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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#201 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:39 pm

CroakandDagger wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:10 pm
...holds views that dehumanise certain sections of the population as "oppressors" by the nature of their class, race, or sex (a key point of marxist theory)...
When has Theresa May stated any such view?

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#202 Post by Incrementalist » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:44 am

CROAK:
Regardless of whether it is realistic, who would you most like to see as Prime Minister of the UK, and why?

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#203 Post by Kingdroid » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:50 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:40 pm
CroakandDagger wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:33 pm

Kingdroid, the far left are all those people who subscribe to the dehumanising doctrines of neo-marxism and authoritarian socialism, which includes the UK government and the opposition.
You are deluded and insane if you think Theresa May and Boris Johnson are marxists.

Wow. What a fruitcase.
the dude thinks corbyn and may have identical politics. if you try to tell me this due is not a straight up fascist im calling you (or anyone) a liar.

holy moly croak found the shark and just leaped over it without hesitation.
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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#204 Post by Incrementalist » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:04 am

CROAK:

What, if anything, distinguishes you from a fascist?

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#205 Post by Yoyoyozo » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:08 am

BossMan227 wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:08 pm
if your ethnicity is 25% white, 25% Black, 25% Hispanic, and 25% Asian. then what do you do, do you just kill yourself due to the fact that you wanna shoot up a school while smoking crack with your illegal pistol in the hood next to a taco truck. Or do you become president?
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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#206 Post by CroakandDagger » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:33 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:39 pm
When has Theresa May stated any such view?
Consistently she has spoken about imagined prejudices and inequalities - putting stock in ludicrous, long-falsified myths like the wage gap or the pink tax.
Incrementalist wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:44 am
CROAK:
Regardless of whether it is realistic, who would you most like to see as Prime Minister of the UK, and why?
Enoch Powell. Sure, he's long dead - but he was a genuine genius and may have been able to steer the course of the nation in a less terrible direction, having accurately foreseen many of the problems that plague us to this day.

Sure, time travel and/or the reanimation of the dead aren't realistic, but you did say I could get crazy with it.
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:04 am
CROAK:

What, if anything, distinguishes you from a fascist?
Fascism is characterised by a few things: Extreme authoritarian nationalism, the belief that liberal democracy is obsolete and that the nation must be mobilised in its entirety (in a strict hierarchy) to deal with military or economic threats.

I am not an authoritarian. In fact i'm quite fiercely anti-authoritarian.
I do not believe that liberal democracy is obsolete, but it has been supplanted by corrupt corporate cronyism.
I don't believe the planned economy that characterises communist or fascist states to be the best economic model.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#207 Post by Stressedlines » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:34 am

Are Facists really that planned economic models? can we even find a real Fascist, or for that matter Communist state? I guess North Korea to some extent can serve as an example of one. However, Germany and Italy of the 20-40s are not good examples of Fascist economics. Maybe Spain?

Hitler was all over the place with Economics, and viewed them 100% secondary to everything His view of Socialism was about people, never about Economics, and is quoted several times, and believed in Social Darwism was how you weeded things out.

So, I will disagree that Fascism/National Socialists are planned economies since both examples we have, neither practiced that.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#208 Post by Stressedlines » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:59 pm

Nothing I have heard.croak say makes.me.think racists. The left thinks anyone who disagrees with them.is a.facist. naming him.such does not make him one

Example. Trump is hardly a fascist by definition. For the left they decided to change the definition of it

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#209 Post by Stressedlines » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:00 pm

Above correction. Racist should be fascist

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#210 Post by Telamor » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:38 pm

Enoch Powell the man that argued you should be able to deny people service on the basis of ethnicity and skin colour. A true lover of humanity.
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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#211 Post by spartan445 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:09 pm

Stressedlines wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:59 pm
Trump is hardly a fascist by definition.
True, by a strict definition of fascist as "supporting fascism." However, people often use the term "fascist" to mean "dictatorial" or "autocratic," both of which are slightly different terms which essentially mean the same thing, a person who is for an autocratic regime. Which, well, given the number of times Trump has simply ordered something done without congressional approval only for federal judges to find it unconstitutional, even all the way up to the supreme court, one can see a pattern of autocratic behavior. Not to mention Trump's open praise of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-Un, both established autocrats with a well-documented history of dictatorial behavior. I'll admit, the Kim Jong-Un example could be a little misleading, what with Trump calling him "little rocket man" nearly a year ago, but then calling him "honorable" not more than a few days ago.

Either Trump is hugely inconsistent, which makes me very worried, or he lied either the time he praised/insulted Kim Jong-Un... which makes me similarly worried.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#212 Post by dargorygel » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:23 pm

President Trump is mostly just a Pragmatist. Which is the most scary of all.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#213 Post by Kingdroid » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:41 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:23 pm
President Trump is mostly just a Pragmatist. Which is the most scary of all.
Well, it's surely the first time we've had a President who got elected solely to enrich himself and his friends. We're navigating some serious murky waters.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#214 Post by CroakandDagger » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:28 pm

Kingdroid wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:41 pm
Well, it's surely the first time we've had a President who got elected solely to enrich himself and his friends.
You're joking, right?
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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#215 Post by Kingdroid » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:43 pm

CroakandDagger wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:28 pm
Kingdroid wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:41 pm
Well, it's surely the first time we've had a President who got elected solely to enrich himself and his friends.
You're joking, right?
Not at all. I genuinely believe most US Presidents thought they were at least helping some amount of Americans be more prosperous, even if misguided or shitty.

trump is probably the first that has blatantly branded the presidency with his own personal brand and straight up funneled money into his own companies.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#216 Post by CroakandDagger » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:47 pm

What about the Clinton presidency?

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#217 Post by Kingdroid » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:02 pm

CroakandDagger wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:47 pm
What about the Clinton presidency?
Not really comparable is it. Not a sif Clinton was visiting his own company's golf courses on taxpayers dollars or being blatantly actively involve din the CLINTON CORPORATION.

i think all presidents become presidents somewhat for their own gain, but, none have been on this level.
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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#218 Post by ghug » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:05 pm

I feel Martin van Buren may be a more relevant example.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#219 Post by CroakandDagger » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:32 pm

I see. When you call your repository of illegal slush fund cash and bribe money a foundation rather than a corporation it doesn't count.

Thanks for educating me, Kingdroid. Appreciate it.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#220 Post by Kingdroid » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:19 pm

CroakandDagger wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:32 pm
I see. When you call your repository of illegal slush fund cash and bribe money a foundation rather than a corporation it doesn't count.

Thanks for educating me, Kingdroid. Appreciate it.
I don't recall saying it didnt count, i just claimed Trump is much worse about it and way more blatant. trump's *only* agenda is his own enrichment, I don't think he even has political or ethical values outside of that

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