M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[ghug]

Damo is the most suspicious looking at D1 as he quickly jumped off the summit wagon to vote Maniac when the flash push on manic happened

Why do we not agree on anything this game, Tom?

[Fluminator]

So far the defense of damo is that when he's scum he does literally nothing.

[seth24c]

If maniac is scum, then a lot of these thoughts are moot

Do you think he is scum?

[Tom Bombadil]

Damo is the most suspicious looking at D1 as he quickly jumped off the summit wagon to vote Maniac when the flash push on manic happened

Why do we not agree on anything this game, Tom?

Because you haven’t allowed Alice In Chains to awaken your mind.

[Tom Bombadil]

If maniac is scum, then a lot of these thoughts are moot

Do you think he is scum?

Sorta?

[ghug]

Is this you scum reading me? Or just trying to piss me off? Being rude to me is scummy

Just an assessment of the situation.

I believe your excuses and you hate bussing, so I'm giving you time to correct.

Correct what?? Your bones? I think it's kinda bs for you and Vecna to claim I haven't done anything AI just because I wasn't online much of D2.

What have you done that's AI?

Why do Vecna and I get shit and not Flum?

[Fluminator]

Damo is the most suspicious looking at D1 as he quickly jumped off the summit wagon to vote Maniac when the flash push on manic happened

Why do we not agree on anything this game, Tom?

I hard agree with Tom on this one

[kgray]

I also find his reaction to Chaqa’s claim quite towny - I don’t see scum Moscow posting “Let’s gooooooo” immediately after Chaqa’s cc, and then arguing with you about it

I bet scum were quite happy Chaqa needlessly counterclaimed lol

Yeah but they wouldn't react like Moscow did, I don't think. It'd be much better for scum to keep that bottled up. So Moscow's reaction seems way more likely to be excited about catching scum!summit than finding PR!Chaqa.

[seth24c]

Damo is the most suspicious looking at D1 as he quickly jumped off the summit wagon to vote Maniac when the flash push on manic happened

Why do we not agree on anything this game, Tom?

I hard agree with Tom on this one

Yeah as I laid out during the last night I think damo is extremely suspicious.

[Fluminator]

I forced myself to make a towniest to scummiest list. To be taken with a large dose of Sodium Chloiride.

TOWN

Flash
Tom
HR
Bozo
KGray
Maniac
Ghug
Nanook
Chaqa
TrPrado
Bunny
Worcej
Seth
Moscow
Vecna
Flum
Donny
Summit
Durga

SCUM

Reads change but I really want to know damo how your read on summit and maniac evolved so that you switched off summit onto maniac.

You said you started doubting summit was scum before the end, but I want to know why. Especially when he wasn't posting.

[ghug]

Damo is the most suspicious looking at D1 as he quickly jumped off the summit wagon to vote Maniac when the flash push on manic happened

Why do we not agree on anything this game, Tom?

I hard agree with Tom on this one

That giant, poorly reasoned post with all the possible teams seems like town damo. The D1 vote for the counterwagon with zero explanation also seems like town damo.

[ghug]

I forced myself to make a towniest to scummiest list. To be taken with a large dose of Sodium Chloiride.

TOWN

Flash
Tom
HR
Bozo
KGray
Maniac
Ghug
Nanook
Chaqa
TrPrado
Bunny
Worcej
Seth
Moscow
Vecna
Flum
Donny
Summit
Durga

SCUM

Reads change but I really want to know damo how your read on summit and maniac evolved so that you switched off summit onto maniac.

You said you started doubting summit was scum before the end, but I want to know why. Especially when he wasn't posting.

Hmm, this is a good point.

[seth24c]

I also find his reaction to Chaqa’s claim quite towny - I don’t see scum Moscow posting “Let’s gooooooo” immediately after Chaqa’s cc, and then arguing with you about it

I bet scum were quite happy Chaqa needlessly counterclaimed lol

Yeah but they wouldn't react like Moscow did, I don't think. It'd be much better for scum to keep that bottled up. So Moscow's reaction seems way more likely to be excited about catching scum!summit than finding PR!Chaqa.

This is true. We need to see more from Moscow but his vote and other posts at the end of day 1 are pretty strong.

[Durga]

Just an assessment of the situation.

I believe your excuses and you hate bussing, so I'm giving you time to correct.

Correct what?? Your bones? I think it's kinda bs for you and Vecna to claim I haven't done anything AI just because I wasn't online much of D2.

What have you done that's AI?

Why do Vecna and I get shit and not Flum?

Firstly I literally voted scum d1 how is that not AI

Two, I'm playing exactly the same as I always am, I'm just busy this week

Three, what did flum say?

[Fluminator]

Why do we not agree on anything this game, Tom?

I hard agree with Tom on this one

That giant, poorly reasoned post with all the possible teams seems like town damo. The D1 vote for the counterwagon with zero explanation also seems like town damo.

He decided basically all the people voting summit were town. That's super easy to fake and conclude.

[Vecna]

I'm not? If you go back to my EoN reads list as long ago as two nights you'll see that any townread I had on her has long been receding.

The fact of the matter is that you've gone into a lot of detail about why Damo and I might be scum and yet you put Durga as at least as strong a scumread as the pair of us without ever giving any explanation whatsoever for it, and now that I'm pressuring you on it you're choking like you have a mouthful of octopi

Its not like im completely certain of my scumread of the two of you, individually. But if you really wanna argue that im not being very capable of making arguments why Durga is exactly just as scummy as you or Damo......fine. Its arbitrary grouping, and not exact science. Who wouldve thought that such a thing is possible. I still felt the 4 of you were scummier than the people in the lower tiers though.

Now if thats really the type of points youre trying to score, youre not realy trying to sort shit, and Durga is actually right that its a waste of space argument.

No - I'm asking you a very straightforward question. You've explained why you think Damo is scum. You've explained why you think I'm scum. You have not explained why you think Durga is scum. And the more you try and muddy the waters around this, the longer you go without answering the question.

Hey, I at least like your persistence on the topic. I dont know why you think I couldnt bullshit some weaksauce reasoning together now, even if I had no proper reasoning, but youre really out to get it out of me.

The reasoning is simple; Durga is normally an easy easy read when she's town. She interacts a lot with people, either to further reads together, or to see how they respond (the usual durga-ghug shit for example). Here she somehow managed to get to 180 posts without giving me any of those signals. It feels like she's just talking at the game so far. What sorting has she actually done? Who has she bounced ideas off? Who has she attacked or fought over silly stuff to get a read off them? It was the same last game, where she also didnt seem to try to further us in finding scum very well, and I was also suspicious. At least there she was understanding of my sentiment and gave me signals.

Anyways, all the same, im willing to give her time. Maybe itll come back if she has more time.

[Hellenic Riot]

Is this you scum reading me? Or just trying to piss me off? Being rude to me is scummy

Just an assessment of the situation.

I believe your excuses and you hate bussing, so I'm giving you time to correct.

Correct what?? Your bones? I think it's kinda bs for you and Vecna to claim I haven't done anything AI just because I wasn't online much of D2.

Then why are you so keen to disregard the fact I'm pushing Vecna for exactly that?

[seth24c]

I hard agree with Tom on this one

That giant, poorly reasoned post with all the possible teams seems like town damo. The D1 vote for the counterwagon with zero explanation also seems like town damo.

He decided basically all the people voting summit were town. That's super easy to fake and conclude.

He has also been trying to push that narrative since the flip happened. Day two it was a large part of the wagons he was pushing. Which would be easy to do without pushing his scum teammates and still appearing town if most of his other teammates were deeper on the summit wagon.

[ghug]

Correct what?? Your bones? I think it's kinda bs for you and Vecna to claim I haven't done anything AI just because I wasn't online much of D2.

What have you done that's AI?

Why do Vecna and I get shit and not Flum?

Firstly I literally voted scum d1 how is that not AI

Two, I'm playing exactly the same as I always am, I'm just busy this week

Three, what did flum say?

1. I acknowledged this.
2. This is the definition of not AI.
3. He voted for you.

[kgray]

I forced myself to make a towniest to scummiest list. To be taken with a large dose of Sodium Chloiride.

TOWN

Flash
Tom
HR
Bozo
KGray
Maniac
Ghug
Nanook
Chaqa
TrPrado
Bunny
Worcej
Seth
Moscow
Vecna
Flum
Donny
Summit
Durga

SCUM

Reads change but I really want to know damo how your read on summit and maniac evolved so that you switched off summit onto maniac.

You said you started doubting summit was scum before the end, but I want to know why. Especially when he wasn't posting.

Hmm, this is a good point.

How do you think that's a good point given that you literally just said damo not explaining things is town!damo?