Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:25 pm
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I think it is quite plain to see that there is two scum in that post, so why not?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:22 pm@thamrick: Look at this post from Ezio D4:
Ezio was bussing xorxes here because he was widely scum read and was going to get lynch either D4 or D5. If rdrivera was town, do you think Ezio would bus me also, considering he had just put himself at further risk be counterclaiming rdrivera? Both Ezio and rdrivera were scum reading me so that when one got lynched, the one that did not get lynched would look like town and could push for my lynch.
If rdrivera was town, Ezio would have put himself at risk by counter claiming a town, then bussed both of his teammates who had voted with him each day. If Ezio got lynched D4, xorxes would be the next lynch, and when he flipped scum, I would be the next obvious lynch. I think this was there plan, and it looks like it is going to work.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:38 pmI think it is quite plain to see that there is two scum in that post, so why not?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:22 pm@thamrick: Look at this post from Ezio D4:
Ezio was bussing xorxes here because he was widely scum read and was going to get lynch either D4 or D5. If rdrivera was town, do you think Ezio would bus me also, considering he had just put himself at further risk be counterclaiming rdrivera? Both Ezio and rdrivera were scum reading me so that when one got lynched, the one that did not get lynched would look like town and could push for my lynch.
This makes no sense, if I were scum he would be bussing both of his teammates after counterclaiming one of them. The plan was to lynch me and it almost worked.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:11 pmIf rdrivera was town, Ezio would have put himself at risk by counter claiming a town, then bussed both of his teammates who had voted with him each day. If Ezio got lynched D4, xorxes would be the next lynch, and when he flipped scum, I would be the next obvious lynch. I think this was there plan, and it looks like it is going to work.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:38 pmI think it is quite plain to see that there is two scum in that post, so why not?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:22 pm@thamrick: Look at this post from Ezio D4:
Ezio was bussing xorxes here because he was widely scum read and was going to get lynch either D4 or D5. If rdrivera was town, do you think Ezio would bus me also, considering he had just put himself at further risk be counterclaiming rdrivera? Both Ezio and rdrivera were scum reading me so that when one got lynched, the one that did not get lynched would look like town and could push for my lynch.
I believe the plan was to get you or Ezio lynched and clear the other long enough to get one mislynch. xorxes was going to get lynched D4 and D5 so it made sense for both of you to bus xorxes, and obviously you were bussing each other with the competing claims. It makes a lot more sense than bussing both of his teammates while counterclaiming a town.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:26 pmThis makes no sense, if I were scum he would be bussing both of his teammates after counterclaiming one of them. The plan was to lynch me and it almost worked.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:11 pmIf rdrivera was town, Ezio would have put himself at risk by counter claiming a town, then bussed both of his teammates who had voted with him each day. If Ezio got lynched D4, xorxes would be the next lynch, and when he flipped scum, I would be the next obvious lynch. I think this was there plan, and it looks like it is going to work.
In which universe this make sense, scum need one myslinch but instead of choosing a town to get myslinched they went for a complex plan bussing each other to win the game on lylo. If Ezio counterclaimed Xorxes or he were widely scumread it could make some sense, but I don't think he was a sure lynch.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:48 pmI believe the plan was to get you or Ezio lynched and clear the other long enough to get one mislynch. xorxes was going to get lynched D4 and D5 so it made sense for both of you to bus xorxes, and obviously you were bussing each other with the competing claims. It makes a lot more sense than bussing both of his teammates while counterclaiming a town.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:26 pmThis makes no sense, if I were scum he would be bussing both of his teammates after counterclaiming one of them. The plan was to lynch me and it almost worked.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:11 pm
If rdrivera was town, Ezio would have put himself at risk by counter claiming a town, then bussed both of his teammates who had voted with him each day. If Ezio got lynched D4, xorxes would be the next lynch, and when he flipped scum, I would be the next obvious lynch. I think this was there plan, and it looks like it is going to work.
Ezio counterclaiming you was just as likely to get himself lynched, probably more so since he was more widely scum read, and it did in fact get him lynched.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:00 pmIn which universe this make sense, scum need one myslinch but instead of choosing a town to get myslinched they went for a complex plan bussing each other to win the game on lylo. If Ezio counterclaimed Xorxes or he were widely scumread it could make some sense, but I don't think he was a sure lynch.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:48 pmI believe the plan was to get you or Ezio lynched and clear the other long enough to get one mislynch. xorxes was going to get lynched D4 and D5 so it made sense for both of you to bus xorxes, and obviously you were bussing each other with the competing claims. It makes a lot more sense than bussing both of his teammates while counterclaiming a town.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:26 pm
This makes no sense, if I were scum he would be bussing both of his teammates after counterclaiming one of them. The plan was to lynch me and it almost worked.
If you are town, you should realize that explanation is too simple. You said it yourself:
Do you really expect it to be simple and that xorxes, Ezio, and I always voted together as scum?thamrick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:16 amWith brainbomb, xorxes, and ezio all scum, I'd consider there to be some pretty good mafia minds in the mafia QT. Why was Vecna killed? He was an outed useless PR. No doc to protect him. He would have been easy to kill at any point down the road. Why would they waste a NK on him when there was still a cop? Even if you assume they had a copread on Snowy and were planning on shooting him immediately with the Illusionist gun, why not go ahead and take another chance on NK'ing a secondary copread?
I assume because he was a town clear that they had to get rid of at some point. I find it odd because of yavuzovic implying he was the cop, but I do not see why it matters at this point.
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(still a bad lynch though)
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so that makes for a scumteam of brwinbomb, bozo, ezio and some other shmuck.
Ezio had 4 votes and xorxes had 2 votes D1, do you think it likely that would be the reason to NK Vecna if I were scum? If I remember correctly, Vecna never even gave a reason why he suspected me.
The town could have still followed Vecna's read after he was NKed, if anything NKing Vecna would make town give his read more consideration, he was a town clear either way.thamrick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:38 pmIf they weren't scared of following the townclear's reads, I don't see why they would kill him. If you're town, why not try to NK a copread, shoot a copread, get you mislynched by following Vecna, and then NK him if he's still scumreading BB and Ezio when his credibility is lower after mislynching you.