M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[ghug]

I think it is possible you all decided to put pressure early in the phase and didn’t really have much choice but to bus since summit never showed up to put forth any type of defense at all.

You think Flum was like "teammate, other teammate, let's all vote teammate together to establish a towncore" and we were both like "yes, teammate, ##VOTE teammate, woo towncore"?

I feel like Flum is the one that gets bussed if he tries that.

To be fair, if anyone would do this, it's probably Flum.

Yeah, and honestly I might even play along with it, but I see this as Seth finding Flum suspicious for doing Flummy things, which means he doesn't understand that Flum does Flummy things.

Also Moscow would have a fucking aneurysm.

[kgray]

@Vecna, the first reaction HR had was this:

I've been in invisible mode ever since these forums were added, and have never once turned it off.

Which is exactly what I'd expect form someone who's always been in invisible mode regardless of alignment. I have no idea how you think this response indicates he felt caught.

Because I would expect ridicule after I just omgus him with that logic after he just voted me if its actually true that he's never been shown as online.

I think if you claim you saw something that he thinks is impossible, his reaction is pretty natural. I'm sure you'll disagree with me, but I think if he immediately started ridiculing you and jumped all over you when you made a weird offhand comment, that would have been overly defensive and much scummier.

[kgray]

https://i.gyazo.com/c75b27691d79fcb8c64 ... 7e2b7c.png

Proof enough I ain't Prado-green for you?

Interestingly enough, I am not showing my own name in italics. Does that indicate youre in invisible mode?

Yes.

[worcej]

Can you be a little more specific about what's bothering you about flum and ghug? It's fine if it's still general, not asking you to pull quotes or anything and I don't care about it being presented well.

I get a sense of arrogance from Flum that just rubs me the wrong way. It's a gut feeling, which isn't a case as you already know. It just feels the same way as the first version of this game.

ghug's aggressiveness seems a little over the top than normal. That's the best way to phrase it.

[Donny Dude]

Vecna, what is your point on the invisable thing and how it relates to HR.

[worcej]

This is pretty much my poe pool for scum now. I townread pretty much everyone else, or have reasons to be ok with them.

Pretty big suspicion:
Durga
Hellenic Riot
damo666
flash2015

Maniac
Nanook

seth24c
(worcej)
Low'ish suspicion

feeling pretty good about these reads.

FWIW, this list was the first thing that made me question my thoughts on Vecna - I didn't understand how I suddenly fell at the bottom of his suspicion level rather quickly.

Your posts at the start of this day changed my mind instantly. I stated as much, and I got questioned on it. nearly 100% a gut read, but I really had good feelings.

The posting youre doing here just makes me stronger in that feeling (especially the interaction about the ghug-thing).

It was the quickness that you changed that made me go

Also, the ranking jump so high over others was also kinda weird, but I guess I can understand the reasoning based on the above statement.

[Durga]

Why would anyone lie ever about their online status

[ghug]

Two of our three candidates are rocking vanity votes

[ghug]

Why would anyone lie ever about their online status

Ask summit.

[Vecna]

I moved my vote from flash to Donny and then to seth, but I was only voting for flash because is was coming down to damo vs. flash at Tom's shooting deadline.

I think seth and Vecna as scum together fits.

Do you still think so once you realize I was very vocal about not-seth all of D2? And have done that for pretty much the entirety of the game?

The dude is town. Trying to protect your townreads is not scummy behavior.

Again, I could not find any record of you arguing against a seth wagon all of D2, only at the end of D2 when it was BunnyGo vs. seth.

Seth was the leading wagon untill from that post right untill 11 minutes before deadline. In that timeframe I posted all of the following:

viewtopic.php?p=179880#p179880

viewtopic.php?p=179883#p179883

viewtopic.php?p=179887#p179887

viewtopic.php?p=179927#p179927

viewtopic.php?p=179929#p179929

viewtopic.php?p=179930#p179930

viewtopic.php?p=179932#p179932

viewtopic.php?p=179951#p179951

viewtopic.php?p=180053#p180053

viewtopic.php?p=180058#p180058

viewtopic.php?p=180068#p180068

Was I still hedging? I think I made my opinion quite abundantly clear. Not sure why you'd leave that out of your case.

[kgray]

See, thats the response I wouldve expected straight off the bat. Not after I pointed it out. bit late.

How about you show yourself online for a bit?

Would prove my theory wrong in a heartbeat.

If youre not green or showing as a moderator, it just makes me look like a muppet instantly.

If you are green though, and you've never shown online, how would I know?

tbh you already look like a muppet for this

And HR isn't a mod... Sorry, but I don't understand why you're so obsessed with this. I feel like you're leaning too much into the tinfoily-theory town!Vecna meta but it doesn't feel genuine to me at all.

Also, I have no idea how im supposed to argue with any of the reasons you keep using to be suspicious of me.

Ill just keep quiet because im townreading you, and hope you somehow start seeing my intentions for what they are.

I don't know how you're supposed to argue with them either, but you're still doing the things I find suspicious. I've been pretty clear that my read of you is based on gut and a feeling that you're playing differently to what I know of your town game. Also I think the more mechanical things that bozo pointed out are as scum-indicative as any case on anybody else.

[Vecna]

I don't know what it means but I want to reiterate that I very specifically remember seeing HR online before EoN3 and hoping he didn't post his reads before the night ended like he did night 2.

With you I just honestly dont know if youre rediculing me or not

[ghug]

Can you be a little more specific about what's bothering you about flum and ghug? It's fine if it's still general, not asking you to pull quotes or anything and I don't care about it being presented well.

I get a sense of arrogance from Flum that just rubs me the wrong way. It's a gut feeling, which isn't a case as you already know. It just feels the same way as the first version of this game.

ghug's aggressiveness seems a little over the top than normal. That's the best way to phrase it.

The fuck did you just say about me?

[kgray]

Can you be a little more specific about what's bothering you about flum and ghug? It's fine if it's still general, not asking you to pull quotes or anything and I don't care about it being presented well.

I get a sense of arrogance from Flum that just rubs me the wrong way. It's a gut feeling, which isn't a case as you already know. It just feels the same way as the first version of this game.

ghug's aggressiveness seems a little over the top than normal. That's the best way to phrase it.

Thanks. imo Flum being arrogant really reminds me of town!Flum from M54, more than scum!Flum from the previous version of this game where I thought he was less bold about his antics.

[ghug]

I don't know what it means but I want to reiterate that I very specifically remember seeing HR online before EoN3 and hoping he didn't post his reads before the night ended like he did night 2.

With you I just honestly dont know if youre rediculing me or not

100% serious

Name was blue though.

Still probably town.

[Vecna]

Vecna, what is your point on the invisable thing and how it relates to HR.

I was hoping it was proof of my suspicions on HR being accurate. Sadly, only Ghug seems to think im right (and he might just be trolling me).

[Vecna]

I don't know what it means but I want to reiterate that I very specifically remember seeing HR online before EoN3 and hoping he didn't post his reads before the night ended like he did night 2.

With you I just honestly dont know if youre rediculing me or not

100% serious

Name was blue though.

Still probably town.

I know this will probably come off cheap or conveniently timed, but sorry for my dickhead'ish comment yesterday.

[ghug]

With you I just honestly dont know if youre rediculing me or not

100% serious

Name was blue though.

Still probably town.

I know this will probably come off cheap or conveniently timed, but sorry for my dickhead'ish comment yesterday.

I'm touched, and going to assume that you're saying this because you love me and not to try to get me to not vote you.

[Donny Dude]

Vecna, what is your point on the invisable thing and how it relates to HR.

I was hoping it was proof of my suspicions on HR being accurate. Sadly, only Ghug seems to think im right (and he might just be trolling me).

Has your read on Hr changed then?

[kgray]

I don't know what it means but I want to reiterate that I very specifically remember seeing HR online before EoN3 and hoping he didn't post his reads before the night ended like he did night 2.

With you I just honestly dont know if youre rediculing me or not

100% serious

Name was blue though.

Still probably town.

Maybe the invisible status thing has a bug or something. There's literally no scum motivation for someone to randomly decide to show their online status, go back into invisible mode, and lie about it.