Fascism is going too far

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Re: Fascism is going too far

#41 Post by Kingdroid » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:07 am

Yeah jamie is just taking lessons from Trump. Exaggerate your wording, be vague. It's called negotiating.
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#42 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:13 am

This thread illustrates the interesting difference between the likes of ND and the likes of Croak.

Croak is an intelligent guy. He is not an idiot. He has decided to align himself with the side of evil, bigotry, and ethnic nationalism. This makes him an evil, morally disgusting individual - doubly so because he has made a conscious decision to join this camp.

ND, conversely, is a fool. He is a weak-minded right-wing cheerleader who has trained himself to thoughtlessly mimic his beloved Trump's inane statements. He cannot argue rationally with his opponents, and is reduced to merely branding anyone he disagrees with a "cultist". Whenever an opponent is rude or gets angry, he absurdly claims they are "making threats".

I regard Croak with contempt. For ND I have merely pity.

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Re: Fascism is going too far

#43 Post by CroakandDagger » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:37 pm

Despising the excesses of corporatist greed and corruption, campaigning against the systematic and targeted grooming and rape of thousands of vulnerable children and opposing creeping theocracy, authoritarianism and censorship make me "evil" for "deciding" to go against them, do they?

From the opening post of this very thread it's obvious that you think opposing Evil is a duty, not a choice - so how could I have made any such decision? My course was decided for me by the people who came before and did nothing.
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#44 Post by Incrementalist » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:18 pm

I think CroakAndDagger likes to push people's buttons and set them off because it feels good.

I think Jamiet99uk likes to unload in righteous indignation because it feels good.

Everyone's got the feels.
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#45 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:41 pm

@Croak:

What are you doing to stop white rapists and white child molesters? Genuine question since the EDL and Britain First are full of them.

Genuine question.

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Re: Fascism is going too far

#46 Post by CroakandDagger » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:44 pm

I'm glad you ask questions so genuine that it needs to be clarified twice.

In an ideal world they would get the same punishment as any paedophile: hanging.

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Re: Fascism is going too far

#47 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:22 pm

Right but what are you doing about them? Are you publishing articles and social media posts calling for their execution? Do you hold rallies specifically aimed at calling for violent action against white rapists? Do you turn up outside court when white rapists are on trial?

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Re: Fascism is going too far

#48 Post by ND » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:28 pm

I forgot how moronic and evil some people on these forums can be... ugh.
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#49 Post by Kingdroid » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:49 pm

ND wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:28 pm
I forgot how moronic and evil some people on these forums can be... ugh.
it wasn't so bad until you came back.
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#50 Post by ND » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:01 pm

I don't know who you are, "Kingdroid" but I don't really care either. Just another pawn, cultist, of the global warming/leftist/feminist socialist cabal. /Yawn

Pretty much just a less interesting Jamiet clone
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#51 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:57 am

Sad!

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Re: Fascism is going too far

#52 Post by flash2015 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:06 pm

Threads like this are why politics should not be on the front page. This isn't debate, this is people just being nasty.
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#53 Post by ND » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:47 pm

pretty much. There are some real nasty people in this forum.
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#54 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:15 am

I dont come to the forum to be angry. I come to have fun. but when people are having fun making people angry with saying absurdist idealogical ideas, or myopic political bigotry, then we have a problem.
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#55 Post by leon1122 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:20 am

The progressive agenda is the only absurd ideology here.

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Re: Fascism is going too far

#56 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:36 am

I mean, without explaining what specific policies that agenda embodies I highly doubt anyone has a clue what you are concerned with
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#57 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:43 pm

Leon thinks that progress is bad and that we should return to 19th century policies such as slavery and apartheid.

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Re: Fascism is going too far

#58 Post by Incrementalist » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:49 pm

I really dislike the term "progressive" because it implies that anyone who disagrees with that agenda is somehow "regressive". The name itself demonizes dissenters, which is worrying.

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Re: Fascism is going too far

#59 Post by jengamaster » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:28 am

CroakandDagger wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:33 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:16 pm
Fascists are scum. Fascism is an ideology of violence and hatred. To shut up fascists, to deny them the right to speak, to disqualify them from public office, and so on, is a humane, moral, good thing to do. To counter their violence with violence is justified and proportionate.
You heard it here first folks. If someone says things you don't like you should punch them as hard as you can - and keep punching them until they can't or won't say anything you dislike ever again.

Thanks, Jamie! You really opened my eyes.
I just wanted to address this point, as it was sort of skipped over in this thread. Jamiet99uk, if I am understanding his position, is using Karl Popper's argument regarding the paradox of tolerance. In order to have a tolerant society, it is necessary at times to be intolerant of the intolerant. In some cases, in order to achieve or protect a tolerant society the intolerant elements must be suppressed. Hopefully that case be achieved through rational arguments, but when that fails more extreme methods must be turned to.

Tolerance requires the intolerance of the intolerant.
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Re: Fascism is going too far

#60 Post by Stressedlines » Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:24 pm

Jamie. Why stop at only white pedos and racists? Are non white ones ok in your book? You call croak and nd racists and yet you are the only one i see going down that road

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