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Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:49 am
by damo666
I cannot work out a scenario where cult recruited both nights. If this were the case how did we get the Dr lynch through?
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:50 am
by DemonRHK
Worc is hardly clear anymore
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:50 am
by worcej
DrCJG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:23 pm
@DemonRHK/worcej - I think it is possible one of you were recruited last night, but otherwise I think you are least likely to be a cult leader. I feel like Damo (curser) with Bozo (recruiter/recruited) makes the most sense... I urge you to look back with the assumption that I am town having made a badly timed move on to Yav...
(From my POV)
- Damo - 1 of 3 that could be curser -
- D1 - Says practically nothing
- N1 - Becomes active... comes out with a scum pairing theory and drops that:
damo666 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:05 pm
There are four players who are in the list more frequently than others and they are:
DemonRHK DrCJG Worcej and Yoyo
But, never followed up to explain them...
- D2-
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:00 pm
tbh I'm not actually scumreading anyone, merely townreading some people less than others and I'm not entirely happy with my vote on Bozo.
What are people's opinions on Neph?
At the time I felt like this post seemed a little scummy as it seemed to be attempting to blend in and leave his options open, but if he really is a teammate with Bozo, it makes even more sense as he needed to find a way off Bozo as D2 rattled on...
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:00 pm
Yoyo is presumably gonna be a no vote and Yav not going to switch so a slpit of 5-4 would be ideal.
Bozo, do you like this plan? If you are town it could make your sacrifice a winning one.
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:03 pm
How about making it Bozo and Yav? We may lose a town but gain lots of info. Maybe even narrow original scumpair to 2! Woohoo!
##VOTE YAV
Here, Damo makes his move off Bozo (while implying he still scum reads him) and asks for a 5-4 split... which if Damo cursed Jamie would ensure Bozo is safe... but that was while Jamie was still on Bozo
Then Damo proceeds to convince Jamie to switch from Bozo to Yav, not knowing that Jamie is a mason that is going to die and thinking that this will hide his curse on him...
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:30 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:25 pm
It's pretty hard to reach any conclusion. Yozo would now be a poor lynch.
What about my suggestion of switching from Bozo to Yav?
If Bozo is scum he ain't gonna die in whether a switch or not. If Yav scum he ain't gonna die UNLESS switch (probably). I think it's a no brainer. Also might out a partner(s).
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:40 pm
Okay Damo
##VOTE YAVUZOVIC
Then... all of a sudden... now that Jamie is on Yav...
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:40 pm
As it stands a town lynch looks inevitable due to the curse. We need a 7 vote wagon to have any chance of a scumlynch. If its a mislynch so be it but at the moment it looks like a guaranteed townlynch.
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:48 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:40 pm
As it stands a town lynch looks inevitable due to the curse. We need a 7 vote wagon to have any chance of a scumlynch. If its a mislynch so be it but at the moment it looks like a guaranteed townlynch.
The top wagon need to be 3 larger than the next wagon to avoid the curse altering the lynch, 7 voted guarantees as it leaves only 4 votes for another wagon.
Then I jump on to make 7 and Bozo jumps off...
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:51 am
by DemonRHK
Someone may have dropped the ball hard and missed EoD? it's completely possible they missed one of the nights.
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:51 am
by worcej
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:49 am
I cannot work out a scenario where cult recruited both nights. If this were the case how did we get the Dr lynch through?
They can curse and recruit, why wouldn't they recruit?
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:51 am
by brainbomb
Who buys damo theories on me
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:51 am
by damo666
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:50 am
Worc is hardly clear anymore
Technically true but he was on the Dr wagon
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:52 am
by worcej
Regardless, there is only two options I see for lynch and that is Neph or Brain, period. One of them is a leader.
Only way it isn't is if the GMs would not say that a cult LEADER has died. ##call GM, is the death message for a leader and a cult member the same?
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:53 am
by worcej
brainbomb wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:51 am
Who buys damo theories on me
I don't buy it completely. Neph is just as likely a candidate as you.
My question, because I wasn't here live, but why did you call for the move to Squigs?
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:54 am
by brainbomb
Ok then its always neph. Im absolutely not a cult ldr. Never was never will be
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:55 am
by brainbomb
Im.not anything other than town!!! If you twist my words ill fite u
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:55 am
by worcej
brainbomb wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:48 am
Uh why wouldnt cult have culted clear worcej?
Also, to be honest, I think they cursed me to check if I was a Mason based on Jaime's comments.
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:55 am
by DemonRHK
The fact I've seen ND online without a clarification leads me to think we don't get to know what kind of cult we hit and who's vote got flipped.
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:56 am
by damo666
worcej wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:51 am
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:49 am
I cannot work out a scenario where cult recruited both nights. If this were the case how did we get the Dr lynch through?
They can curse and recruit, why wouldn't they recruit?
Of course they would TRY to recruit but they may fail if they were recruiting a mason or a mason's blessed VT.
If they had successfully recruited both nights why would they sacrifice DrCJG?
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:56 am
by worcej
I will wait for a GM response to my question before passing any judgement tonight. No point jumping to any conclusions yet.
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:56 am
by brainbomb
worcej wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:55 am
brainbomb wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:48 am
Uh why wouldnt cult have culted clear worcej?
Also, to be honest, I think they cursed me to check if I was a Mason based on Jaime's comments.
.....
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:57 am
by brainbomb
Uhm what are you saying?
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:59 am
by worcej
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:56 am
If they had successfully recruited both nights why would they sacrifice DrCJG?
And then damo has to post this as I try to leave...
I think they definitely got one recruit off, and it may only have been DrCJG. It depends on the response to my question. If the death messages were the same for either type, then it is entirely possible that DrCJG was the cursor both times, which is very dangerous for the cult because if the other leader is hit then they all go and town wins.
This gives the mason, assuming only one exists right now, an exciting choice - gun for the other leader and maybe take out the whole cult or just go with Neph or Brain tonight, all depending on how my question is responded to.
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:59 am
by bozotheclown
I think it is almost certain that DrCJG was the town leader who cursed N1 based on his late move to the yavuzovic wagon, so he probably cursed N2 as well. This means the other cult leader could have 2 recruits. Based on brainbomb's play I think he was recruited N1. Nephthys being the N2 recruit would explain his vote for Squigs.
I still think DemonRHK's last minute move off of the yavuzovic wagon D2 and his poor excuse for doing so points to him as the second cult leader. I think he avoided the top wagons most of D3 to see what would happen. With Foxcastle voting for Squigs, I think DemonRHK decide to bus DrCJG knowing Nephthys would switch to Squigs, allowing them to lynch Squigs without DemonRHK voting for him. When Foxcastle switched his vote, it would have been too obvious for DemonRHK to switch his vote to Squigs.
In my opinion, DemonRHK should be the mason's target tonight.
Re: Cultafia Game Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:59 am
by worcej
brainbomb wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:57 am
Uhm what are you saying?
That I was cursed maybe? Jaime made a statement I was town, I am pretty sure I was the N1 Bless and potentially the N2 curse.