MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

Damo why did you shoot worc...

[e.m.c^42]

Oh dear

I have great timing lmfao
Came back just in time to refresh and see vig shot

rip worcej

[xorxes]

Let me try to be as clear as I can. I don't know if you were trying to manipulate Maniac or not (on a quick reread now, probably not), but I think he can have felt being manipulated. I don't see why scum Maniac would say something like that.

This relates on me feeling you were trying to manipulate Bozo to scum read me.

I really hope you can now understand what I am saying or we just agree to disagree and move on because it's not advancing the game.

OK, that makes a little more sense. Let's leave the you-bozo thing aside then because I think it's irrelevant in determining what Maniac was doing.

He voted for BG based on a silly reason. (He is townreading BG now, so presumably even he will agree that his reason was silly, or he wouldn't have abandoned it so easily.)

I pointed out his reason was silly.

He tried to defend it.

I said, ok, let's assume what you're saying makes sense. Is the rest of what BG has done consistent with him being scum?

He proceded to concoct a case against me that made absolutely no sense, about me trying to manipulate him into thinking that BG was scum.

His only other scumreads are Espresso and Kalel, his reasoning being that I was bussing Espresso (therefore EP is also scum) and that me saying that EP and Kalel are unlikley to be scum together (because they basically made each other's wagons viable at one point) then that was me protecting Kalel because Kalel is new.

If you really think town!Maniac genuinely believes all that, then I am forced to think you are the one being disingenuous here.

[rdrivera2005]

God damn it Tony!

NOBODY THOUGHT HE WAS SCUM!

So, I am not the only incompetent Day 1 Vig around. Worcej with one hour to go is a terrible choice.

[yuuki]

What the hell? A vig shot on D1?

[Jamiet99uk]

RIP, Worcej

[yuuki]

God damn it Tony!

NOBODY THOUGHT HE WAS SCUM!

So, I am not the only incompetent Day 1 Vig around. Worcej with one hour to go is a terrible choice.

Anyone on D1 is a horrible choice. At least vig didn't hit a PR

[Kitsune]

No surprise there with Worcej's flip

Also Kitsune, you shouldn't have stated your location. Now I have a weakness for you and it will cloud my mind as I will continue to assess your alignment.

XD

Fine, please disregard my previous statement as to location and regard me instead as some kind of sentient meme with no physical realworld location.

Better?

[damo666]

Damo why did you shoot worc...

It was a newb

[Jamiet99uk]

God damn it Tony!

NOBODY THOUGHT HE WAS SCUM!

So, I am not the only incompetent Day 1 Vig around. Worcej with one hour to go is a terrible choice.

Anyone on D1 is a horrible choice. At least vig didn't hit a PR

Yeah. First of all, it's a *strange* choice, and second of all, it's a hella risky shot.

[xorxes]

We can't know if shooting D1 was a bad choice or not until we know who the Vig is, and we should not be speculating since he has a second shot still.

The choice of target was bad though.

[damo666]

We can't know if shooting D1 was a bad choice or not until we know who the Vig is, and we should not be speculating since he has a second shot still.

The choice of target was bad though.

Explain

[rdrivera2005]

Let me try to be as clear as I can. I don't know if you were trying to manipulate Maniac or not (on a quick reread now, probably not), but I think he can have felt being manipulated. I don't see why scum Maniac would say something like that.

This relates on me feeling you were trying to manipulate Bozo to scum read me.

I really hope you can now understand what I am saying or we just agree to disagree and move on because it's not advancing the game.

OK, that makes a little more sense. Let's leave the you-bozo thing aside then because I think it's irrelevant in determining what Maniac was doing.

He voted for BG based on a silly reason. (He is townreading BG now, so presumably even he will agree that his reason was silly, or he wouldn't have abandoned it so easily.)

I pointed out his reason was silly.

He tried to defend it.

I said, ok, let's assume what you're saying makes sense. Is the rest of what BG has done consistent with him being scum?

He proceded to concoct a case against me that made absolutely no sense, about me trying to manipulate him into thinking that BG was scum.

His only other scumreads are Espresso and Kalel, his reasoning being that I was bussing Espresso (therefore EP is also scum) and that me saying that EP and Kalel are unlikley to be scum together (because they basically made each other's wagons viable at one point) then that was me protecting Kalel because Kalel is new.

If you really think town!Maniac genuinely believes all that, then I am forced to think you are the one being disingenuous here.

I could be biased because I also scumread Expresso and Kalel at some extent.
I have a question for you? Didn't you remember Maniac from old games? Was him a analytic and logic player?

And I don't fully understand what you mean with disingenuous. Don't you think people can think differently from you? Are you really so full of yourself?

[e.m.c^42]

What has worcej even done? Just his "who would you nk" test, so guess it was that...

[Kitsune]

God damn it Tony!

NOBODY THOUGHT HE WAS SCUM!

So, I am not the only incompetent Day 1 Vig around. Worcej with one hour to go is a terrible choice.

Anyone on D1 is a horrible choice. At least vig didn't hit a PR

If we’re not clear on why the vigilante shot worcej when he did, is it possible it was a (clumsy) attempt to redirect the vote?

It does put Bozo ahead of Foxcastle, which I suppose could be a motive if the cog was convinced the wrong person was about to die?

[xorxes]

We can't know if shooting D1 was a bad choice or not until we know who the Vig is, and we should not be speculating since he has a second shot still.

The choice of target was bad though.

Explain

Explain what? We don't want to out the Vig before he gets his second shot. He can't shoot until D2.

[Kitsune]

Cog = Vig sorry.

Thank you Aurocorrect.

[BunnyGo]

Can someone confirm for me there’s no way one of the stones (reality maybe?) could be used to impersonate Stark to do this? It’s too fucking stupid to believe.

[damo666]

What has worcej even done? Just his "who would you nk" test, so guess it was that...

Oh einstein you screwed up didn't you?

[rdrivera2005]

So, I am not the only incompetent Day 1 Vig around. Worcej with one hour to go is a terrible choice.

Anyone on D1 is a horrible choice. At least vig didn't hit a PR

If we’re not clear on why the vigilante shot worcej when he did, is it possible it was a (clumsy) attempt to redirect the vote?

It does put Bozo ahead of Foxcastle, which I suppose could be a motive if the cog was convinced the wrong person was about to die?

Why I town would want to redirect the vote this way? More likely a top wagon, but all of them are vet that I don't believe will do such a shitty choice.