M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[ghug]

We could see if there's someone else out there to claim UB if we're that concerned.

This is actually not the worst idea. A one-shot governor isn't that valuable for town.

I think I like this idea too, as even with scum knowing who UB is (if he isn't scum) they can't know his target. And if he lies about his target we have a caught scum. The only downsize is decreasing the pool for the other PRs.

I wonder if that's a net neutral though, in that it gives investigative roles more to go on.

We're likely going to need to massclaim in the next day or two anyway.

[rdrivera2005]

This is actually not the worst idea. A one-shot governor isn't that valuable for town.

I think I like this idea too, as even with scum knowing who UB is (if he isn't scum) they can't know his target. And if he lies about his target we have a caught scum. The only downsize is decreasing the pool for the other PRs.

I wonder if that's a net neutral though, in that it gives investigative roles more to go on.

We're likely going to need to massclaim in the next day or two anyway.

I will be last to claim.

[Jamiet99uk]

We're likely going to need to massclaim in the next day or two anyway.

I will be last to claim.

Highly amusing.

[ghug]

What do you think of making the UB claim, Jamie?

[damo666]

What do you think of making the UB claim, Jamie?

he won't, he's FH

[ghug]

What do you think of making the UB claim, Jamie?

he won't, he's FH

Shoot, I meant to ask in the QT.

[damo666]

What do you think of making the UB claim, Jamie?

he won't, he's FH

Shoot, I meant to ask in the QT.

[Jamiet99uk]

What do you think of making the UB claim, Jamie?

I'm not entirely persuaded.

Try to persuade me. Why do you think it's a great idea? Talk me through it.

[dargorygel]

Personally, I liked the vote count better when it was 3-3-3, with bunny and seth having to come in after a day's silence.

[dargorygel]

If we mailed in our votes, would it take worcej and donny a month to count them?

[ghug]

What do you think of making the UB claim, Jamie?

I'm not entirely persuaded.

Try to persuade me. Why do you think it's a great idea? Talk me through it.

I'm not entirely persuaded myself, but I can make the case.

• If scum have it, it makes it very awkward to use it, especially on a teammate, without betraying their scumminess.

• It allows us to effectively plan around it in voting (put the UB in second place, for example, and they'll likely tell us if they protected the leader).

• As a corollary to the above, it prevents people from using the Governor as an excuse to not vote for someone.

• It tells the investigative roles some useful information: why player X may have visited someone, whether they have a plausible excuse if they visited a dead person, when they can act, what sort of action they have. These should help our investigators build a clearer picture of the game without necessitating a mass claim.

• It seems like a decent role for scum to have taken.

• The role is more useful for scum (who can surprise save themselves at KILO) than it is for town.

The big con is that it helps scum build a clearer picture of the game too.

[ghug]

Hi Macca.

[kgray]

(scum may continue the defeatism)

damo can cheer us up, he gave such a rousing pep talk earlier.

But yeah. Sorry.

[Donny Dude]

Votecount 4.2
Macca573 --(3) Vecna, dargorygel, rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 --(3) ghug, kgray, damo666
kgray --(2) Chaqa, Macca573
ghug --(1) Jamiet99uk
Bunny and seth have yet to vote.

[ghug]

Votecount 4.2
Macca573 --(3) Vecna, dargorygel, rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 --(3) ghug, kgray, damo666
kgray --(2) Chaqa, Macca573
ghug --(1) Jamiet99uk
Bunny and seth have yet to vote.

You forgot Flum.

[Jamiet99uk]

Votecount 4.2
Macca573 --(3) Vecna, dargorygel, rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 --(3) ghug, kgray, damo666
kgray --(2) Chaqa, Macca573
ghug --(1) Jamiet99uk
Bunny and seth have yet to vote.

##CALL GM

Does Fluminator's vote not count?

[Donny Dude]

Votecount 4.2
Macca573 --(3) Vecna, dargorygel, rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 --(3) ghug, kgray, damo666
kgray --(2) Chaqa, Macca573
ghug --(1) Jamiet99uk
Bunny and seth have yet to vote.

You forgot Flum.

Gm note: oops
Votecount 4.21 Correction
Macca573 --(3) Vecna, dargorygel, rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 --(3) ghug, kgray, damo666
kgray --(2) Chaqa, Macca573
ghug --(1) Jamiet99uk
Jamiet99uk --(1) Fluminator
Bunny and seth have yet to vote.

[Donny Dude]

Votecount 4.2
Macca573 --(3) Vecna, dargorygel, rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 --(3) ghug, kgray, damo666
kgray --(2) Chaqa, Macca573
ghug --(1) Jamiet99uk
Bunny and seth have yet to vote.

##CALL GM

Does Fluminator's vote not count?

It does. I missed it.

[kgray]

If the gov power was already used, then UB should definitely claim, right? So we know we don't have to worry about it?

[ghug]

If the gov power was already used, then UB should definitely claim, right? So we know we don't have to worry about it?

I think the same concerns apply regardless.