MAFIA XXXVIII: INFINITY WAR

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie is probably scum based on how he is playing. This is basically his play this game, paraphrased, 'lol ND is scum cause he asks me questions and /cry if he ever questions me he is scum!'. Like he is a petulant child, but what has he really done apart from picking on people and fading in and out? I don't have a good feeling about him.

I don't care about your feelings, scummo.

[rdrivera2005]

Also @rdrivera

If someone melting away when called out as scummy is something that particularly sets your radar off, what do you think about dargorygel?

I think Dargo could be scum. If I am remembering correctly he used to avoid confrontation when he is scum and it's exactly what he is doing. And his wagon also vanished. I would not mind voting him. I don't like Ezio wagon, I think he is more a lazy town then scum and I am less convinced about Snowy.

[Foxcastle]

The thing I find interesting about the DT vote is that he didn't come back and explain that that's the voting format on MU, which I suspected, but didn't know, and wanted to see how he replied. Instead he ignored that and jumped on me pretty aggressively about overexamining Chippe's supposed town slip.

I thought it was a common format that's used in other mafia sites (the only other website I used so far is mafiascum, and they also use that voting format there) so i thought it was kind of like a universal format. I also thought, for some reason, you played mafia elsewhere (I am guessing you haven't now?) so I thought you were familiar with the format

I didn't see you really asking question about my vote format tho before I "jumped on to aggresively attack" you tho so idk what you are talking about there

I didn't really ask, I guess. I implied you had used the Mafia QT formatting (where you bold posts with tags) by mistake. Like I said, I figured it was formatting from another site and wanted to see what reaction the accusation got.

[DoubtingThomas]

Jamie is probably scum based on how he is playing. This is basically his play this game, paraphrased, 'lol ND is scum cause he asks me questions and /cry if he ever questions me he is scum!'. Like he is a petulant child, but what has he really done apart from picking on people and fading in and out? I don't have a good feeling about him.

I, personally, don't see Jamie playing all that differently than last game. It could be because of his ruckus with brainbomb but...

and also what you are describing Jamie to be doing is almost identical to what you are doing. hell, i think jamie's putting in more input due to his firm push on snowy? what's up with that?

[ND]

Jamie is probably scum based on how he is playing. This is basically his play this game, paraphrased, 'lol ND is scum cause he asks me questions and /cry if he ever questions me he is scum!'. Like he is a petulant child, but what has he really done apart from picking on people and fading in and out? I don't have a good feeling about him.

I don't care about your feelings, scummo.

I don't care about yours either, but I am fairly certain based on how you are trying to victimize yourself and also not contributing anything of value to the game that you are scum.

[Hellenic Riot]

Well it wasn't just the behavour at the time, but the long explanation Fox provided later on, when pressed on the matter. That explanation, to me, read very much like it was written by someone thinking "what would a logical and pro-town response be?" rather than "what was I actually doing?". If anything Fox's explanation felt like it was written too carefully, rather than just quickly providing an honest answer. It felt contrived.

Sure, the explanation wasn't great as it was essentially all WIFOM (scum wouldn't do something so obvious so I must be town guys), but given he was trying to dispel a very consistent attack, is it a surprise that he would put a lot of thought into a rebuttal of it? Given how long he was being pushed for the worcej slip, it makes sense to try and make a clean break from it. I don't see it in itself to be particularly alignment indicative.

So I'll rephrase and ask again - Do you have something unrelated to the worcej slip that concerns you about Foxcastle?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm contributing quite a bit.

ND has done fuck all.

[Hellenic Riot]

I think Dargo could be scum. If I am remembering correctly he used to avoid confrontation when he is scum and it's exactly what he is doing. And his wagon also vanished. I would not mind voting him. I don't like Ezio wagon, I think he is more a lazy town then scum and I am less convinced about Snowy.

Lovely. I agree. But, in this case, why were you targeting y2k over dargo for something that dargo has done to a far greater degree here?

[Jamiet99uk]

Well it wasn't just the behavour at the time, but the long explanation Fox provided later on, when pressed on the matter. That explanation, to me, read very much like it was written by someone thinking "what would a logical and pro-town response be?" rather than "what was I actually doing?". If anything Fox's explanation felt like it was written too carefully, rather than just quickly providing an honest answer. It felt contrived.

Sure, the explanation wasn't great as it was essentially all WIFOM (scum wouldn't do something so obvious so I must be town guys), but given he was trying to dispel a very consistent attack, is it a surprise that he would put a lot of thought into a rebuttal of it? Given how long he was being pushed for the worcej slip, it makes sense to try and make a clean break from it. I don't see it in itself to be particularly alignment indicative.

So I'll rephrase and ask again - Do you have something unrelated to the worcej slip that concerns you about Foxcastle?

At this moment in time, not particularly, no - he's not my top scumread and over the last 10 pages or so my interest has been focused on Snowy, who I strongly feel is scum at this point. Fox is overdue a more complete re-read if there's time.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok, I have to go for a while. I hope to be back well in time for EoD. Lynch Snowy, peeps. If you don't wanna lynch Snowy, try lynching ND.

[Hellenic Riot]

Also @Foxcastle can you answer my questions from post 954 please?

(Also, how do I link specifically to posts on this forum?)

[yavuzovic]

I think Jamie always plays like this

[ND]

Jamie is probably scum based on how he is playing. This is basically his play this game, paraphrased, 'lol ND is scum cause he asks me questions and /cry if he ever questions me he is scum!'. Like he is a petulant child, but what has he really done apart from picking on people and fading in and out? I don't have a good feeling about him.

I, personally, don't see Jamie playing all that differently than last game. It could be because of his ruckus with brainbomb but...

and also what you are describing Jamie to be doing is almost identical to what you are doing. hell, i think jamie's putting in more input due to his firm push on snowy? what's up with that?

@dt re-read jamie. Look at how he comes in and is like 'OH if ND ever questions me then scum' that's what we call making yourself a victim and shielding yourself from a player. That's not pro-town play. Then every chance he gets he tries to start shit for no reason. It's very scum indicative play and his motivations are very Jamie focused not town focused. His snowy thing, eh I don't like it. Look at how he jumps on to it after vecna starts it. I don't know. I still prefer fox but Jamie is close

[DoubtingThomas]

ND can i get a full read (doesnt need to be indepth) on ppl?

[ND]

ND can i get a full read (doesnt need to be indepth) on ppl?

A full read on 'people' um what?

[DoubtingThomas]

ND can i get a full read (doesnt need to be indepth) on ppl?

A full read on 'people' um what?

what?

full read list one everyone playing? or are we playing with robots or something too

[ND]

I think Jamie always plays like this

That's not really a valid reason. He is oozing scum. Maybe only I can see it because of what he has said directly to me, but it is so evident to me. ##vote Jamie

Fox is still decent but Jamie is scum.

[ND]

ND can i get a full read (doesnt need to be indepth) on ppl?

A full read on 'people' um what?

what?

full read list one everyone playing? or are we playing with robots or something too

Have you done a full reads list? It's like 3 hours till end. I don't have time to reread 50 pages and write out an entire list right now.

[flash2015]

Also @rdrivera

If someone melting away when called out as scummy is something that particularly sets your radar off, what do you think about dargorygel?

I think Dargo could be scum. If I am remembering correctly he used to avoid confrontation when he is scum and it's exactly what he is doing. And his wagon also vanished. I would not mind voting him. I don't like Ezio wagon, I think he is more a lazy town then scum and I am less convinced about Snowy.

Then why don't you come over and join me? Don't worry, I don't bite (much).

[ghug]

You think everyone reads and internalizes the entire setup post in full? You ostensibly didn't.

Read, I did. You have a point about internalizing though. No one has yet to answer one of my questions though: What information does the SK have that makes him less likely to forget?

Because it relates directly to what they're doing in the game, obviously.