MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[y2kjbk]

I'm back to ##VOTE flash. Don't equate my situation with his, nurse's kit is a clearing item and a cannon is not barring item ownership swaps, no matter how they are used.

[Vecna]

No issue killin off vecna-yavuz-nd as our next 3

I take offense to my name being in those three. Im quite sure theres enough things for you to be able to read my alignment in by now.

[xorxes]

Why on Earth are we discussing this kind of unlikely cenários? First Flash and now y2k. We should focus on people we have no info.

Exactly right.

[brainbomb]

It comes and goes vecna. I have some thoughts on you obviously.

You arent scummier than ND-yavuz-DRHK but I wouldnt say you are lighting up the scoreboard

[DemonRHK]

I think the following:

- If the repair kit is still alive, it was a townie that grabbed the Cop Kit.

- If ghug is town, The replacement head is on one of the scum or died on MF.

- If the sticky is town and still in play they should claim it.

- I'm a fan of doing dumbs and should continue to do so.

Could you put some reasoning on this statements or you are just throwing it at random?

- If scum had the repair kit, damo or brain would likely be dead at this point, as they would have got a cannon back.

- The only reason to not have come forward with the theft is if you're a) scum or b) dead. Chaqa had plenty of time to confirm, MF did not, and Squigs couldn't have had it because well, he hung. I am operating under the assumption that bozo was rb'ed meaning he never would have got a steal off.

- There are few items left with direct night interaction beneficial to town. All claiming sticky does is draw a higher likelihood of NK because the 2nd Doc (If they're still alive) will avoid you like the plague.

- I'm notorious for doing dumb shit, and I never learn.

[Vecna]

Durga
Youre forgetting this guys played like 2 mafia games

If hes scum hes a first time scum.
First time scum are NOTORIOUS for doing gambit shit to get cred
First timers bus because they dont know what else to do in a pinch
They panic and many times see cannibalism as the only way to make it deep

They also love to point their gun at proclaimed scum and just pull the trigger whenever given the chance though. Durga feels very town here to me. Her shot was terrible, but her reasoning feels genuine to the max. So does Flash's

[brainbomb]

Other than posturing that towns doing so well that we dont need him- what is NDs towniest attributes

[xorxes]

But yes, scum probably does have a veteran (rd).

Do your think I tried to kill Brain and roleblocked Durga? I am offended now.

The roleblock of Durga could have been done by anyone, it doesn't really tells us anything.

As for trying to kill brain... It was a gamble. Maybe scum thought both docs would think the other would save him or something like that. I don't think it tells us much about the scumteam either.

[damo666]

##vote ND

do something ND

[Vecna]

I do think durga-ghug-tom all look alot less scummy today.

That they do.

I also really feel squigs was purposefully trying to make Tom look scummy by avoiding to vote him. That and I like that Tom is pushing DRHK

[rdrivera2005]

But yes, scum probably does have a veteran (rd).

Do your think I tried to kill Brain and roleblocked Durga? I am offended now.

The roleblock of Durga could have been done by anyone, it doesn't really tells us anything.

As for trying to kill brain... It was a gamble. Maybe scum thought both docs would think the other would save him or something like that. I don't think it tells us much about the scumteam either.

I think the Durga roleblock was a joke (or she is lying), but I still don't think it's a good choice, but I don't want to discuss scum tactics. And Brain attempted kill was awful, you don't gamble losing, with two medkits possibly around and to kill a useless (no offense intended) clear. This is really bad scum play and one of the reasons I started to town read you.

[damo666]

Vecna who are your most likely scumpair?

[ND]

I guess we are stuck in that old webdip loop. Lynch the lurker. Such bad play.

[brainbomb]

Squiggs stand out posts

Squigs44
Day-1 02:10
page 37
↑Durga: "Doesn't ND at least try (and fail) to contribute when he's town?"
Not last game.


Squigs44
Day-1 02:13
page 37
↑brainbomb: "Tom v ND is more a scum v scum type read. Where its preplanned bullshiylt fightinh so if either dies they can be distant"

Haven't they been at this since like before the game began


Squigs44
Day-1 03:27
page 34 @Tom - after almost 36 hours, can you still not read anyone well enough to have scum reads? Also you originally said you scumread ND for "feelings" and now you are saying you are voting him just to get him to talk. I feel like you have shifted your reasoning after some pushback


■Squiggs was mostly shading Tom for pushing ND


Squigs44
Day-1 00:09
page 44
↑flash2015: "Perhaps he has the second head?"
Flash, there is only one head.

Squigs44
Day-1 00:08
page 44 I had this crazy thought where ghug didn't actually have his item stolen, so maybe look into that.

Squigs44
Day-1 00:05
page 44 I'll vote Tom or Durga.

■favors tom or durga
■says ghug didnt have item stolen



Flash posts near EOD


flash2015
Day-1 00:33
page 42 I am surprised how quiet this is only 34 minutes from D1 end, if the game is still going of course...

flash2015
Day-1 00:31
page 42 Where is BB? He usually enjoys the last minute cat herding...

■said while on squiggs- squiggs lead wagon

flash2015
Day-1 00:29
page 42 ##CALL GM: Can we get a vote count?

flash2015
Day-1 00:24
page 42
↑Tom Bombadil: "What is the case on ghug?"

If I understand correctly, I believe it is because the interaction with Durga looks forced/fake/staged. It is assuming potentially a xorxes-ghug-durga scum team.

flash2015
Day-1 00:18
page 43
↑Jamiet99uk: "It's an unofficial game aid. I don't give too much of a shit. Game continues."
So you are OK with me asking for vote counts every five minutes then?


flash2015
Day-1 00:10
page 44 Perhaps he has the second head?

flash2015
Day-1 00:07
page 44
↑Squigs44: "Flash, there is only one head."
I was assuming you were the thief. I guess I am trying to understand why you are not fighting this harder.

flash2015
Day-1 00:06
page 44
↑brainbomb: "Durga seems so fake and TMI on every post"
Too late to change now?


flash2015
Day-1 00:03
page 45
↑Squigs44: "I'll vote Tom or Durga."
I am not sure about Tom...but I could vote Durga but it is probably too late for this day.

flash2015
Day-1 00:02
page 45 Something feels wrong here. There should be more drama...

[rdrivera2005]

I guess we are stuck in that old webdip loop. Lynch the lurker. Such bad play.

Stop being the lurker and give us something to get a read on you.

[Vecna]

FOAM HAMMER - You can bash a fellow player over the head and stun them. At night, PM both GMs in the format ##BASH [TARGET]. The target will be roleblocked.

Squiggs didnt use this N1?
Hmmm

Scum has a veteran on it. Who knows not to spray roleblocks around. Interesting.

Squigs is actually a very competent player. He was very impressive in Tinyhunt

[Vecna]

Xorxes smells like town, it's not based on something concrete, I feel.it.

Vecna is being confusing, I don't think a scum would protect his friend that strongly. I can't say anything but I can't stay.on Flash - he isn't today's lynch. So ##vote Vecna, for now. We will see if I stay there though.

This can definately die

[xorxes]

- If scum had the repair kit, damo or brain would likely be dead at this point, as they would have got a cannon back.

Why? If they have a cannon they will use it whenever most convenient, probably late rather than early. They would only use it now if the cannon holder is about to be lynched, or if they need to cause some chaos, otherwise they will probably save it for later.

That's why the two cannons being revealed and used so early suggests they were both with town.

- The only reason to not have come forward with the theft is if you're a) scum or b) dead. Chaqa had plenty of time to confirm, MF did not, and Squigs couldn't have had it because well, he hung. I am operating under the assumption that bozo was rb'ed meaning he never would have got a steal off.

No. A town thief should not have revealed, there was no need to. A lot of info can be gathered from his free mislynch, and revealing would only narrow down the pool of PCs for Mafia.

- There are few items left with direct night interaction beneficial to town. All claiming sticky does is draw a higher likelihood of NK because the 2nd Doc (If they're still alive) will avoid you like the plague.

There are two important items left with direct night interaction, and the less Mafia can narrow down who has them the better.

- I'm notorious for doing dumb shit, and I never learn.

This one I will grant as I don't know you that well.

[DemonRHK]

So the less info the town has, the better then in your opinion?

[Vecna]

Did Worcej do something that made people forget about him? He should be in people their scumpool but for some reason noone is discussing him.

##Vote Yavuz