MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

he rolled inventor
decided to lay low

[rdrivera2005]

I'll be doing full reads later which will cover some wagon analysis

Terrific. If it is not too much of a bother, in the future could you use the quote function when quoting? For one, credibility, and two, it saves everyone the time from searching up and double checking all the quotes :D

I don't know how to put more than one quote in a post. I mean quotes that aren't related. Any advice welcome.

You just write "(quote) the text you want to quote(/quote)" changing ( for [ and ) for ] or you use the " button on the text editor.

[Vaporwave]

Kitsune is worldwide townread

She reminds me of Frozen Angel, very involved, curious and always wanting to better herself

[rdrivera2005]

does anyone remember a cool and mighty player called yuuki?

what happened to him?

I miss Yukki too, last game he gave scumteam a hardtime.

[rdrivera2005]

Kitsune is worldwide townread

She reminds me of Frozen Angel, very involved, curious and always wanting to better herself

Who is Frozen Angel?

[Vaporwave]

think there's that 'eliminate for a day and night' power that mafia have

[brainbomb]

Kitsune is worldwide townread

She reminds me of Frozen Angel, very involved, curious and always wanting to better herself

Other than threatening to kill her baby over a mafia game
and scowling at everyone

yea I see virtually no comparison
FA is probably one of the most egotistical people to ever play mafia.
and this is coming from me.

I told her to throw herself into a volcano last time I had to suffer thru her

[Vaporwave]

Kitsune is worldwide townread

She reminds me of Frozen Angel, very involved, curious and always wanting to better herself

Who is Frozen Angel?

a goddess from mafiascum.net

[brainbomb]

FA makes durga look like the friendly bear on the laundry detergent bottle

[Vaporwave]

yikes

I'm not familiar with personal details, all I know is that she plays great on MS

[brainbomb]

she is banned from mu for death threats

[e.m.c^42]

I'll be doing full reads later which will cover some wagon analysis

Terrific. If it is not too much of a bother, in the future could you use the quote function when quoting? For one, credibility, and two, it saves everyone the time from searching up and double checking all the quotes :D

I don't know how to put more than one quote in a post. I mean quotes that aren't related. Any advice welcome.

Use peterbot to find the relevant quotes, click "orig" to open that post in webdip site, click the quote button, then cut/paste what is inside to your main reply. (It's a bit of a hassle with multiple tabs, but rather worth it imo :D)

[e.m.c^42]

think there's that 'eliminate for a day and night' power that mafia have

hmm, plausible but rather unlikely, since that would require it being used after night started? Since he posted then

but his low activity is a lil' bit concerning, after all that dedication in past lol

[xorxes]

This is where I'm at now:

Strongish town:

brainbomb (could be SK)
BunnyGo
damo666
e.m.c^42
foodcoats
Jamiet99uk
KalelChase
Kitsune
Nephthys
Vaporwave

Weakish town:

dargo
Foxcastle

Null to scumish:

Chaqa
ND/Sulit (we urgently need info on this slot)
rdrivera2005

Scum team:

Temasek22: Mostly based on his scumteam for bozo's list being copypasted from Maniac's. Couldn't really get anything from rereading him.

EspressoPatronum: Voted for bozo after defending him all day. Did not switch or comment when bozo claimed stone.

Maniac: His case on me is a signed confession.

Yuuki: Absent most of D1. Shows up with convenient but just believeble excuse. Disappears again while presumably catching up. Shows up with some questionable things to say. Disappears again.

[xorxes]

think there's that 'eliminate for a day and night' power that mafia have

hmm, plausible but rather unlikely, since that would require it being used after night started? Since he posted then

but his low activity is a lil' bit concerning, after all that dedication in past lol

I though Jamiet might have been taken with the space stone because he was the only one with no night posts, but I see that he has posted now, so the stone was not used. (Unless someone posted by mistake like it happened to Chaqa in a recent game.)

[xorxes]

Rivera's attempts at consistent engagement/following the same trains of thought though make me feel like he's not that scummy, though

but perhaps he could be SK lol

Not exactly what you mean by "following the same trains of thought", but static reasoning is more of a sign of scumminess than towniness. Having said that, he is actually moving towards the town side of my table now, even if not there yet.

[xorxes]

hey kalel youve said youre vt several times.

thats cool.

why do you feel banner needed to protect you?

Not sure what you're trying to do here brain, but this is a scummy line of questioning at this time.

[Chaqa]

think there's that 'eliminate for a day and night' power that mafia have

hmm, plausible but rather unlikely, since that would require it being used after night started? Since he posted then

but his low activity is a lil' bit concerning, after all that dedication in past lol

I though Jamiet might have been taken with the space stone because he was the only one with no night posts, but I see that he has posted now, so the stone was not used. (Unless someone posted by mistake like it happened to Chaqa in a recent game.)

To be fair I waited until the all clear to post and like 10 more minutes and only got the jail PM AFTER i had posted...

[EspressoPatronum]

@Brain - My comments in This colour

[...]

Here are his voters working backward from me.

Vote - EspressoPatronum
EspressoPatronum
Day-1 00:03
page 56 / orig ##vote bozo

I trust the ppl on the bozo wagon more than ND's

Espresso joined bozo last when the wagon was not self pres anymore for espresso. Looking at previous mentions of bozo by espresso...
I was townreading you, Kitsune, and Bunny (3 of bozo's wagon) + scumreading Foxcastle and Vapor (2 of ND's wagon). I wasn't as confident in my bozo read in light of that. As a side point, the mild survivalist in me also didn't want to go down with bozo if he flipped scum.

EspressoPatronum
EspressoPatronum
Day-1 40:40
page 11 / orig I got half way through. My impressions thus far:

Liking bozo a lot. I'll also echo darg's post -- I'm interested to see if bozo has any ideas on the mechanics of the game. We might have stood a better chance in the apocalypse/animal game

Espresso began the game loving that bozo voted vapor, and that bozo felt myself xorx or maniac were bussing.

-1 for Espresso

Espresso posts reads on P23
Among people missing from his reads: Maniac

Townlean
Bozo - I liked his opening but he hasn't said a lot more since then. Bozo isn't usually very active in the early days, so I'm not expecting a ton of posts from him until later. His activity in the mid/lategame should be telling.

I find this to be bad because youre saying that he will be great mid game. hes your top townlean. but you end up lynching him.

Yeah. I need to be more confident in my reads. I was right about worcej + should have stood by bozo. The same kind of thing happened to me in M47... I was confident in scum!foodcoats but didn't mount a good enough case against him.

Page 32

Regarding bozo, I think you're confusing his prodding style with his mid/lategame play and/or his play in mini mafia. Most of bozo's big games start off as unremarkable D1s / D2s, but then he comes in clutch later.

In m47, for instance, he started with the massclaim idea and didn't do much besides that. By the endgame, he singlehandedly towncased me for everyone else + helped form a town block that almost helped us come back.

closing in on End of Day

EspressoPatronum
Day-1 00:13
page 55 / orig Not feeling great about the bozo wagon. We lynched him for low activity in m46 and he ended up being town.

What's the case against him?

Espresso is still against bozo being lynched. He reaches a (6) wagon. uses gamblers fallacy as a defense here.
I was asking you btw. Was hoping you were online and could give me a quick rundown. I decided to sheep instead.

EspressoPatronum
Day-1 00:04
page 55 / orig @brain why bozo over ND?

EspressoPatronum
Day-1 00:03
page 56 / orig ##vote bozo

I trust the ppl on the bozo wagon more than ND's

Now Espresso has sunk his teeth into Bozos juicy neck. the jugular is spraying blood all over him.
Vivid, lol.


But lets look at one other detail.

The first time espresso mentions ND its a null read

ND - the persona is pretty weird. It'll be easier to sort him once he starts playing normally.

EspressoPatronum
Day-1 00:08
page 55 / orig
↑Foxcastle: "##VOTE ND

I don't like the Bozo lynch. I think this is generally in line with town Bozo."

ND normally plays personas. I attacked him pretty hard in m1007 for it, but it turns out he's town.

I'd rather see if he keeps it up in D2. That's when he dropped the act in m1007

Facts
Espresso never once quotes ND
Yeah, I ignored most of what he said
never reacts or quotes anyones votes on ND until foxcastle
True. Fox's vote was worrying
Says ND plays personas as town
Not entirely accurate. See below.

problem is early game ND was playing the persona and espresso had him as null.
why wasnt he town early game?
if he only plays personas as town.. shouldnt he have simply always been town to espresso?
I think you're misinterpreting what I meant here. ND plays personas regardless of alignment. I pushed for his lynch in m1007 because of the persona thing (I believe he called that one the 'lightning rod'), but ultimately walked it back. In light of this, I was trying to advocate for giving ND another day... this unfortunately doesn't rly work anymore because he subbed out.

I think this solidifies Espresso as scum
Let me know what you think after you read through my thought processes. If you're still scumreading me or you're on the fence, I'm happy to enageg further.

[EspressoPatronum]

Espresso claimed sheeping the bozo wagon out of ND wagon mistrust.

EP can you explain who/what/why you disliked about the ND wagon? If it wasn't from reads of the targets, what reads of the voters influenced your decision?

See my response to BB's case on me + let me know if that answers the question.