Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[EspressoPatronum]

##vote Bozo (until he concedes re mass claim)

I don't see scum!bozo taking as firm as stance on the massclaim as he did here. Forcing him to concede the point with your vote doesn't do anything here.

[brainbomb]

we have over 24 hours. id expect by phase end that emc will still be a wagon.
I wont be voting emc.
Id rather prop up a counterwagon on espresso, worcej, or vapor

[brainbomb]

chaqa also is always worthy of death

[brainbomb]

if mike gets subbed we get Jamie or ND?

[flash2015]

we have over 24 hours. id expect by phase end that emc will still be a wagon.
I wont be voting emc.
Id rather prop up a counterwagon on espresso, worcej, or vapor

Why these three?

[brainbomb]

we have over 24 hours. id expect by phase end that emc will still be a wagon.
I wont be voting emc.
Id rather prop up a counterwagon on espresso, worcej, or vapor

Why these three?

espresso felt opportunistic joining emc. could be a busser. His attitude felt nonchalant and faked.

worcej fluffed alot of posts and has taken hedgy stances on people.

vapor feels like a limp wet dog this game

[worcej]

What do we think of our two new players.

No impression yet.

[bozotheclown]

if mike gets subbed we get Jamie or ND?

##VOTE Mike213

[Foxcastle]

tentative smol townlean on Vapor for activity and 'reads'...so early, lmao

Why am I the leading wagon, again? :d

It seems like just placeholders to make it look like they're doing something

but again, not that I mind xD

This is scummy. If emc is town, he should be doing more to actually find scum, or he should be arguing about why he's town, or otherwise trying to prove he's town. He's played enough to know that a wagon this early is likely to evaporate, so he knows all he has to do is wait it out. The overconfidence belies his alignment.

Einstein, how do you feel about being top wagon? Are you likely to switch votes more than 1 minute before EOD?

I think it's a placeholder for most, and that they'll move off as other wagons form.

and not that late, lmao - I try for a few hours before EOD.

Untrue. In all 4 games that you've played, on Days 1 and 2, the earliest you've made a vote is 1:22 before EOD.*

In fact, you've been the last player to vote the first two days of all four of your previous games. It's bad play, and you should be policy lynched for it until you either stop protecting your scum meta or you start giving town enough material to town read you.

[*In M42, his first game, on D1, he self-voted himself at the very start of game, then unvoted, but did not make a real vote until 14 minutes to EOD.]

[Foxcastle]

want more flash posts,

gimme flash

Don't worry. I am here. Not much to keep track of yet.

Flash seems pretty lurky, which is unusual. Got something to hide, Flash?

[Foxcastle]

Fox just set the stage for emc to play how he has so far this day instead of letting emc hang himself.

Can you explain what you mean by this? I cannot figure out what you're trying to say.

[EspressoPatronum]

Fox & others are being unreasonable when they vote e.m.c for his past placement of votes

At least, wait for the guy, wait to see how e.m.c votes and guess what? e.m.c finally voted before EOD, he voted himself early and people are still moaning about his past games

EMC's vote against himself is effectively a non-vote meant to defeat a literal interpretation of the criticism, "EMC doesn't vote until EOD." The heart of the criticism is that his non-vote doesn't help town because we can't track his voting record and we don't know what to expect of his vote. Voting for himself doesn't help either of this problems, so his vote against himself is still anti-town.

Let the guy be, if he wants to vote 1 second before EOD, it's part of who he is and we should accept this. Every one of you has his own quirks and has been anti-town many times, why shouldn't e.m.c keep his style?

This e.m.c wagon is weak regardless if e.m.c is scum or not this game

Again, anti-town behaviour. If we have the opportunity to deal with it now, we should.

[brainbomb]

We could hammer emc since there seems to be only 1 player townreadin him

[Percy Williams]

What do we think of our two new players.

Who are?

Mike213
and
Hotsuke

Is foodcoats an old returning player?

[rdrivera2005]

The only towny thing Rdrivera has done so far is being ignorant of the fact that the power thief's mechanisms have changed since the initial version of this setup. Which is something I only noticed after our little discussion with Bozo.

That also probably means something for bozo, since he didnt threw that fact in our face. Not sure yet if thats good for him also not realizing that, or bad because he has no conviction to really get his plan to pass. In the past id think he be all up in those mechanics when coming with a plan like this.

Yes, didn't saw it before, this Mafia role is pretty useless now.

its actually extremely strong because its gonna cause paranoia like bothibg else

But he only steal from myslinched people if I understood it right, so really unlikely to steal a useful power.

[brainbomb]

Fox & others are being unreasonable when they vote e.m.c for his past placement of votes

At least, wait for the guy, wait to see how e.m.c votes and guess what? e.m.c finally voted before EOD, he voted himself early and people are still moaning about his past games

EMC's vote against himself is effectively a non-vote meant to defeat a literal interpretation of the criticism, "EMC doesn't vote until EOD." The heart of the criticism is that his non-vote doesn't help town because we can't track his voting record and we don't know what to expect of his vote. Voting for himself doesn't help either of this problems, so his vote against himself is still anti-town.

Let the guy be, if he wants to vote 1 second before EOD, it's part of who he is and we should accept this. Every one of you has his own quirks and has been anti-town many times, why shouldn't e.m.c keep his style?

This e.m.c wagon is weak regardless if e.m.c is scum or not this game

Again, anti-town behaviour. If we have the opportunity to deal with it now, we should.

Oh my lovely lady Aberdeen. I would love to know more about you.

[Foxcastle]

Fox & others are being unreasonable when they vote e.m.c for his past placement of votes

At least, wait for the guy, wait to see how e.m.c votes and guess what? e.m.c finally voted before EOD, he voted himself early and people are still moaning about his past games

Let the guy be, if he wants to vote 1 second before EOD, it's part of who he is and we should accept this. Every one of you has his own quirks and has been anti-town many times, why shouldn't e.m.c keep his style?

This e.m.c wagon is weak regardless if e.m.c is scum or not this game

Nope. Emc is either playing the way he does because 1) he's trying to protect his scum meta for games he roles scum, allowing to vote without leaving a trail so that he's harder to analyze; or 2) he's legit uncertain about where he wants to place his vote, but then he's not helping town read him. When you're town, it's just as important to earn townreads as it is to avoid scumreads.

So he either needs to stop protecting his scum meta, or he needs to get good enough to actually be a useful town player. Either way, he needs to start voting and stop hiding.

[rdrivera2005]

emc is pretty blatantly town here. that forced reason by damo......yikes

Bad reasoning isn't always equals to scum reasoning.

[Foxcastle]

Currently the following would be my lynch pool:
bo_sox
Chaqa
emc
flash
Mike
MoscowFleet
Vecna
worcej

Thats a pretty bad non-resonating lynchpool right there. Me and Worcej are town. And the rest is like a list of people that havent done shit.

I kinda like that lynch pool. Vecna seems townie, and of course several of them are just lurkers who could easily come off the list with a few posts, but otherwise, I'm on board.

[Foxcastle]

Maybe I’m just rusty, but bozo is putting off some super scum vibes to me. Between the terrible massclaim idea and his Lynch pool being seemingly everyone who hasn’t yet voted (plus Vecna for some reason?), I don’t understand his motivations whatsoever.

Is this how he normally plays?

This seems in-line with Bozo's usual style from what I can tell, yes.