Mafia 57 Matrix

[therul]

##vote summit
Following the white rabbit (not a claim)
I am not normally a follower, but I need a start.

Is there a reason you think I'm scum?

It says it all right there. I don't know you enough to have a suspicion yet.
But Rabbit joined the train, and I am 75% certain that Rabbit is not scum, and am willing to bet on Rabbit's intuition. So I will see where this train leads.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote bismarck

Bismarck has provided no scumreads. He normally has strong and early opinions and this day should be producing those in spades.

This post gives me strange mixed feelings. On one side Bismarck have been scummy compared to his town game on the other side he is an easy pick, with HR already pushing him. Humm.

@summit - Can you give other reads?

I mean I've been pushing him for quite a while and other than summit, nobody else has joined. And the second that summit did, a bunch of people voted him. Is Bismarck really that easy a push?

I don't know, Bismarck have been more on the lurker side. I remember him being obvtown in a game, but this game he is just null, with posts about art and a vote on Damo when Damo was top wagon I think.

[bozotheclown]

Hi Bismark. I see you here. Any comments on why you thought there were 5 scum?

Hi BunnyGo,

It was clear in the signup thread, that Flum had pre-determined the splits according to how many players there were. From memory of that thread, if there were 17 players (the minimum I presume) then there were to be 3 scum and 1 3P, rising to 5 scum and 1 3P if there were 23 players (the maximum I also presume). So, since the Matrix materialised with 23 players, I simply remembered that thread. I also noticed that the numbers hadn't been updated by Flum in his flavour post, but others had already commented on that by the time I joined the thread on page 8.

This is a reasonable explanation by Bismark, but I could not find anyone pointing out the errors in the setup in the first 8 pages, and Bismark did not respond to my question about it.

[Hellenic Riot]

This post gives me strange mixed feelings. On one side Bismarck have been scummy compared to his town game on the other side he is an easy pick, with HR already pushing him. Humm.

@summit - Can you give other reads?

I mean I've been pushing him for quite a while and other than summit, nobody else has joined. And the second that summit did, a bunch of people voted him. Is Bismarck really that easy a push?

I don't know, Bismarck have been more on the lurker side. I remember him being obvtown in a game, but this game he is just null, with posts about art and a vote on Damo when Damo was top wagon I think.

Has he been that lurky? He's made an average number of posts and most of them have been pretty wordy, but like you said, his wagon vote on damo is the only thing he's done that could remotely be considered to be 'scumhunting'. If you isolate him on the Bot, it just does not read like he's actually been trying to find the mafia at any point.

[rdrivera2005]

I mean I've been pushing him for quite a while and other than summit, nobody else has joined. And the second that summit did, a bunch of people voted him. Is Bismarck really that easy a push?

Bismarck was miskilled on day 2 of M55. He had a very low number of posts.

I wasn't in M55, but I tend to rate the ease of a wagon on how many people will consider flipping to it - And there's certainly been very few signs of people being happy to join this one.

Because he has only 1 vote and EOD is far away. Closer to EOD wagons like this could get traction as people have more townreads on active players and choose to consolidate on alternative (it's how Macca was lynched last game).

[bozotheclown]

I just picked up a 3 hour warning... Do we actually have an actual deadline?

Yes, in about 2.5 hours now.

[bozotheclown]

I just picked up a 3 hour warning... Do we actually have an actual deadline?

Yes, in about 2.5 hours now.

The bot also shows you that information.

[e.m.c^42]

Hmm, TFB apparently has been online, but hasn't posted more than that one anchor yet.

[bozotheclown]

I have a hard time seeing summit draw scum for the first time and play it by posting 1 time in the first 44 hours.

[therul]

I just picked up a 3 hour warning... Do we actually have an actual deadline?

Yes, in about 2.5 hours now.

The bot also shows you that information.

Thank you I just found that. Not used to having a hard deadline, unless the game stalls. Thanks.
I should vote you for being the only reason WGN exists. But that is not game related.

[goldfinger0303]

Okay, I don't think Fox's pettiness is worth putting a vote on at EOD.

##vote flash

As much as I want to join two of my top townreads on summit, it exploded too fast for me and there's some explicit sheeping and unexplained votes on it.

The whole interaction between flash and summit was jarring, but flash just blew up a wagon and peaced and nobody is talking about it.

[e.m.c^42]

I have a hard time seeing summit draw scum for the first time and play it by posting 1 time in the first 44 hours.

Scum, unlikely, but as 3P? Not implausible, I played similarly.

[summit_fever]

I have a hard time seeing summit draw scum for the first time and play it by posting 1 time in the first 44 hours.

ding ding ding

[goldfinger0303]

And... importantly here....besides the (admittedly bad) snark from summit, what was substantially different between flash and summit's posts?

[Foxcastle]

##VOTE summit fever

Ties are bad

You're concerned about a tie three hours out?

Came here to say this.

[bozotheclown]

Yes, in about 2.5 hours now.

The bot also shows you that information.

Thank you I just found that. Not used to having a hard deadline, unless the game stalls. Thanks.
I should vote you for being the only reason WGN exists. But that is not game related.

Are you from Chicago?

[Tom Bombadil]

I find that observation by bozo credible.

##vote flash

[Foxcastle]

Really not liking Summit's look since he showed back up...

[ghug]

##VOTE summit

Coming in with confidence after all that silence is sketchy, Goldie hedged the fuck out of him, and I don't like people who say things like "powerwolf" (or the general sentiment that came with that statement).

[therul]

The bot also shows you that information.

Thank you I just found that. Not used to having a hard deadline, unless the game stalls. Thanks.
I should vote you for being the only reason WGN exists. But that is not game related.

Are you from Chicago?

no. But I did work in TV for a while (engineering/board op) and it was all over the cable for awhile.