MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Balki - how do you react to Ghug flipping town, since you scumread him yesterday?

How do I react? I'm sorry to lose ghug. RIP ghug.

[RagingIke297]

@RagingIke - In the game so far, did you notice anyone else softing or crumbing Doctor?

If you did, don't say their name - at this point a yay or nay is good enough...

No, but I haven't been really looking. I'll reread and see if that changes my answer

[RagingIke297]

##call gm, since I was roleblocked can I target the same person tomorrow night?

[Foxcastle]

Ike, why didn't you protect yourself N1 or N2? Whether you were the cop or the doctor, if the scumteam was trying to game out when you would have been protected, killing you one of those two nights would have made the most sense. So protecting yourself one of those two nights would also have made the most sense, particularly over the 0.5% chance of guessing the night kill correctly.

[Foxcastle]

5% chance, that is.

[Foxcastle]

##VOTE BALKI

[Balki Bartokomous]

Ike, why didn't you protect yourself N1 or N2? Whether you were the cop or the doctor, if the scumteam was trying to game out when you would have been protected, killing you one of those two nights would have made the most sense. So protecting yourself one of those two nights would also have made the most sense, particularly over the 0.5% chance of guessing the night kill correctly.

+1

[yavuzovic]

Wait, ghug, my scummiest scumread, ghug, is town. Funny, shame on my reads.
Okay, ##vote snowy
If I can't read good I just follow others. But I also scumread Snowy too. I told you before, I think at least one of snowy and Jamiet is scum.

[DemonRHK]

Wait, ghug, my scummiest scumread, ghug, is town. Funny, shame on my reads.
Okay, ##vote snowy
If I can't read good I just follow others. But I also scumread Snowy too. I told you before, I think at least one of snowy and Jamiet is scum.

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This is the first post to give me hesitation on snowy in this game. Yavu straight admits to sheeping and then votes one of his top scumreads along the other top scumread.

[yavuzovic]

What's wrong with that?

[RagingIke297]

Ike, why didn't you protect yourself N1 or N2? Whether you were the cop or the doctor, if the scumteam was trying to game out when you would have been protected, killing you one of those two nights would have made the most sense. So protecting yourself one of those two nights would also have made the most sense, particularly over the 0.5% chance of guessing the night kill correctly.

+1

I didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night before

[Jamiet99uk]

Ike, why didn't you protect yourself N1 or N2? Whether you were the cop or the doctor, if the scumteam was trying to game out when you would have been protected, killing you one of those two nights would have made the most sense. So protecting yourself one of those two nights would also have made the most sense, particularly over the 0.5% chance of guessing the night kill correctly.

+1

I didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night before

But surely you must have thought about the risk you would be taking, if the scum believed your claim was credible?

[RagingIke297]

+1

I didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night before

But surely you must have thought about the risk you would be taking, if the scum believed your claim was credible?

With the low number of people that actually believed my claim I didnt think scum would dare flip me and reveal the truth, they're playing long game and they're playing it well

[Foxcastle]

Ike, why didn't you protect yourself N1 or N2? Whether you were the cop or the doctor, if the scumteam was trying to game out when you would have been protected, killing you one of those two nights would have made the most sense. So protecting yourself one of those two nights would also have made the most sense, particularly over the 0.5% chance of guessing the night kill correctly.

+1

I didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night before

Your full claim didn't matter. You outed yourself as either the doctor or the cop, you were fully exposed to the scumteam for them to eliminate, and given their certain desire to remove the cop from game, that must have been tantalizing from them. And yet, you didn't feel the need. Why not? Like, take me through the reasoning that gets you to that decision.

[Foxcastle]

I didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night before

But surely you must have thought about the risk you would be taking, if the scum believed your claim was credible?

With the low number of people that actually believed my claim I didnt think scum would dare flip me and reveal the truth, they're playing long game and they're playing it well

Wow! You must be pretty good at this game to know that the mafia are playing the long game on N1!

[Balki Bartokomous]

@RagingIke,

I'd like you to flesh this out as much as possible.

It's Night 1. You just claimed PR, which moved people off of your wagon and onto another wagon. So, obviously there were people who at least reacted to your claim. If you are town, then you know that the mafia team knows you are town, and must believe that you are a PR.

You did not think that mafia would want to kill you? How can that be? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would suspect you of being a PR? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would have a very strong interest in killing PRs?

[Balki Bartokomous]

With the low number of people that actually believed my claim I didnt think scum would dare flip me and reveal the truth, they're playing long game and they're playing it well

Why do you say "the low number of people that actually believed your claim"?

(1) Don't you think that Scum would have believed your claim? Isn't that the most important consideration when thinking about the Night Kill?

(2) Seems like some people believed your claim. Your claim saved you from getting lynched, right?

[RagingIke297]

@RagingIke,

I'd like you to flesh this out as much as possible.

It's Night 1. You just claimed PR, which moved people off of your wagon and onto another wagon. So, obviously there were people who at least reacted to your claim. If you are town, then you know that the mafia team knows you are town, and must believe that you are a PR.

You did not think that mafia would want to kill you? How can that be? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would suspect you of being a PR? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would have a very strong interest in killing PRs?

I'm on my phone so I'll flesh out my thinking more later. As I said, scum is playing long, they aren't going to kill me because they are going to let the town do it for them. It's a risky strategy, but it's paying off even better than they could have planned. Yes they know I'm a PR, but they know that they can paint me as scum by not killing me, and my being doctor is just another reason to keep me hanging out in the wind

[Jamiet99uk]

@RagingIke,

I'd like you to flesh this out as much as possible.

It's Night 1. You just claimed PR, which moved people off of your wagon and onto another wagon. So, obviously there were people who at least reacted to your claim. If you are town, then you know that the mafia team knows you are town, and must believe that you are a PR.

You did not think that mafia would want to kill you? How can that be? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would suspect you of being a PR? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would have a very strong interest in killing PRs?

I'm on my phone so I'll flesh out my thinking more later. As I said, scum is playing long, they aren't going to kill me because they are going to let the town do it for them. It's a risky strategy, but it's paying off even better than they could have planned. Yes they know I'm a PR, but they know that they can paint me as scum by not killing me, and my being doctor is just another reason to keep me hanging out in the wind

Please explain the highlighted statement? I do not understand what you mean.

[RagingIke297]

@RagingIke,

I'd like you to flesh this out as much as possible.

It's Night 1. You just claimed PR, which moved people off of your wagon and onto another wagon. So, obviously there were people who at least reacted to your claim. If you are town, then you know that the mafia team knows you are town, and must believe that you are a PR.

You did not think that mafia would want to kill you? How can that be? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would suspect you of being a PR? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would have a very strong interest in killing PRs?

I'm on my phone so I'll flesh out my thinking more later. As I said, scum is playing long, they aren't going to kill me because they are going to let the town do it for them. It's a risky strategy, but it's paying off even better than they could have planned. Yes they know I'm a PR, but they know that they can paint me as scum by not killing me, and my being doctor is just another reason to keep me hanging out in the wind

Please explain the highlighted statement? I do not understand what you mean.

If I'm the cop it's more of a problem, I can continue to scan and continue to look for scum. The only thing I can do is clear someone and prevent NK's. Point bring that I can find innos but I can't out any scum. IMO if I'm cop, scum would kill me tonight. Since I'm doctor they continue on their current course