MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2741 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 30, 2018 2:30 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 12:18 pm
In the event of an endhammer no modkills happen. A modkill only happens if a player does not meet requirements in a full day phase.
The problem isn't him surviving the day, the problem is that he said he won't be back.

##vote Yavuzovic

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2742 Post by DrCJG » Wed May 30, 2018 2:53 pm

@ Ezio – As I said before, it feels like the Jamie NK is nothing but WIFOM.

Jamie posted individualized read list N6/D7, but they were pretty inconclusive except for Thamrick and Snowy… N7 he made it clear that he though Snowy should be lynched. The most logical explanation for killing Jamiet is because he was going to lead a push against scum snowy… but that’s where WIFOM kicks in and it seems just as likely they wanted us to think that Snowy is indeed scum.

It may be worth considering if we would have successfully lynched snowy had Jamie not been NK’d… I would have so that makes 2… if Snowy is town, a kill on Ezio or Rdr would have made the most logical sense as it would have decreased the “snowy is towncleared” movement. But, again I run into WIFOM…

@ Snowy –
I think I have listed my arguments against Yav several times at this point, and I again encourage everyone to go back and read them… in essence:
  • His D1 voting was contradictory when he unvoted Ghug claiming he would vote Ezio because no-lynch votes are scummy then felt no one was scummy enough to lynch and voted no-lynch… he does return at EoD with Ike, Bozo, and Peter (all town) on wagons and keeps his vote.

    In D2 he proceeded to want to lynch Ike… but ended up on Snowy (which admittedly does make it seem less likely that Snowy and Yav are both scum)

    His D3 voting… where he claimed that although he had voted Snowy D2, he no longer could find anything scummy about Snowy… voted Jamie… then immediately turned around and voted Snowy without explanation

    His D4 voting… where he said “Okay @@vote snowy If I can’t read good I just follow others.” … then in the final minute stated that he had not read the last 7 pages, voted Balki and was never able to give a reason for the vote.

    To be fair… I am not sure he has provided any analysis much less rationale for voting… which in itself is another reason to lynch him and one that goes on your list as well.
But, IF Snowy is town then I would expect that at least one of Yav, DrCJG, and Jamiet is scum because if not the two scum on Thamrick could have swung the vote to save Thamrick… or just one could have moved to Snowy for the tie (and/or Thamrick could break the tie)…

Jamiet has been cleared, I know I am town… therefore… I think it is extremely likely that at least one of Snowy and Yav is scum.

Snowy you have never tied yourself down to anything and yet you have routinely been saved over town, I will look back at your votes now that I know Jamie is town, but for the moment ##Vote Snowy

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2743 Post by Foxcastle » Wed May 30, 2018 3:16 pm

5 town, 2 scum.

If we lynch scum, and Yavuz is modkilled, after the NK we're then at 3 town and one scum for LyLo.

If we lynch Yavuz and he's town (which I think is likely), after the NK we're at 3 town and two scum for LyLo, followed by 2-on-1 for the end of the game.

I'm not sure which of those scenarios is better.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2744 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 30, 2018 3:50 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 3:16 pm
5 town, 2 scum.

If we lynch scum, and Yavuz is modkilled, after the NK we're then at 3 town and one scum for LyLo.

If we lynch Yavuz and he's town (which I think is likely), after the NK we're at 3 town and two scum for LyLo, followed by 2-on-1 for the end of the game.

I'm not sure which of those scenarios is better.
You are just telling us your are scum? Because you are the most likely lynch (you are even voting yourself).

If we myslinch today and Yav is modkilled it's game over. So, we should either lynch Yav or end hammer the day and hope he get back to next day.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2745 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed May 30, 2018 4:40 pm

GM Note:

I have found a willing sub in the event yavu does not return. He will not be modkilled at EOD - the sub will be put it at the beginning of the night phase if yavu does not meet requirements.
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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2746 Post by Foxcastle » Wed May 30, 2018 4:43 pm

Yeah, I totally just confessed. You got me! :eyeroll: :eyeroll: :eyeroll:

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2747 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed May 30, 2018 5:50 pm

Vote Count 8.1

Foxcastle (1): Foxcastle
DrCJG (1): snowy801
Yavuzovic (1): rdirvera2005
Snowy801 (1): DrCJG


The following players have yet to vote: Ezio, TrPrado, yavuzovic
The following players have not yet met posting requirements: Ezio, TrPrado, yavuzovic

End votes (1): Foxcastle


Currently nobody is set to be lynched

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2748 Post by Ezio » Wed May 30, 2018 6:06 pm

K ##vote foxcastle. Nothing today has changed my views since yesterday enough and us getting a sub for yav makes this much cleaner.

When it's an Rd+snowy scum team I'm gonna cry.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2749 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 30, 2018 6:08 pm

@GM - Great job, thanks.

##vote Fox - It's still my strongest scumread.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2750 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 30, 2018 6:09 pm

Ezio wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 6:06 pm
K ##vote foxcastle. Nothing today has changed my views since yesterday enough and us getting a sub for yav makes this much cleaner.

When it's an Rd+snowy scum team I'm gonna cry.
I will cry if scumteam is you and Yav.

Where is Prado?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2751 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 30, 2018 6:13 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 4:43 pm
Yeah, I totally just confessed. You got me! :eyeroll: :eyeroll: :eyeroll:
As you are around, could you read my analisys of your voting D3 and also DrCJG analysis and say what you think? What a scum will do in that position? And what do you think of DrCJG? He seems to be defending you, of you are town it could be a scum trying to look good if you flip town? Also, who you scumread, as voting yourself isn't great for town?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2752 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 30, 2018 6:14 pm

Ezio wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 6:06 pm
K ##vote foxcastle. Nothing today has changed my views since yesterday enough and us getting a sub for yav makes this much cleaner.

When it's an Rd+snowy scum team I'm gonna cry.
And why do you show only when people or GM post you didn't met the requirements?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2753 Post by Foxcastle » Wed May 30, 2018 6:21 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 6:13 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 4:43 pm
Yeah, I totally just confessed. You got me! :eyeroll: :eyeroll: :eyeroll:
As you are around, could you read my analisys of your voting D3 and also DrCJG analysis and say what you think? What a scum will do in that position? And what do you think of DrCJG? He seems to be defending you, of you are town it could be a scum trying to look good if you flip town? Also, who you scumread, as voting yourself isn't great for town?
I can play question-answer right now, but am on my phone, so going back and doing a lot of rereading is unlikely.

I scumread Ezio and Snowy, but if it's not Snowy, it could be DrCJG

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2754 Post by TrPrado » Wed May 30, 2018 6:43 pm

Here again and will likely be available through EOD, been doing family stuff for a bit. I notice the highest post count is 9, which is kind of scary this close to EOD with a full 7 people and not being at LyLo yet.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2755 Post by TrPrado » Wed May 30, 2018 6:45 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 6:21 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 6:13 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 4:43 pm
Yeah, I totally just confessed. You got me! :eyeroll: :eyeroll: :eyeroll:
As you are around, could you read my analisys of your voting D3 and also DrCJG analysis and say what you think? What a scum will do in that position? And what do you think of DrCJG? He seems to be defending you, of you are town it could be a scum trying to look good if you flip town? Also, who you scumread, as voting yourself isn't great for town?
I can play question-answer right now, but am on my phone, so going back and doing a lot of rereading is unlikely.

I scumread Ezio and Snowy, but if it's not Snowy, it could be DrCJG
If you're town and die, then we don't have the opportunity to go through "If it's not ____ it's ____

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2756 Post by TrPrado » Wed May 30, 2018 6:53 pm

DrCJG wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:17 pm
@TrPrado, you said the "rest of the case against Fox hold up. Except, however, the part where Ezio tries to base it more on meta than he should." ... prior to that I feel like you have only suspected Fox because of his unwillingness to believe that Ike is the doctor. Is there something else you can point to?
I feel like you've misunderstood me. His unwillingness to believe Ike as doctor gave me hesitation to suspect Fox as scum. Fox's interactions with other scummies have been what I've found more scum-aligning of him, but I wasn't sure I could really see a scum being so aggressively against the idea that the doctor who he would have been just about to kill wasn't actually the doctor despite the scum team RB'ing him 3 nights in a row.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2757 Post by Foxcastle » Wed May 30, 2018 7:21 pm

<Shrug> Sorry, TrPrado, I'm just not certain. But I gave you my two.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2758 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 30, 2018 7:28 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 7:21 pm
<Shrug> Sorry, TrPrado, I'm just not certain. But I gave you my two.
This "I don't care if I am being myslinched in the last myslinch" is that make me believe you are not townie.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2759 Post by TrPrado » Wed May 30, 2018 7:30 pm

##VOTE FOXCASTLE

I can't in good faith believe that your actions can add up to those of a townie.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2760 Post by Foxcastle » Wed May 30, 2018 7:38 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 7:28 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 7:21 pm
<Shrug> Sorry, TrPrado, I'm just not certain. But I gave you my two.
This "I don't care if I am being myslinched in the last myslinch" is that make me believe you are not townie.
Man supposed to rail and shout?

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