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Civil war 2.0???

#1 Post by ssorenn » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:16 pm

https://www.dailywire.com/news/32392/sh ... -paul-bois

So, what do the massive liberal population here think of this?
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#2 Post by StevenC. » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:49 pm

Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo
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#3 Post by TrPrado » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:45 pm

While not a liberal, my thoughts are that it’d be best not to continue reading the Daily Wire.
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#4 Post by ssorenn » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:55 pm

TrPrado wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:45 pm
While not a liberal, my thoughts are that it’d be best not to continue reading the Daily Wire.
I like the daily wire. That point aside. If you’d like to make a comment on the possibility of civil war 2.0. I’d love to hear it
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#5 Post by ssorenn » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:56 pm

@trprado, are you the token non-lib on staff?

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#6 Post by Octavious » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:27 pm

Who would fight it? The radicals on the left talk a big game, but you can't fight a civil war with quiche, angry face emojis, and strongly worded letters to the town council.
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#7 Post by ssorenn » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:51 pm

It’s a narrative that’s starting to resonate. We are a country more divide than in the past 150 years and this wedge is attributed to Obama not Trump. Trump is a lot of things,( add all the adjectives you’d like) but patriot is high on the list. (I can see leftists reeling through the screen :) ).

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#8 Post by Incrementalist » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:11 am

Trump isn't a patriot, because patriotism is a principle, and Trump simply doesn't have any principles. The only consistent guide to his decision making is the reaction he expects to get from doing this or saying that. After the public hullabaloo is finished, that's the end of it. He isn't even a committed racist - actions speak louder than words, and he makes use of immigrant labor as much as the next service industry honcho.

Obama was a 61st percentile president.
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#9 Post by ssorenn » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:49 am

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#10 Post by ssorenn » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:52 am

Seems making amaerica great again is a principle. Now great is obviously different to different people but everything he ran his campaign on he’s trying to do.
I’m not saying he doesn’t have flawed, and he has many, and his unorthodox approach is challenging to swallow sometimes, but he’s still pushing policy that he ran his campaign on


Oh——-Obama is a traitor. Plain and
simple.
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#12 Post by Incrementalist » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:16 am

Obama's Iran deal was a bit of a joke, but so is Trump's policy toward North Korea. Not every puzzle has a solution.

Obama was a 61st percentile president, Trump is looking to be about a 43rd percentile, judged merely on outcomes rather than intent in both cases.

EDITED TO ADD: Neither of them are "traitors", if that word is to have any meaning.

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#13 Post by ssorenn » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:22 am

Early in Obama’s presidency he was at the 40th %. Reagan had the same thing. Sorry to inform you. He is a traitor, in many facets. The Iran deal. Circumventing our own sanctions to help the Iranians move currency around as well.dont Forget Hillary and uranium 1.trump gave up nothing for NK, while it cost us $400+. Million to Iran.

Forget not helping the African American community. The highest jobless rate in history for them, while trump has their highest employment in recorded history.
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#14 Post by ssorenn » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:33 am

:eyeroll: :eyeroll: :raging:
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#15 Post by Incrementalist » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:34 am

Diplomacy (in real life) proceeds by an accumulation of nuances, not consistent aggression toward adversaries. Obama wasn't particularly good at this, and Clinton was straightforwardly bad at it. They cut Iran and Russia some slack in approving the movement of money or materials; this isn't automatically wrong, but they got too little for it. Nevertheless getting swindled is not the same thing as betraying the country. And the impact of these actions was not catastrophic in the grand scheme of things.

As far as helping the African American community... the economy does what it does. No president controls it.

(I have facebook blocked in my /etc/hosts, I can't get to the last link you posted).

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#16 Post by ssorenn » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:37 am

The president controls more than you can think. He left much of his voting base in the cold. Created a staggering class disparity in wealth

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#17 Post by brainbomb » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:38 am

TrPrado wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:45 pm
While not a liberal, my thoughts are that it’d be best not to continue reading the Daily Wire.
AHAHAHA

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#18 Post by Incrementalist » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:39 am

Your prose is becoming inscrutable.

EDIT: OK I see what you mean after the correction. Nevertheless... the president does not control the economy, which is why presidents are so often at the economy's mercy.
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#20 Post by ssorenn » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:52 am

Incrementalist wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:39 am
Your prose is becoming inscrutable.

EDIT: OK I see what you mean after the correction. Nevertheless... the president does not control the economy, which is why presidents are so often at the economy's mercy.
Presidents are at the crux of the economy. Policy, is driven through the Whitehouse. While the fed is supposed to be an independent body, chairmen Yellen was a puppet for Obama. One of the main reason why we were held back for 8 years. Trump and his tax cuts were direct policy influencing the massive rally we’ve seen in the first 18 months of trumps presidency. While he hasn’t cured healthcare yet, if he does, another leg\ up will be coming.

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