M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4181 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:42 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:58 pm
So also:

GG town.

BunnyGo deserves credit for guessing right and shooting me.

I actually thought I was behaving like town Jamie. I'd be interested for Bunny to explain why he decided to shoot me.

This was a hard setup for Mafia. The Interceptor is a very powerful role for Town. Plus the Driver is very strong if he can't be Roleblocked. All the same, my team mates were foolish for not realising they couldn't RB the Driver. That was a serious misplay.

Vecna made a decent effort in a tricky 3P role.

Mafia 51 will be submitted for approval by the GRAND KOUNCIL over this weekend. Worcej and I will be your GMs. Sign ups will open in around 10 days, pending approval from the KOMMITTEE OF ULTIMATE MIGHT.
I just saw this thread, I'd been PMing Jamie (and I think confusing him because I didn't see all the posts here: sorry Jamie!)

As part of my neighborhood watch, Vaporwave didn't claim to me, but instead sent me that icecream picture of a Magnum icecream. I thought he was hinting he was the vigilante. I dunno. So I decided to cover for him from the assassin with the gun Worcej gave me.

I shot you because: 1) worcej, vapor, and flav (my 3 clears) suggested it.
2) we'd discussed the previous game about getting the vig to claim after a bad shot, and you did it again this game. It felt off.
3) I was sooooo sure the rest of the game that you shot the doctor. I didn't even believe it when Chaqa posted above that you didn't.

In a side note: why are you spelling words with Ks rather than Cs?
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4182 Post by dargorygel » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:37 pm

ALSO gotta shout, fanTAStic end flavour! (Although one wondered if, while perhaps not quite hoping... For some mmmeeemmmeeesss)
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4183 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:07 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:37 pm
ALSO gotta shout, fanTAStic end flavour! (Although one wondered if, while perhaps not quite hoping... For some mmmeeemmmeeesss)
Agreed wholly! The theme was great. I wonder how much people were clicking on all my links. Was I doing too much?
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4184 Post by dargorygel » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:22 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:07 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:37 pm
ALSO gotta shout, fanTAStic end flavour! (Although one wondered if, while perhaps not quite hoping... For some mmmeeemmmeeesss)
Agreed wholly! The theme was great. I wonder how much people were clicking on all my links. Was I doing too much?
You had links?
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4185 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:37 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:22 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:07 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:37 pm
ALSO gotta shout, fanTAStic end flavour! (Although one wondered if, while perhaps not quite hoping... For some mmmeeemmmeeesss)
Agreed wholly! The theme was great. I wonder how much people were clicking on all my links. Was I doing too much?
You had links?
😥
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4186 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:18 pm

TrPrado wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:34 am
I would’ve absolutely crucified Jamie for that Flavius push if he weren’t my teammate. And me not getting called out on ignoring him completely was kind of funny to me.
rip, we find people one at a time for me so yea
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4187 Post by Chaqa » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:47 pm

So, EMC and I had a lot of fun creating and running this game, but I want to apologize (a little) for the lack of preparedness. The last month or so got unexpectedly busy for us both, especially me, and I'm a bit of a control freak when it comes to my setups. To be quite honest, we had a few roles that we intended to work differently, but the role PMs did not reflect this and as such to be fair to everyone we decided to rule everything as worded (except the Driver, because that one really never is able to self-target in my experience).

If the roles worked as I intended rather than as worded, the following would have been different:
  • The Janitor would have known the role of its cleanup target.
  • The Driver would have clearly specified it can't self-target, as it requires visiting the two roles. As an aside, it should definitely have been able to be roleblocked, in retrospect. I have some thoughts on order of operations and adjudication order I'll write up in the master thread later.
  • The Interceptor is a bit too strong. I think maybe it shouldn't be usable until Night 2 or 3.
  • The Philosoraptor was strong, but also utilized well. I think maybe it should be strictly limited to asking a single sentence question, and not as wide leeway as Bunny used.
  • The Bulletproof was NOT supposed to survive a lynch. Unfortunately, this wasn't clear, and by the time I saw what town was doing with Flavius and his lynch, I knew ruling otherwise would be a major impact on the game and wanted to defer to the role PM.
  • I think the Assassin should be NK immune as well, and his gun should be instantaneous, or not able to be roleblocked, or something.
The mafia may have been a bit weak, but I think the Mafia team could have utilized a lot of their powers better. The Role Thief should have been used, the Roleblock wasn't used super effectively, and they, in my opinion, wasted the Hammerer. Jamiet getting shot as he did was very unfortunate.

In my opinion the clear MVP is Dargo. Kitsune and Bunny are close seconds though. I also think the first setup roll was more balanced than the re-roll, which had a lot more going on for town (notably the Interceptor and Item Smith + JOAT).

When it comes time to do another role madness game (likely M69), we plan to fix balance issues, test more interactions, and also have more possible roles and less clarity on what roles are actually in the game.
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4188 Post by worcej » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:41 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:33 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:52 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:46 pm
Jamie's fakeclaim was the Vig. If only he had gotten to shoot his gun and claim...
For the record, I was on the bus home at EoD when BunnyGo fakeclaimed Vig. I logged onto the computer when I got home, with the intention of hardclaiming Vig (I'd softed it several times) and blasting BunnyGo, only to find that he had shot me dead about 5 minutes earlier. That's how close it was.

I also nearly shot Xorxes on D1, but changed my mind and held my shot.
us shooting jamie, and me looking at xorxes, legit had no backing behind we, we were just shooting from the hip, haha it was real luck
I like how everyone forgot it was me who said shoot Jaime lol...
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4189 Post by TrPrado » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:48 pm

Yeah, I agree on MVP. Both dargo and Kitsune were powerhouses, to the point that I knew bozo would want to resurrect Kitsune and I felt it was extremely important for Temasek to use one of his thief powers to stop that from happening (I didn't think bo had kept up as much with the thread so bozo confirming himself and using up his first medium was something I was fully willing to accept). Bunny, in spite of being one of the top posters, was a much more subtle threat and managed to be very underestimated.
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4190 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:48 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:47 pm

[*]The Philosoraptor was strong, but also utilized well. I think maybe it should be strictly limited to asking a single sentence question, and not as wide leeway as Bunny used.
Be careful how you rewrite the role. I was already planning how to write a Joseph Conrad style sentence with oodles of semi-colons and hyphens.
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4191 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:16 pm

Ok remind me who the current council is?

Darg, Hellenic, Tombo?
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4192 Post by RagingIke297 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:37 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:16 pm
Ok remind me who the current council is?

Darg, Hellenic, Tombo?
Tom and Dargy
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4193 Post by Kitsune » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:42 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:48 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:47 pm

[*]The Philosoraptor was strong, but also utilized well. I think maybe it should be strictly limited to asking a single sentence question, and not as wide leeway as Bunny used.
Be careful how you rewrite the role. I was already planning how to write a Joseph Conrad style sentence with oodles of semi-colons and hyphens.
Hard word limit, MLA referencing.

Bibliography not included.
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4194 Post by FlaviusAetius » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:14 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:37 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:22 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:07 pm


Agreed wholly! The theme was great. I wonder how much people were clicking on all my links. Was I doing too much?
You had links?
😥
Clicked on every last one ;)
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4195 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:12 pm

Mafia 51 has been submitted for approval.

For those interested, the roles list, assuming 22 players, is as follows:

TOWN:
1 DETECTIVE
1 DOCTOR
1 TRAVELLER
1 GAMBLER
1 STREET URCHIN
1 JEKYLL & HYDE (Day Doctor and sometime Third Party)
Plus xx VTs to make up the numbers

MAFIA TEAM 1 - MORIARTY & CO:
1 EVIL GENIUS (Anti-Detective)
1 STRONGMAN
1 GOON

MAFIA TEAM 2 - BURKE & HARE:
1 GRAVE ROBBER
1 ROLEBLOCKER
1 GOON

1 JACK THE RIPPER (3rd Party special SK)
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4196 Post by damo666 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:39 pm

@Jamie Lokks Luke fun
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4197 Post by damo666 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:42 pm

Or even looks like
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4198 Post by Chaqa » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:52 pm

Make sure I'm a PR or I riot.
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4199 Post by Kitsune » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:04 pm

British bobbies saying Ello Ello Ello or we riot ;)

Seriously though, looks amazing. When are you targeting for start date?
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#4200 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:26 pm

Kitsune wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:04 pm
British bobbies saying Ello Ello Ello or we riot ;)

Seriously though, looks amazing. When are you targeting for start date?
Around about the 20th. Signups very soon.

There will be an extra 24 hours added to whichever phase is over Thanksgiving.
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