MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[brainbomb]

Why do you think it would be normal for him to doc save tom - assume tom was a solid nk possibility; and the following morning he lynches tom without any real concern or question. You found that normal behavior?

It isn't normal to docsave Tom, but it is absolutely bizarre for scum to have to make up who they should be doc-saving and then actively say "Tom" when the obvious answer is "y2k" or "brainbomb" or "flash" or some semiclear person. I mean, even he has to be smarter than that. I hope.

Its not that weird he chose tom at all. Toms dead. If he says he saved damo-me-y2k he has to weigh in on validity of a living clears alignment. Toms dead af- and isnt gonna be able to ask why.

[DemonRHK]

RD is the scum guys. I've laid that shit out in crayon.

[brainbomb]

Worcej flipping scum proves he had armor and proves rivera is town.

[brainbomb]

Not only would we get rid of a scum we also potentially clear rivera

[DemonRHK]

Worcej flipping scum proves he had armor and proves rivera is town.

Or flips our 2nd doc kit if he's town.

[brainbomb]

Worcej flipping scum proves he had armor and proves rivera is town.

Or flips our 2nd doc kit if he's town.

Im aware of the risk I just think his meltdown last night under a 2 vote wagon was too dramatic. Hes giving me scum vibes bigtime. Why is he town drhk?

[DemonRHK]

Worcej flipping scum proves he had armor and proves rivera is town.

Or flips our 2nd doc kit if he's town.

Im aware of the risk I just think his meltdown last night under a 2 vote wagon was too dramatic. Hes giving me scum vibes bigtime. Why is he town drhk?

I'm not saying he is. I'm saying I have a case that to me is much more solid on RD

[brainbomb]

Or flips our 2nd doc kit if he's town.

Im aware of the risk I just think his meltdown last night under a 2 vote wagon was too dramatic. Hes giving me scum vibes bigtime. Why is he town drhk?

I'm not saying he is. I'm saying I have a case that to me is much more solid on RD

Can you re-explain it for this old goat

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count 4.14

Durga (3) - ND, worcej, y2kjbk
ND (3) - rdrivera2005, Durga(END), Vecna
worcej (2) - yavuzovic, Brainbomb
yavuzovic (1) - flash2015
rdrivera2005 (1) - DemonRHK

Currently NOBODY is set to be lynched.

You have 2 hours and 27 minutes. This will be my last VC for around about two hours.

[DemonRHK]

Quoting myself:

Can you enumerate (again?) the coincidences informing your read?

>xorx makes a post close to end of night that I see as crumbing he was scanning RD (“when someone is in my radar...”)
>xorx then dies with a nurse kit still in play
>RD claims roleblocked, THEN LATER claims he had two items to claim, saying he wants to reveal LAST (avoid possible cc’s?), and then FINALLY claims sticky + armor to try to counter Yavu retracting armor for electro

My issues are thus:
- If scum is worried about xorx indeed scanning, why do you not roleblock him with the nurse’s kit in play to make sure it doesn’t go off?
- xorx, Vecna, ND, and RD all were players without claims or accepted crumbs (Worc was widely believed to be an armor crumb, and Yavu had claimed armor as well) This is four players, and if they hadn’t hit it that is a significant chance to hit the shield.

I propose the following:
- scum rb’d and killed xorx, fearing he was repaired cop scanning RD
- when xorx flipped RD claimed rb having tested the viability of claiming it with Durga the night before.
-RD then claims two items, BUT not WHAT two items, allowing him to rotate the claim from thief/head to repair/cop to sticky/??? As needed to discredit people.
-RD then finally claims sticky and armor trying to get Yavu lynched, knowing he will get two kills for one if successful (note: this wouldn’t clear Yavu as it could have been a bus. RD would bus his mother for a nickel)

RD is scum and made a slick play. But N2 makes no sense if xorx wasn’t roleblocked.

[brainbomb]

Quoting myself:

Can you enumerate (again?) the coincidences informing your read?

>xorx makes a post close to end of night that I see as crumbing he was scanning RD (“when someone is in my radar...”)
>xorx then dies with a nurse kit still in play
>RD claims roleblocked, THEN LATER claims he had two items to claim, saying he wants to reveal LAST (avoid possible cc’s?), and then FINALLY claims sticky + armor to try to counter Yavu retracting armor for electro

My issues are thus:
- If scum is worried about xorx indeed scanning, why do you not roleblock him with the nurse’s kit in play to make sure it doesn’t go off?
- xorx, Vecna, ND, and RD all were players without claims or accepted crumbs (Worc was widely believed to be an armor crumb, and Yavu had claimed armor as well) This is four players, and if they hadn’t hit it that is a significant chance to hit the shield.

I propose the following:
- scum rb’d and killed xorx, fearing he was repaired cop scanning RD
- when xorx flipped RD claimed rb having tested the viability of claiming it with Durga the night before.
-RD then claims two items, BUT not WHAT two items, allowing him to rotate the claim from thief/head to repair/cop to sticky/??? As needed to discredit people.
-RD then finally claims sticky and armor trying to get Yavu lynched, knowing he will get two kills for one if successful (note: this wouldn’t clear Yavu as it could have been a bus. RD would bus his mother for a nickel)

RD is scum and made a slick play. But N2 makes no sense if xorx wasn’t roleblocked.

Omg! Good catch dude holy crap. So xorxes grabbed investigator ??

[brainbomb]

##Vote rdrivera

Wow.

[brainbomb]

I definetely didnt see xorx crumbing repair kit / investigator

[brainbomb]

Xorxes
↑y2kjbk: "at this point i bet i'm dead even if i'm wrong because if i'm wrong, the right scum would want to potentially set up the..."
y2k, I wouldn't worry too much if I were you. You are the safest of all the clears


Okay.

Yea I see it now.

[brainbomb]

Y2k is for sure town. Uhm. Sorry. That was uhhh awkward then

[DemonRHK]

It was my interpretation. Let me quote so you can draw yours:

I am not obsessed with you scumreading me. I just find weird you question all my actions and look them as scummy and didn't do the same with other players. Like it's an easy way to look like scum hunting.

Well, I'm sorry if I question all your actions. That's what I do when someone gets on my radar.

If you had done something that gave me a clear town vibe, I would let down, but that hasn't happened yet. Your vote for Squigs could easily have been a bus, and you voting for ND only tells me you are not likely scum together, but I still think one of you two probably is.

Because I'm getting some town vibes from yavu now, my suspicion of ND-ghug has gone up, and therefore my suspicion of you gone down.

[brainbomb]

Theres probably a silver lining where y2k and myself tore each other to peices on the slimmest of avenues over nothing. Kinda funny. Ill probably never forget how paranoid he made me haha

[brainbomb]

I dont think hes saying he will scan rdrivera. But anyone who saw that would probably assume hes got repair kit/investigator

[Durga]

It was my interpretation. Let me quote so you can draw yours:

I am not obsessed with you scumreading me. I just find weird you question all my actions and look them as scummy and didn't do the same with other players. Like it's an easy way to look like scum hunting.

Well, I'm sorry if I question all your actions. That's what I do when someone gets on my radar.

If you had done something that gave me a clear town vibe, I would let down, but that hasn't happened yet. Your vote for Squigs could easily have been a bus, and you voting for ND only tells me you are not likely scum together, but I still think one of you two probably is.

Because I'm getting some town vibes from yavu now, my suspicion of ND-ghug has gone up, and therefore my suspicion of you gone down.

I genuinely don't see this as a crumb but I forgot rd claimed his shit after yavu retreacted.

[y2kjbk]

alright, I'm sold, the xorxes NK is most explained by ##VOTE rdrivera