Yeah but the lies he tells are so *pointless* and so easily exposed. Like, in this case, he claimed that "thousands" of parents of US soldiers killed in the Korean war had written to him. This is close to impossible, since if you're the parent of a Korean War veteran, you'd be over 100. There aren't likely to be thousands of them still alive.
That's the lie that's upsetting you?!?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:29 pmYeah but the lies he tells are so *pointless* and so easily exposed. Like, in this case, he claimed that "thousands" of parents of US soldiers killed in the Korean war had written to him. This is close to impossible, since if you're the parent of a Korean War veteran, you'd be over 100. There aren't likely to be thousands of them still alive.
Why make up shit like this? It demeans the office of the president.
The president of the USA tells clear lies, and you have no problem with that?Octavious wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:59 pmThat's the lie that's upsetting you?!?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:29 pmYeah but the lies he tells are so *pointless* and so easily exposed. Like, in this case, he claimed that "thousands" of parents of US soldiers killed in the Korean war had written to him. This is close to impossible, since if you're the parent of a Korean War veteran, you'd be over 100. There aren't likely to be thousands of them still alive.
Why make up shit like this? It demeans the office of the president.
Come on, Jamie, there's no malice in that. Trump is not precise in his speech, and never has been. Whether that's intentional or not I have no idea, but the meaning behind the words seems clear enough. There are many deceased servicemen from the US in Korea (truth). They will have many friends and family alive today in the USA (truth). Many of these people will deeply appreciate these deceased servicemen being repatriated (truth).
This is the truth that matters. Why get excited by Trump fluffing the details? Who gives a shit if Trump said parents instead of sons and daughters? Who gives a shit how many wrote to Trump personally?
My grandad fought in Korea, and he lost mates out there. If Trump helps bring some of the fallen back then more power to his elbow, and shame on you for kicking up a stink over trivial crap.
That particular lie? None whatsoever as it seems far more likely to be a stumble over words than an attempt to deceive. Other lies, yes I do have a problem. But no more so than the lies Obama told (how many times did he say he was going to shut Guantanamo?) or the lies Bush told or the lies Clinton told.
Do you wear a mask to keep your eyes covered or do you look away when Trump talks? Because Trump wrote about lying as a normal way of doing business and has been filmed finally admitting to making up facts.
Except in this case, Trump is the boy crying wolf. He tells so many lies that when he occasionally gets something right, it's hard to notice.CroakandDagger wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:23 pmHonestly, the Media goes over everything Trump ever says with a fine-tooth comb and claims so many things he says are not true (even when they demonstrably are) that you can hardly blame his supporters for growing to dismiss claims that he's a liar out of hand.
It's like the classic tale of the boy who cried wolf. If the reporters of the left-wing media never give him any credit for anything, if he ever actually does something bad and they talk about it nobody is going to believe them.
No. This is not a matter of opinion. Facts are facts. Some things are either true or not true.
Yes, it probably looks that way to you.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:10 pmExcept in this case, Trump is the boy crying wolf. He tells so many lies that when he occasionally gets something right, it's hard to notice.
Do you believe it is a fact that there are thousands and thousands of people alive in the USA today whose children were killed fighting in the Korean war? Yes, or no? Either it is a fact that many thousands of such people exist, or it is not.
Why is this detail so important to you? It is clear enough what Trump meant to say, and what he meant to say was hugely important to a great many people. Will the sons and daughters who may finally be able to visit their parents grave give a damn over whether Trump said parents or children? Of course not.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:45 pmDo you believe it is a fact that there are thousands and thousands of people alive in the USA today whose children were killed fighting in the Korean war? Yes, or no? Either it is a fact that many thousands of such people exist, or it is not.
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