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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#41 Post by teccles » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:20 pm

teccles wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:14 pm
I had been using the strategy I employed in the first game rather consistently - the turn to STP was the new thing. I definitely made some mistakes after that; particularly, I think I should have taken MUN in Spring 1903, getting me a build. I also think my fleet should have gone via Denmark, which again gets me an extra build in 1903. Having only the one build there really hurt me.
I meant BER in Spring 1903, rather than MUN.

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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#42 Post by RoganJosh » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:35 pm

You could have taken Munich in A02, and then either bounced Boh in S03 or put an army in Silesia in S03. Then you wouldn't have had to face the Austrian Wall (Tyr/Boh/Sil/Pru) in 1904. The bot really likes that 1904 Austrian Wall. I think the best defense is to make sure that, whatever you do, get an army in Munich in A02.
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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#43 Post by RoganJosh » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:36 pm

Context: the bot will almost always allow you to take Mun in A02 if you want it.

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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#44 Post by teccles » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

Thanks. I agree, supporting BUR-MUN is a better good way to go in A02 here.

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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#45 Post by President Eden » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:15 pm

I'm really starting to like F Bre/A Par as France's 1901 builds over A Par/A Mar. I think I just don't know how to maximize the utility of that Marseilles army, probably. But fighting over Tunis is usually decisive, and F Bre makes that much easier.

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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#46 Post by Doug7878 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:19 am

czechveck got a win as France - an interesting game :

https://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?game ... #gamePanel

Congrats, czechveck ! Well done !
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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#47 Post by dipperjay » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:04 am

Good game, chechveck.

After a 3-day wait, I tried a few games again and just got another win. An intense battle for Tunis just prevented an Austrian runaway win and after that was stable, I cruised to get Stp as 18th. Fun game!

https://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=334138

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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#48 Post by Doug7878 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:10 pm

Nice job taking and holding BER ! Makes all the difference I think, since it buys you enough time to take STP.

The BOT as Austria seems to be able to win too QUICKLY if he holds STP and BER. Not enough time to take either SC from him.

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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#49 Post by President Eden » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:37 pm

I'm declaring a total victory for mankind, I literally made the bot quit. It'll take another week or so before it exhausts its delays and surrenders.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=333609
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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#50 Post by dipperjay » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:55 pm

Well done, CptMike :eyeroll:

A few days ago, I started a game and the bot wouldn’t enter orders for Spring 1901. So I canceled it and tried again, same result. It’s a moody spirit.

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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#51 Post by dipperjay » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:30 am

Second win in a row: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... ocache=568

Something really weird happened, look at Fall 1906. The bot had a 100% chance of winning, F Tys-Rom was all that was needed. I even gave up on making any advances, fully expecting to lose. But he didn’t make the move! I’m not an expert, but isn’t that a clear programming mistake?

Even though I didn’t take advantage of that in Fall 1906, my position still allowed a 50-50 guess to capture Tunis in 1907, which I did.
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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#52 Post by Doug7878 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:49 pm

Oh, no !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Dipperjay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... #gamePanel

This bot is getting scary.

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Re: Fairbot Belt challenge

#53 Post by dipperjay » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:19 pm

Yes, Fairbot is ruthless in punishing the tiniest mistake, Doug :shock: But I’ll be back...

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