It's Okay To Be White

[CroakandDagger]

Sanders and Corbyn are certainly much closer to communism than Powell is to fascism or racism.

On Bernie Sanders: <Snip> Your characterization of his ideology being close to communism is grossly inaccurate.

I think you've gotten the wrong end of the stick here. To clarify, I said that Sanders is closer to Communism than Powell was to racism or fascism. Even if you prove beyond a doubt that he is no Communist, that does not invalidate my statement. He is in favour of progressive socialist policies - while Powell was nothing of the sort regarding fascist ones.

Now to be clear, I have not said that you are a right-winger, or crazy, or any of the other things people have said to you.

I appreciate it.

However,

... oh, there's more.

However, I do think you are using your platform, most likely intentionally, to misrepresent history and ideology to make your points.

I resent the suggestion that I would ever intentionally misrepresent something. The main reason I am so furious with the mainstream media these days is because they are so cavalier with the truth, caring little for the actual facts of a situation, only what supports the narrative they are being paid to report.

In the American Alt-Right, they try to say things like "Blacks are inherently more sociopathic" by pointing out crime statistics while failing to recognize the deep complexities of the Black experience in the United States, and deliberately ignoring the same sociopathic tendencies exhibited by people working in the cutthroat world of business, which is predominantly white.

I've not heard that one. I have heard the theory that blacks are predisposed towards violence because on average their testosterone levels are somewhat higher than other races, but I can't vouch for the veracity of that.

I think you consider yourself an intellectual person who "looks at the evidence" before coming to conclusions, but you've already made the conclusions

I don't think that's the case. But i'll have to review the evidence first and get back to you.

[leon1122]

The truth of the matter is that most people around the world, in most countries, subscribe to nationalistic if not racial tribalism. It's only in the West that the opposite is even thrashed about. I've had the joy to live in two specifically racialist countries: Japan and South Korea, the latter being a bit more explicit in the contempt it holds toward other nations.

I wonder if in the West it is even possible to hold a nuanced view of race, nation, state, rights, and tribalism. Because the truth isn't the purview of the left. Or the right. To everyone asserting that America is a white supremacist place, or that People of Colour are absurdly persecuted and are slumped because of it, I'd caution you to read/listen/watch the arguments/discussions of conservative People of Colour and not their sound bytes dissected by progressives or members of your team.

Exactly, shizgeo. Ethnic nationalism is the norm in almost every nonwhite country. Only in the West is there this single-minded pursuit of multiculturalism even at the expense of the majority race, yet somehow liberals are always finding new ways to invent oppression. Like you I've had the privilege of living in my ancestral homeland (China), and the contrast in racial attitudes when I came back to the US was absurd.


In any case, it's clear that having a frank and honest discussion on the topic of race/ethnicity is impossible on this forum, so this will be my last post on the issue. If I do post about it again, I hope someone will remind me of this promise here today.

[leon1122]

I will add that it is an act of white supremacy in and of itself to say that a such a uniquely white idea is better than the nationalism prevalent in the rest of the world.