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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:25 am
by TrPrado
That’s not a case. Everyone hopped off the wagon I wanted the most so I jumped over to someone else I believed to be scum. Certainly not a reason to keep going on about lynching me the way you are.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:25 am
by Balki Bartokomous
I see that, Bo. It's not a bad argument. But, it's not conclusive for me.

The vote was close. There was all manner of chaos. It was not at all clear that Snowy was going to hang. So, sitting back and making a few short towny-death-sounding posts isn't a bad way to go either. I wouldn't put that past Snowy.

So, I'd go town-lean. But your confidence seems unwarranted.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:35 am
by ghug
I don't like how much more bo talks at night than during the day.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:40 am
by bo_sox48
I talk a lot on Tuesdays and Thursdays because I'm here and I'm bored. Has nothing to do with my alignment.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:33 am
by DemonRHK
Quick review of bo:

Chaqa was less than zero. We get nothing on this player slot until N2.

bo’s entire townread on snowy and Balki breaks down to:

- bo thinks there is no way only one of snow and Jamie can be scum. This is a borderline reckless assumption.

- Many of bo’s posts are what looks to me like deflecting or attacks on people questioning Balki, all due to his belief that there is no way ever a scum player would start a new couterwagon close to EoD.

- bo is actively attempting to deflect attention at him and away from Balki.

In short, bo is drinking the coolaid and has join the cult. Apparently, no one is scum.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:40 am
by thamrick
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 11:47 pm
@ Ezio
@ Balki Bartokomous
@ thamrick
@ bo_sox48

You four. Why did you save Snowy? Answers please. Answers now, this phase. Town is LOSING and it is YOUR FUCKING FAULT.
I saw Balki's vote and didn't want to risk it ending in a tie. I'd hardly call it saving snowy. Though his last post seemed pretty towny.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:43 am
by ghug
RHK, I remember you being friendly and not a moron. Would you say those assessments were more accurate, or my current ones?

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:08 am
by DemonRHK
Is that what you want ghug? M17 RHK that meekly caught rope D1 and tried to be friendly?

The game isn’t friendly. I’ve been on what I am is convinced is scum for 3 day phases. And in the last two they’ve avoided the lynch at the last second.

I’ve yelled, I’ve pleaded, I’ve gone full brain, gone full Krellin, and even attempted to tear down the counter arguements.

I’m tired. If you all want to let snowy and his scumbuddies win a sweep, I’m not going to be able to stop you.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:44 am
by RagingIke297
ghug wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 2:43 am
RHK, I remember you being friendly and not a moron. Would you say those assessments were more accurate, or my current ones?
How do you remember me ghug?

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:44 am
by ghug
My real problem with you is that there's so much more rhetoric than substance in everything you're saying. Why is snowy even scum at this point? Is bo scum solely because you disagree? Who the fuck are their teammates?

The anger would normally get you townread, but you're spending more time on impassioned verbiage than impassioned thought, and that don't sit right with me.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:46 am
by ghug
RagingIke297 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 3:44 am
ghug wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 2:43 am
RHK, I remember you being friendly and not a moron. Would you say those assessments were more accurate, or my current ones?
How do you remember me ghug?
Kinda dumb.

I also remember you trying really hard to ask your shitty questions until you were forced to claim PR to save yourself and then going completely useless.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:58 am
by RagingIke297
ghug wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 3:46 am
RagingIke297 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 3:44 am
ghug wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 2:43 am
RHK, I remember you being friendly and not a moron. Would you say those assessments were more accurate, or my current ones?
How do you remember me ghug?
Kinda dumb.

I also remember you trying really hard to ask your shitty questions until you were forced to claim PR to save yourself and then going completely useless.
Not quite sure how to be unuseless besides using my PR and trying to get my scum reads lynched

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:11 am
by Jamiet99uk
What's this thing about "post reviews" being deactivated?

Has someone been cheating?

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:15 pm
by Tom Bombadil
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 11:11 am
What's this thing about "post reviews" being deactivated?

Has someone been cheating?
Nobody has been cheating. This was implemented to try to help with the forum lag at EOD's when traffic was high.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:43 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Thanks Tom.

@TrPrado: During D2 you appeared convinced that Telamor and I were scum team-mates. Now that you know what Telamor's alignment is, how does this alter your theories?

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:14 pm
by Foxcastle
I feel like Rdrivera usually gets more pressure than this and he's been largely ignored this game.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:36 pm
by rdrivera2005
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 1:14 pm
I feel like Rdrivera usually gets more pressure than this and he's been largely ignored this game.
You can start it, why ask the others to do your job?

I finished re-reading EOD3 and night and will write my thoughts about it. It could take a bit longer as I am on phone.

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:43 pm
by RagingIke297
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 1:14 pm
I feel like Rdrivera usually gets more pressure than this and he's been largely ignored this game.
Dargy has been flying under the radar for the most part too

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:44 pm
by Foxcastle
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 1:36 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 1:14 pm
I feel like Rdrivera usually gets more pressure than this and he's been largely ignored this game.
You can start it, why ask the others to do your job?

I finished re-reading EOD3 and night and will write my thoughts about it. It could take a bit longer as I am on phone.
Well, I'm not sure you're scum. You weren't scum when you were getting pressure in those previous games. I'm just noting an interesting dynamic, but maybe those other games were the outliers. If there's an experienced scum team, maybe they're the same people who would be pressuring you as scum if they were town, but aren't pressuring you because you're part of the team? (Which is a hypothetical, not a scumread.)

Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:56 pm
by rdrivera2005
Well, some considerations about last EOD:

I think now that Snowy is town. His reactions at EOD were really hard to fake and I never see a scum resign in a close voting like that, he didn’t even vote Telamor.

Thamrick is scum. His justification to vote Telamor is pure bullshit and it’s a good scum move to lynch Telamor and have Snowy as another target for the next day.

Ike is scum, and I agree with Ghug we need to force him to claim a specific role and maybe even declare his target at EON. Otherwise he will probably try to force us to myslinch a townie with a fake guilty scan or force a PR or even both to expose himself. There is no world where scum won´t at least roleblock a real PR. And my guess he is not claiming to have been roleblocked to be able to fake a guilty scan at some point.

I am not completely sure at Balki, but I will not be against lynching him. I just can’t find a reason to roleblock him N1 and then left him around this way and his pattern to generate some chaos at EOD doesn’t look towny.

Yav is town, his vote on Snowy is as town as it can be.

I am starting to have bad vibes about Bo, he was so sure about Snowy after EOD2 that it’s like he have some info we don’t.