M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[Fluminator]

If you guys kill Vecna and he flips town, you have to promise me you kill flash next.

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote flash

[Durga]

I think it would be incredibly short sighted to kill Vecna today. I still town read him, and he's waaay more valuable to us it would be hella stupid to potentially miskill him

Is he? Where is his value? He's posted over 6000 words today that consist almost entirely of a discussion where I had to draw blood from a stone to get him to explain his scumread on you, a crackpot conspiracy theory that makes no sense whatsoever, and a hardcore chainsaw on seth.

Your opinion on this is invalid because you're the object of his tunnel

[Hellenic Riot]

I feel like Bozo hit the nail on the head when it came to the Vecna/Seth interactions over the last couple days but came up with the wrong conclusion entirely: Vecna isn't scum with seth, he's scum pocketting Seth so that he can take him down with him.

[ghug]

Indeed at this point the way Vecna has managed to continually circle back to defending seth over any and every little thing is reminding me strongly of my own scumplay from M57 when I continually tied myself into defending emc so that if people scumread me they automatically put us as a pair.

This had crossed my mind as well.

[Vecna]

I think it would be incredibly short sighted to kill Vecna today. I still town read him, and he's waaay more valuable to us it would be hella stupid to potentially miskill him

Is he? Where is his value? He's posted over 6000 words today that consist almost entirely of a discussion where I had to draw blood from a stone to get him to explain his scumread on you, a crackpot conspiracy theory that makes no sense whatsoever, and a hardcore chainsaw on seth.

I might be entirely wrong about you. Theres been a bunch of stuff that has given me pause. But id rather be wrong that have the feeling afterwards I shouldve just blurted out the stuff that was on my mind and have letten you gotten away.

I shouldve switched last second to flash as well for the gunshot. Captain hindsight is a strong force.

[ghug]

If you guys kill Vecna and he flips town, you have to promise me you kill flash next.

I ain't promising shit, but I'm happy to see flash flip.

[Hellenic Riot]

I think it would be incredibly short sighted to kill Vecna today. I still town read him, and he's waaay more valuable to us it would be hella stupid to potentially miskill him

Is he? Where is his value? He's posted over 6000 words today that consist almost entirely of a discussion where I had to draw blood from a stone to get him to explain his scumread on you, a crackpot conspiracy theory that makes no sense whatsoever, and a hardcore chainsaw on seth.

Your opinion on this is invalid because you're the object of his tunnel

Well given you openly admitted you weren't even reading half his posts earlier in this day when the topic of conversation was his scumread of you, I'm not sure what validity you anticipate your own opinion to have

[seth24c]

Seth - why aren’t you voting one of your counter wagons? Do you townread both flash and Vecna?

I don’t, but I am yet to be convinced that either are scum. I honestly forgot that today is eod.

[Fluminator]

If you guys kill Vecna and he flips town, you have to promise me you kill flash next.

I ain't promising shit, but I'm happy to see flash flip.

Can you vote flash instead of Vecna this one round for me?
Vecna isn't leaving the limelight anytime soon. People who suspect flash are rapidly getting killed though.

[seth24c]

You think Flum was like "teammate, other teammate, let's all vote teammate together to establish a towncore" and we were both like "yes, teammate, ##VOTE teammate, woo towncore"?

I feel like Flum is the one that gets bussed if he tries that.

To be fair, if anyone would do this, it's probably Flum.

Yeah, and honestly I might even play along with it, but I see this as Seth finding Flum suspicious for doing Flummy things, which means he doesn't understand that Flum does Flummy things.

Also Moscow would have a fucking aneurysm.

I know that flum does things like this because he was scum last game when I was traitor. And yes out of the three Moscow is probably the most likely to have still been town if scum flum actually did what I think he could have done.

[ghug]

If you guys kill Vecna and he flips town, you have to promise me you kill flash next.

I ain't promising shit, but I'm happy to see flash flip.

Can you vote flash instead of Vecna this one round for me?
Vecna isn't leaving the limelight anytime soon. People who suspect flash are rapidly getting killed though.

Can you expand upon this thought? Who has died to cover flash? Why would scum want to protect flash over someone useful?

I'll be voting flash over Seth if it comes to it.

[ghug]

To be fair, if anyone would do this, it's probably Flum.

Yeah, and honestly I might even play along with it, but I see this as Seth finding Flum suspicious for doing Flummy things, which means he doesn't understand that Flum does Flummy things.

Also Moscow would have a fucking aneurysm.

I know that flum does things like this because he was scum last game when I was traitor. And yes out of the three Moscow is probably the most likely to have still been town if scum flum actually did what I think he could have done.

Even assuming this could have been done by scum, what's the motivation that makes it more likely scum than random townie behavior?

[Durga]

Is he? Where is his value? He's posted over 6000 words today that consist almost entirely of a discussion where I had to draw blood from a stone to get him to explain his scumread on you, a crackpot conspiracy theory that makes no sense whatsoever, and a hardcore chainsaw on seth.

Your opinion on this is invalid because you're the object of his tunnel

Well given you openly admitted you weren't even reading half his posts earlier in this day when the topic of conversation was his scumread of you, I'm not sure what validity you anticipate your own opinion to have

Ah, those posts I skimmed over held the world's truth, did they?

[kgray]

I ain't promising shit, but I'm happy to see flash flip.

Can you vote flash instead of Vecna this one round for me?
Vecna isn't leaving the limelight anytime soon. People who suspect flash are rapidly getting killed though.

Can you expand upon this thought? Who has died to cover flash? Why would scum want to protect flash over someone useful?

I'll be voting flash over Seth if it comes to it.

Yeah, same for me.

[Hellenic Riot]

The best part about Vecna claiming that the scum protected Flash by getting Damo shot is that Vecna is the person who took it from a 4-4 tie between to Damo being 5-3 up over Flash.

[Durga]

I mean all flash did was pop in, get angry about being voted by 4(?) people, and not engage with anything else. I'm pretty happy with everyone on this wagon too

[Durga]

The best part about Vecna claiming that the scum protected Flash by getting Damo shot is that Vecna is the person who took it from a 4-4 tie between to Damo being 5-3 up over Flash.

Ok this is a little funny

[Fluminator]

I ain't promising shit, but I'm happy to see flash flip.

Can you vote flash instead of Vecna this one round for me?
Vecna isn't leaving the limelight anytime soon. People who suspect flash are rapidly getting killed though.

Can you expand upon this thought? Who has died to cover flash? Why would scum want to protect flash over someone useful?

I'll be voting flash over Seth if it comes to it.

It's hypocritical because I've been daykilling them too.
But in Mafia 54 I remember every person I miskilled died telling me to kill xorx and then it was too late to get the people vote him when I clued in.

I'm a little spooked that the last two people I miskilled died saying flash was scum lol. I'd suspect scum to be more keen to piggyback off flash suspicion if he was town. Usually flash is an easy target.

Flash is also just acting so weird this game.

[ghug]

I mean all flash did was pop in, get angry about being voted by 4(?) people, and not engage with anything else. I'm pretty happy with everyone on this wagon too

Who do you think are flash's teammates?