It's Okay To Be White

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#181 Post by Incrementalist » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:41 am

Whoops.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#182 Post by Telamor » Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:46 am

Croak mate I'm not sure what sort of far right people you know but the ones I grew up with had no interest in humanity or other people's homelands. They were a bunch of angry disenfranchised people that wanted easy solutions to all their problems and settled on blaming the foreigner for everything. They hate Poles for speaking another language, the Irish for all being terrorists, and pakis for being an Islamic 5th column.

That said I'm not here to argue that the far left is better than the far right I'm just saying you seem to parrot a lot of their talking points. You're anti-war but pro-Assad which is counter initiative. You're pro-freedom of religion but only the ones you like. You're disgusted by our ruling corporate elites but were actively advocating for a return to monarchy recently. I think it is just that you're a contrarian now that I think about it.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#183 Post by Kingdroid » Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:48 am

CroakandDagger wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:27 am
Telamor wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:10 am
Like I said I've never seen you post about economics but your willingness to adopt far right talking points would either indicate a general agreement with the lines of thinking that produce them or a desire to be contrarian. I dunno which applies most to you but I get the sense at least one does.
What do you mean by far right? I am a moderate left-leaning libertarian centrist who supports free speech, universal suffrage, gay rights and freedom of religion.

I'm anti-war, skeptical of mainstream news sources, disgusted by the class of corporates who rule over us and their politician toadies - but I look at the far left in horror because they are literally locking people up for making jokes on twitter.

We live in a crazy world, and you bet if it has to come down to a fight between the "far right" and the far left i'll pick the far right every time because they at least seem to believe that everyone is entitled to their humanity and a homeland.
I'm curious what you think the 'far left' is. The far left has 0 political power in the United States, and very little still in the United Kingdom.

So how are the 'far left' locking people up for jokes on Twitter. I'd like to see some citations, bud.

Also, I'm going to excerpt a part of your post that requires no comment to be seen as ridiculous. "i'll pick the far right every time because they at least seem to believe that everyone is entitled to their humanity" - Croak 2018

you can't make this shit up, people. Call yourself what you will, but, at best, you're a fascist sympathizer, and at worst you're full-blown.
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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#184 Post by Incrementalist » Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:16 am

Uh... I was trying to stay out of this because the whole discussion here was pointless from the start, but this business of finding pure evil in the guise of one or some other internet poster is turning into a full-blown moral panic. It's not just this thread, it's an internet-wide trend.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#185 Post by Kingdroid » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:07 am

Incrementalist wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:16 am
Uh... I was trying to stay out of this because the whole discussion here was pointless from the start, but this business of finding pure evil in the guise of one or some other internet poster is turning into a full-blown moral panic. It's not just this thread, it's an internet-wide trend.
Naw, but when you say dumbass shit like "the far right cares about everyone's humanity" then you're going to be called out.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#186 Post by ablumdrew » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:23 am

Sure it's okay to be white. It's okay to be anything, I don't care. Just don't be an asshole and post needlessly contentious points on the internet. There is something we can all agree on.
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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#187 Post by CroakandDagger » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:33 pm

Telamor, if you think that the modern "Far Right" (UKIP, identitarians, the alt-right, etc.) are the same as the neo-nazis of the past, I think you have fundamentally misinterpreted their movements.

For the record, though, people who settle in a country should learn the language. That's only polite. The IRA were terrorists. That's undeniable. And the fact that muslims in the west are a fifth column that do not care for our democracies, the rights of women or gays, our laws or our liberal systems is quite frankly undeniable if you spend any time at all around them when they think "the white man" isn't listening.

Being anti-war but pro-Assad is not "counter initiative". Were it not for ignorant western interference the war in Syria would be long over.

I'm for freedom of religion - but I don't believe that you should be free to rape and murder in the name of your religion.

I was interested in how people would defend the system of democracy itself if somebody tried to attack its roots. Do not mistake my thought experiment for advocacy.

Kingdroid, the far left are all those people who subscribe to the dehumanising doctrines of neo-marxism and authoritarian socialism, which includes the UK government and the opposition.

There have been numerous arrests in my country over the past couple of years relating to off-colour jokes and comments on social media. I don't know if you've been following the Mark Meechan case, but it's far from unique on the british isles. I don't have the stats to hand but I understand upwards of a thousand people have been arrested under the same law for similarly inoffensive activities.

The modern "Far Right" (UKIP, Identitarians, the alt-right, etc.) are not in the habit of denying the humanity of others - they just want their own to be recognised. The Far Left absolutely does dehumanise people. They say that it's alright to use violence against Nazis - and then they call everyone to the right of Mao a Nazi.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#188 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:57 pm

CroakandDagger wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:33 pm
And the fact that muslims in the west are a fifth column that do not care for our democracies, the rights of women or gays, our laws or our liberal systems is quite frankly undeniable if you spend any time at all around them when they think "the white man" isn't listening.


In the United States, Muslims are more accepting of Gay rights than Evangelical Christians.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 73276.html
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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#189 Post by Telamor » Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:38 pm

Croak, you are the Picasso of political reinterpretation. The image of politics you're producing is so warped and misshapen that it is only barely recognisable. It's definitely artistically interesting and I'm probably going to steal it as the backdrop to a Dark Heresy game I'm running but it bears minimal resemblance to reality.
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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#190 Post by CroakandDagger » Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:53 pm

The Imperium is less dysfunctional than the West.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#191 Post by Telamor » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:51 pm

I'm sure you'd be a very happy commisar.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#192 Post by CroakandDagger » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:06 pm

You know nothing about me.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#193 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:08 pm

This got nerdy =P

Only on the forum of a board game website...

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#194 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:40 pm

CroakandDagger wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:33 pm

Kingdroid, the far left are all those people who subscribe to the dehumanising doctrines of neo-marxism and authoritarian socialism, which includes the UK government and the opposition.
You are deluded and insane if you think Theresa May and Boris Johnson are marxists.

Wow. What a fruitcase.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#195 Post by CroakandDagger » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:06 pm

The differences between Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn are so small I would need a micrometer to properly distinguish between the two of them.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#196 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:52 pm

CroakandDagger wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:06 pm
The differences between Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn are so small I would need a micrometer to properly distinguish between the two of them.
You're an idiot.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#197 Post by CroakandDagger » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:34 pm

Are you sure that it's not you, yourself, who is the idiot?

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#198 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:54 pm

Please outline your case for why Theresa May is a Marxist. I would love to hear it.

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#199 Post by CroakandDagger » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:10 pm

Your reading comprehension is poor. I called her a neo-marxist because she presides over a government that is both authoritarian and socialist and holds views that dehumanise certain sections of the population as "oppressors" by the nature of their class, race, or sex (a key point of marxist theory).

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Re: It's Okay To Be White

#200 Post by JamesYanik » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:18 pm

dude there's a MASSIVE difference between Corybn and May. I'd say if anything Corbyn was the Neo-marxist, and May as British Right-wing (which for America is centrist-left economics, socially conservative authoritarian)

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