Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[ND]

@ND, do you mind taking a look at my detailed analysis - which is how I got my vote for Espresso - and critiquing my analysis point by point? I want to see what holes you can poke in my logic.

Dude, let me get this straight.. you want me to critique your analysis of Espresso point by point. Nevermind that you posted it like in the last hour of the phase when if you posted it earlier something like that may have been possible. This seems like an exercise in futility at this point.

You think it was dumb of me to vote for Espresso - therefore, my logic for voting for Espresso must of deviated from yours somewhere. Because that analysis is my logic for voting for Espresso, why don't you point out the flaws in my analysis point by point?

An exercise in futility at this point

[TrPrado]

I was also gonna ask but forgot because of the judge thing

Rb n1 feels kinda weird tbh bc not rn on NK feels weird but I always kinda thought fake claiming rb was weird too

[ChippeRock]

BLIND ASSASSIN VOTE 1.2
Percy Williams (2): Tom Bombadil, Squigs44
TrPrado (1): Balki Bartokomous
Squigs44 (1): Durga
Teacon (1): TrPrado
ET (1): ND
FoxCastle (1): ChippeRock
xorxes (1): rdrivera2005

Currently, Percy Williams is set to be killed by the Blind Assassin. You have 15 and a half hours to vote.

[ChippeRock]

Dude, let me get this straight.. you want me to critique your analysis of Espresso point by point. Nevermind that you posted it like in the last hour of the phase when if you posted it earlier something like that may have been possible. This seems like an exercise in futility at this point.

You think it was dumb of me to vote for Espresso - therefore, my logic for voting for Espresso must of deviated from yours somewhere. Because that analysis is my logic for voting for Espresso, why don't you point out the flaws in my analysis point by point?

An exercise in futility at this point

So, you think my vote on Espresso was dumb, but you can't point out the flaws in my argument on why I voted for him?

[Percy Williams]

Percy is suspect af btw.

I really dislike going from "So, I finally caught up, and am writing a questions list, but don't want to share it until day 2, to prevent The scum team from choosing a better NK. To clarify, if my questions end up making a town look scummy (because I haven't really made wonderful questions in any past games yet) then posting the questions now could make the scum team not lynch that person."

to

"'m only on page 105 in my catch up so far, but I promised questions:
1. Did Trprado's analysis on you and the accompanying questions make sense? or were there a lot of false assumptions in it?
2.Who all is using new reading methods? If you are, please share if it doesn't ruin the method.
3. Has anyone been posting full reads lists (Besides TrPrado)? I feel like we should do that..."


To me this implies that when he wrote the first thing, he in fact did not have any questions, but that saying so would appease somebody. And then the questions seemingly have no purpose.

Also, don't like how distanced he was about these two wagons

#2 isn't even a real question meant to solve this game in my opinion. These don't feel like good questions that would of affected the NK.

The entire point of my questions were to facilitate discussion of reads, and to put people testing the quality of those reads, so that scum couldn't fake reads easily.Imo, reads and read lists are one of towns most important tools in solving for Scum. Question #2 was designed to help understand the framework to use for each reads list. The discussions I wanted to have never happened, as the entire thread was devoted to Et V. EP.

Question #1 was one of my biggest concerns for directly changing Nk, as Trprado was widely town read for the effort he put in to his iso analysis posts. The Scum team could have very likely NK'd Traprado, unless my question here brought his analysis posts under suspicion, ergo making him seem scummier, and not a good Nk anymore. I think the question would be useful discussion when considering your lynch options, as it also encourages discussing each other's reads and thought process. The point became moot when the judge used their power to force the lynch into two other people.

[TrPrado]

Who even actually town reads me? Lmao Percy are you reading the game? Tom saying that my THICC posts aren’t alignment indicative turned into people scum reading me for them

Also how nice of you to show up when people are askin so to kill yo

[Percy Williams]

What?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Downer

That’s you right now

I really don't get the context, but it isn't the first time.

I just feel completely lost in this game, that's why I suspect the good players are all scum.

If you're right, I'm a complete Townclear.

[TrPrado]

I’m drunk and on public WiFi and asked for question but got none. You’re all scum you fucking scummiest

[Percy Williams]

Who even actually town reads me? Lmao Percy are you reading the game? Tom saying that my THICC posts aren’t alignment indicative turned into people scum reading me for them

Also how nice of you to show up when people are askin so to kill yo

I start at the back, and work forward, so feel free to think of me as mean, and not nice.

And yes, I do read the game, otherwise I wouldn't post that I'm behind on the thread, I'd just say random things like "Chippe is so obv scum, cut out the fake anger." and be more town read than I am now.

There are a LOT of people posting in this game, but from what I recall people at worst thought it was non alignment Indicative, with a solid base of People still thinking you were town from it(although admittedly all th people that come to mind are new/lurky).

[Percy Williams]

I’m drunk and on public WiFi and asked for question but got none. You’re all scum you fucking scummiest

Here's a question: why have you refused to answer TrPrado's question to you, viz: "How are you so awesome?"

[TrPrado]

I’m drunk and on public WiFi and asked for question but got none. You’re all scum you fucking scummiest

Here's a question: why have you refused to answer TrPrado's question to you, viz: "How are you so awesome?"

It ansrmwere itself an is a self aggrandizing joke

Rhetorical and not meant to be answered

Just geared

[et]

##Assassinate Nephthys
I wrote my reading list.
I will explain in the rist why I read Nephthys as scum.

[et]

I brushed up my reading, mainly thanks to Day2 moving.

Reading list

Most towny
Tom
In my thought, Tom tried to decieve scums by post and vote Day2. His behavior is very profitable for town.

Durga
Durga thought about EP and me very seriously to last of Eod2. And after she read EP with confidence, she defend EP desperately.

TrPrado
His thought of claime role was original one. And he thought EP as scum before Judge use role power.

Squigs
His questions for me and EP was detailed and intrinsically.

Towny
Chippe
I think scum can't do such a thing as.

Rdr
Reason of Rdr reading me as scum is understandable.

Flav
Flav was just 1 person followed Tom's swinging vote.

Middle
Balki
His post at Day1 was very towny.
He voted EP Day2 because of Durga's request role claiming.
But today, he voted TrPrad, who tried to prevent role claiming most strongly.

Fox
Fox hoped tie at Day2. Fox didn't talked about detailed reason voting EP.
ip want to know how Fox feel about near by Eod2.

Percy
I thought Percy very towny at Day1.
But Percy lurked Day2.

Xorxes
Xorxes followed Tom's (in my thought, fake)reason of voting EP.

Scummy
ND
ND's top scumread was Chippe at start of Day2.
ND voted me without rereading post of EP.
And today, ND voted me, not Chippe.

damo
damo voted me at first Day2.
And damo changed vote and followed TrPrad.

Nephthys
Nephthys obviously caught up thread and was't active Day1.
Nephthys said me sus at Night1 without reason and don't talked about Espresso.
But Nephthys voted Espresso Day2. Firstly no reason and nextry followed TrPrad's reason.
I think Nephthys don't reading other players.

Null
Teacon
I read Teacon in Day1.
But almost all Day2, Teacon absent.

con
Peter

[et]

Sorry, revote.
##Assassinate Nephthys

[ChippeRock]

I brushed up my reading, mainly thanks to Day2 moving.

Reading list

Most towny
Tom
In my thought, Tom tried to decieve scums by post and vote Day2. His behavior is very profitable for town.

Durga
Durga thought about EP and me very seriously to last of Eod2. And after she read EP with confidence, she defend EP desperately.

TrPrado
His thought of claime role was original one. And he thought EP as scum before Judge use role power.

Squigs
His questions for me and EP was detailed and intrinsically.

Towny
Chippe
I think scum can't do such a thing as.

Rdr
Reason of Rdr reading me as scum is understandable.

Flav
Flav was just 1 person followed Tom's swinging vote.

Middle
Balki
His post at Day1 was very towny.
He voted EP Day2 because of Durga's request role claiming.
But today, he voted TrPrad, who tried to prevent role claiming most strongly.

Fox
Fox hoped tie at Day2. Fox didn't talked about detailed reason voting EP.
ip want to know how Fox feel about near by Eod2.

Percy
I thought Percy very towny at Day1.
But Percy lurked Day2.

Xorxes
Xorxes followed Tom's (in my thought, fake)reason of voting EP.

Scummy
ND
ND's top scumread was Chippe at start of Day2.
ND voted me without rereading post of EP.
And today, ND voted me, not Chippe.

damo
damo voted me at first Day2.
And damo changed vote and followed TrPrad.

Nephthys
Nephthys obviously caught up thread and was't active Day1.
Nephthys said me sus at Night1 without reason and don't talked about Espresso.
But Nephthys voted Espresso Day2. Firstly no reason and nextry followed TrPrad's reason.
I think Nephthys don't reading other players.

Null
Teacon
I read Teacon in Day1.
But almost all Day2, Teacon absent.

con
Peter

I'd just like to point out that the "votes" for who the Blind Assassin have no official recognition in the game. While the votes can certainly still be used for reads, the Blind Assassin can still kill whomever he (or she) wants to kill. They just don't hold the same weight as the Day votes for lynching.

[ChippeRock]

Sorry, revote.
##Assassinate Nephthys

I think you are confused about these Night "votes".

You see, they are not actual votes - the Blind Assassin can still kill whoever he (or she) wants to kill, and the Blind Assassin is not bound by them.

They mean nothing really, they can be used for your reads, but the only thing they could do is *maybe*, just maybe, the Blind Assassin will NK someone from this "vote" count.

[TrPrado]

I’m sobering up you missed your window you LOSERS

[ChippeRock]

I’m sobering up you missed your window you LOSERS

I'm just saying, but you're the one that no one wanted to talk to... Though I'm sure that's a daily occurrence for you.

[TrPrado]

I’m sobering up you missed your window you LOSERS

I'm just saying, but you're the one that no one wanted to talk to... Though I'm sure that's a daily occurrence for you.

Wow disk

[TrPrado]

I’m a joy