations go to war?

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#18 Post by Louis-XXV » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:20 pm

Good point, no idea

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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#19 Post by Kakarroto » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:51 pm

Simple: declare war on both.

Why?
Goal of the defensive pact: declare war on the aggressor.
Goal of the offensive pact: declare war on the target.
Both pacts triggering at the same time: War, war never changes.
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Re: New Versaille Peace Conference game

#20 Post by DrugTito » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:19 pm

Does declaring a war against a player bound the ''aggressor'' to actually use his units to attack tactically, or can they stay in effectively a peaceful position?
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