Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

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Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#1 Post by TrPrado » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:37 pm

Formerly registered as a Libertarian in Oklahoma, Manning is running on a platform of government accountability for the Democratic primary in Maryland against incumbent Ben Cardin.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#2 Post by ND » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:54 pm

Lol Manning will probably win given how bizarre the Democratic Party has become lol.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#3 Post by TrPrado » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:37 pm

There’s also a large segment of Libertarians that want her to beat the Libertarian Party candidate for the senate race, Arvin Vohra (who has defended pedophilia). I personally think Manning is a pretty good candidate and really represents her platform of accountability really well.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#4 Post by ND » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:38 am

Um Manning betrayed the United States of America... she was literally incarcerated for years for treason and you want that type of person to be in Congress and to sit in on intelligence briefings? Wow TrPrado.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#5 Post by CAPT Brad » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:52 am

i didn't think that convicted felons could be elected to congress.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#6 Post by CAPT Brad » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:54 am

Manning is a pretty good candidate and really represents her platform of accountability really well.

not a good statement in the light of treasonous behavior. besides oklahoma belongs to native americans. the representatives should not be white 'gurls'

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#7 Post by Calmar » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:48 am

He is a traitor and a disgrace to the uniform he was foolishly allowed to wear.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#8 Post by TrPrado » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:17 am

ND wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:38 am
Um Manning betrayed the United States of America... she was literally incarcerated for years for treason and you want that type of person to be in Congress and to sit in on intelligence briefings? Wow TrPrado.
A) I thought you were pro-WikiLeaks??? Because that’s where all the info went. When running a campaign on accountability and transparency, she’s a record of being incarcerated to promote those ideals.

B) Being in Congress doesn’t automatically give you clearance for classified info.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#9 Post by TrPrado » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:18 am

CAPT Brad wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:52 am
i didn't think that convicted felons could be elected to congress.
They can and should as long as they’ve served their sentence. It technically comes down to state law, and Maryland has no law about it.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#10 Post by Ogion » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:14 am

Actually, no she wasn't convicted of treason, but of violations of the Espionage Act in a bizarre application of that law.

Strange how Petreus wasn't convicted of the same thing. As for whether being treasonous is a barrier to elected office, um, look at the President and most Republican Senators....

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#11 Post by Octavious » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:24 am

At the end of the day it should be up to the people whether they believe her past actions make her unsuitable or not. If you don't trust the people to make the right call, you might as well give up on democracy.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#12 Post by TrPrado » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:35 pm

I agree. While I find the candidacy very interesting, I’m not going to pretend I know best for the people of Maryland. I am quite happy, though, that Vohra has even less of a chance of getting it than Manning. Especially with a large portion of the Libertarian Party turning on Vohra (a friend of mine doing so is how I heard about Manning running).

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#13 Post by Randomizer » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:44 pm

Trump did business with the Mafia and sent senior members of his company to start business talks with Cuba before Obama and Congress lifted the long time ban. Those were the worst of Criminal Trump's offenses and he got elected president so the bar is pretty low.

Pardoned convicted felon Joe Arpiao is running in Arizona for Senator Jeff Flake's seat. He didn't even get sentenced or serve time after being convicted.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#14 Post by ND » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:33 pm

Wikileaks is fine, but people who break laws to give them information still have to pay the consequences. It doesn't excuse the fact that Manning is a traitor.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#15 Post by TrPrado » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:10 pm

Everything submitted to WiliLeaks is illegal. Everything they publish is illegal. That’s the point of WikiLeaks. It’s hypocritical to condemn one and not the other.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#16 Post by The Czech » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:39 pm

There are only 3 qualifications for running for Congress.
House of Reps: Min 25 years of age, resident of the district you will represent and a citizen of the US for at least 7 years
Senate: Min 30 years of age, resident of the district (state) and a US citizen for at least 9 years.

Al Hastings of Florida was an impeached federal judge who has won several elections to Congress.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#17 Post by Foxcastle » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:48 pm

For House elections, you must live in the state, but do not have to reside in the district you run to represent.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#18 Post by ghug » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:20 am

I think you have to maintain a residence in the district once you reside there, though that might just be a state law.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#19 Post by swordsman3003 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:16 am

I have not been this intrigued by a U.S. candidacy announcement in years.

I say, why the hell not? Many important political figures have served jail time, especially for politically-charged offenses. Unmemorable political figures often do heinous acts in their free time and suffer little consequence.

I don't expect Chelsea Manning's candidacy to result in her election, but I'm impressed to hear of someone who did so much time in prison set her goals so high -- just for that reason alone I am intrigued.

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Re: Chelsea Manning Running for US Senate

#20 Post by Ogion » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:15 am

Actually, a lot of what wikileaks publishes isn't necessarily illegal, just not released. Leaking isn't usually a crime, or at least it wasn't until the Obama administration distorted existing laws to attack whistleblowers.

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