MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3261 Post by Temasek22 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:40 pm

Aww man. After we were doing so well...

RIP Kit, I'm out of words now.

Bionic and Kalel are definitely saved. Might have to vote for them tomorrow

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3262 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:41 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:24 pm
hah Squigs I see you there, hi Squigs, come back to join us in mafia

if you are Hyde feel free to put me out of my misery
i still hate his fake dude

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3263 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:43 pm

CmdrLikely wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:34 pm
Really, gang? Actually, I admit that I would have considered a Kit lynch, but I don't think I would have jumped on that wagon.
I'd be interested to analyze after this game is over how many times the wagon changes in the last hour and if that was beneficial for town or for maf...
Except in cases where players vote on someone scanned from the previous night or clearly outed scum, the vote almost always jumps around last minute. Whether it lands on scum or town goes both ways iirc, leaning towards town a little bit more than scum due to stats.

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3264 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:43 pm

you still shouldnt talk at night, and give mafia a chance to talk to each other BUT since I think Chaqa is moriarty, and he has no teammates, its on like donkey kong, I will be finishing the day 3 iso tonight, and day 4 iso and night 3 iso, you better believe it chaqa, YOU ARE GOING DOWN

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3265 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:44 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:41 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:24 pm
hah Squigs I see you there, hi Squigs, come back to join us in mafia

if you are Hyde feel free to put me out of my misery
i still hate his fake dude
Lol I remember that

yeah hang around a bit if you've got the time, I'll finish up my draft response to your Chaqa iso

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3266 Post by ND » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:44 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:38 pm
ND wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:26 pm
What the literal fuck? Why didn't you morons vote for cmdr?
Maybe you should have been a better town clear or been here to make the case.
I've purposely not done so because it's not my job to scum hunt for 26 people or whatever. People need to make their own case. I'll let you know if I like it

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3267 Post by CmdrLikely » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:45 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:43 pm
CmdrLikely wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:34 pm
Really, gang? Actually, I admit that I would have considered a Kit lynch, but I don't think I would have jumped on that wagon.
I'd be interested to analyze after this game is over how many times the wagon changes in the last hour and if that was beneficial for town or for maf...
Except in cases where players vote on someone scanned from the previous night or clearly outed scum, the vote almost always jumps around last minute. Whether it lands on scum or town goes both ways iirc, leaning towards town a little bit more than scum due to stats.
Hmmm isn't there a well known study about this behavior? Monty Hall problem or something?

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3268 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:48 pm

I find it interesting that people are saying that Bionic or Kalel was saved. Kalel never had any momentum whatsoever. Not sure how you draw that conclusion - Bionic was a leading wagon. Much more likely he was saved. If Bionic is scum, I think that highly implicated people pushing the narrative that someone besides Bionic was saved

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3269 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:48 pm

Hell, Chaqa might have had more momentum than Kale with Flav shouting on and on

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3270 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:48 pm

CmdrLikely wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:45 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:43 pm
CmdrLikely wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:34 pm
Really, gang? Actually, I admit that I would have considered a Kit lynch, but I don't think I would have jumped on that wagon.
I'd be interested to analyze after this game is over how many times the wagon changes in the last hour and if that was beneficial for town or for maf...
Except in cases where players vote on someone scanned from the previous night or clearly outed scum, the vote almost always jumps around last minute. Whether it lands on scum or town goes both ways iirc, leaning towards town a little bit more than scum due to stats.
Hmmm isn't there a well known study about this behavior? Monty Hall problem or something?
I do not believe that is correctly applicable here, as the switching occurs regardless of scum or town win, and people are willing to switch rather than not.

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3271 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:50 pm

I like big wagon swings. It puts people on the spot, rather than allowing them time to craft narratives more carefully

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3272 Post by CmdrLikely » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:50 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:48 pm
CmdrLikely wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:45 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:43 pm

Except in cases where players vote on someone scanned from the previous night or clearly outed scum, the vote almost always jumps around last minute. Whether it lands on scum or town goes both ways iirc, leaning towards town a little bit more than scum due to stats.
Hmmm isn't there a well known study about this behavior? Monty Hall problem or something?
I do not believe that is correctly applicable here, as the switching occurs regardless of scum or town win, and people are willing to switch rather than not.
From wikipedia:
even Nobel physicists systematically give the wrong answer, and that they insist on it, and they are ready to berate in print those who propose the right answer." Pigeons repeatedly exposed to the problem show that they rapidly learn to always switch, unlike humans
So in a sense, humans are worse than choosing compared to pigeons.

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3273 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:53 pm

ND wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:44 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:38 pm
ND wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:26 pm
What the literal fuck? Why didn't you morons vote for cmdr?
Maybe you should have been a better town clear or been here to make the case.
I've purposely not done so because it's not my job to scum hunt for 26 people or whatever. People need to make their own case. I'll let you know if I like it
I agree, but you werent even on to say if you liked my Chaqa case or not, if you were there I really think you could of flipped a lot of people ;(

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3274 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:55 pm

Flav, I have a slight problem lol

How much of it is you copy/paste snazzing Chaqa for evidence, and how much is yours?

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3275 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:55 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:50 pm
I like big wagon swings. It puts people on the spot, rather than allowing them time to craft narratives more carefully

man if EoD was at 7 o'clock not 6 o'clock, I can gurantee you right now Chaqa would be dead

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3276 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:55 pm

Actually I'll just rewrite your whole thing.

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3277 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:56 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:55 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:50 pm
I like big wagon swings. It puts people on the spot, rather than allowing them time to craft narratives more carefully

man if EoD was at 7 o'clock not 6 o'clock, I can gurantee you right now Chaqa would be dead
Chaqa will sort himself out.

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3278 Post by Chaqa » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:01 am

Here’s the thing - Flavius even if you’re right (you’re not), I’ve loudly and repeatedly proclaimed I’m a female VT. I’m getting Jacked tonight.

Doesn’t matter.

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3279 Post by BionicMole » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:32 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:48 pm
I find it interesting that people are saying that Bionic or Kalel was saved. Kalel never had any momentum whatsoever. Not sure how you draw that conclusion - Bionic was a leading wagon. Much more likely he was saved. If Bionic is scum, I think that highly implicated people pushing the narrative that someone besides Bionic was saved
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:48 pm
Hell, Chaqa might have had more momentum than Kale with Flav shouting on and on
This with 9 minutes 'till EOD: Mole 5, Kit 3
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:51 pm
@Temasek - I'll swap over to Kitsune if you will to keep this off a tie.
This with 5 minutes left:
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:55 pm
I need someone to switch to Kitsune and I will. This includes Bionic.
Interesting for someone that has said they should die for the good of the town about a dozen times.

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3280 Post by Tom Bombadil » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:41 am

Scumbos. If you kill me, you don’t hit SK. I can track someone. If you don’t roleblock me, you have a chance I track SK. If you roleblock someone else, you could always find SK that way as well.

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