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Re: Trump Vindicated

#41 Post by ND » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:51 am

Sure, debate away. I wouldn't have made this if I didn't want to debate it.

1) Jamie really shows his own ignorance of the U.S. Constitution. See, Jamie, the U.S. Constitution gives the government it's powers and divides it into three different branches of government. It is possible, obviously, to amend or even replace the Constitution. The Constitution was a governing document that replaced the Articles of Confederation so in theory a successor state could replace the Constitution completely through the amendment process this would create a new governing framework. But, the government gets it's power from the Constitution. The rights you speak of come from the amendments or more specifically the Bill of Rights. You know, things like freedom of speech and press that the left hates and calls a charter of negative liberties.

2) Where are the Democrats laying this out? Just read their statements and read the DNC platform. It's there clear as crystal.

3) I need to take a crash course in politics? Haha, how cute and also absurd. The modern democratic party is really just an acceptable front group for the masses and it is a front group for far left fringe lunatics that make up the far-left like communists, Stalinists, marxists, etc. How do I know this? Just look at what they want: group think (anyone who opposes them is a nazi), remove the rights of people to arm themselves (classic communist/fascist removal of weapons and ability of populace to defend themselves), oppress free speech and anyone who thinks differently (shadow banning on social media, efforts to limit assembly or free speech from conservative speakers on college campuses, etc), nationalization of major industries (healthcare and more), etc, etc, et al.

4) The rest of the comments are just absurd comments I mean.. come on. This goes to point 3) label anyone with a different view a nutjob. Seriously? Are you all unable to step outside your bias and see the world for what it is or are you that locked into your little group think marxist cult?

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#42 Post by ghug » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:32 am

ND wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:51 am
The modern democratic party is really just an acceptable front group for the masses
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Re: Trump Vindicated

#43 Post by ghug » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:33 am

ND wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:51 am
label anyone with a different view a nutjob. Seriously? Are you all unable to step outside your bias and see the world for what it is or are you that locked into your little group think marxist cult?

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#44 Post by ghug » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:34 am

Guys I can't pick a favorite part, I'm sorry.
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Re: Trump Vindicated

#45 Post by ghug » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:37 am

I also really like the bit about attacking the freedom of the press.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#46 Post by Kingdroid » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:34 am

Let's do one of those threads where we make ND debate himself by picking contradicting parts of his posts to use as arguments against himself

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#47 Post by LeonWalras » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:00 am

I hate when political parties front for the masses.
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Re: Trump Vindicated

#48 Post by brainbomb » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:20 am

I feel like democrats mourn John McCain more than Republicans
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Re: Trump Vindicated

#49 Post by flash2015 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:41 pm

Kingdroid wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:53 am
ND wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:43 am
Oh Orwell would definitely be a trump supporter. Animal farm is about your buddies the Soviet Union. He worked all his life to defeat communism. You think he would support the modern Democrats. That's straight up nuts.
LOL. You know literally nothing about Orwell. He literally fought in the Spanish Civil War for socialist groups. He didn't hate communism, he hated Stalin and Stalinism.
And as a bonus, he was also a journalist for a lot of his career...so Trump's "the press is the enemy of the people" probably would not have gone down well with him either.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#50 Post by Randomizer » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:15 pm

Trump is out there saving us from the rise of Skynet:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/alex ... ll-humans/

If it wasn't for Trump's election we would be crushed by the computers. Wait the computers know we've seen this. Our new overlords will come after those of us that know. Time to go off grid.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#51 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:07 pm

I love how ND gets upset about being called a "nutjob" and cries about it, yet anyone who doesn't agree with him is branded a "cultist".

You're a joke, ND.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#52 Post by ND » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:33 pm

This is pretty amusing. No one can debate the merits so they just try to ridicule when there is nothing to ridicule. haha

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#53 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:01 pm

It's impossible to have a sensible debate about whether the Democratic party are a bunch of communists because it's such an absurd proposition.

Speaking as a Marxist, I can tell you, they're not fucking Marxists, you idiot.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#54 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:02 pm

And the merits of your absurd claims about George Orwell absolutely have been debated, and your claim demonstrated to be nonsense.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#55 Post by ND » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:20 am

Animal Farm and 1984 are about Marxists and Big Government Communism, "you idiot." And, yes the Democratic Party are worse then the Communist Party and probably responsible for more dead people (innocent babies).

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#56 Post by Kingdroid » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:22 am

You're absolutely wrong, though.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#57 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:37 am

Animal Farm is about Stalinism. George Orwell was a socialist. It's so sad the way these Trumpist cultists attempt to rewrite history to suit them.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#58 Post by TrPrado » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:28 pm

Orwell’s at length discussion of the conditions of the proles in 1984 was the sort of thing you’d expect a socialist to take the time to write. It is also one of the least remembered aspects of the book, rightfully so because it was also the weakest.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#59 Post by ND » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:05 pm

No difference between stalinism and socialism.

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Re: Trump Vindicated

#60 Post by LeonWalras » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:52 pm

Stalinism is distinguished from forms of Communist ideology which draw from Marx, Engels, and (usually) Lenin but not from Stalin, such as Trotskyism. Trotskyists are generally anti-Stalinists.

Some critics declare Stalinism a caricature of communism and consider it to deviate far from its original intent. Stalinism is really more of a form of government rather than an ideology.
- The marxist hacks at conservapedia, well known far-left wiki for those who abhor the conservative bias of wikipedia.
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