MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[rdrivera2005]

First of all, great job town catching Demon, I think most of the wagon is townie, maybe some of the later votes are scum bussing, but I don't see more then one.

Second, welcome Flum.

I don't think HB was the counter wagon to Demon unless Maniac is scum. It looks a lot more like Kaka was the counter wagon, but there is a good chance both are town.

Explain how you moved from Dargorygel to Unvote to Hamilton without once mentioning DemonRHK, while DemonRHK was the lead wagon?

I mentioned Demon, I told I would vote him over Kaka but he was on my null list. I would rather vote my scumread (HB) and only switch if needed. I could have jumped on Demon last minute to look well but I didn't think it was needed.

[yavuzovic]

Rivera you could have bussed but
1. There was hope to votekill HB over RHK umtil late game
2. It would be super scummy if you moved on RHK minutes before EoD.

[rdrivera2005]

##Vote kakarroto

I'm townreading brain, a quick iso didn't turn up much, and a self-pres vote.

This came when brain and kakarroto were both 3. I won't be surprised if the scum team is RHK (dead), Brainbomb, Hamilton Brian and two more. What do you think about this Jamie?

That would be too many.
There were 5 scum to start with. Four are left.

I think Maniac is scum, and I think the wagon on HB was an attempt to save DemonRHK. Maniac joined that wagon and then leapt onto DemonRHK to save face when it was too late.

Worcej was locked on HB for shitty reasoning hours before EoD and didn't re-appear.

Scum: Worcej, Maniac, Brainbomb, one more.

I also think Maniac vote on HB and then Demon is scummy.

[rdrivera2005]

Rivera you could have bussed but
1. There was hope to votekill HB over RHK umtil late game
2. It would be super scummy if you moved on RHK minutes before EoD.

1. I don't think HB had a chance to be the kill, but fine.
2. Why it would become scummy? I told I would vote and if someone had voted Kaka close to EOD I would have voted Demon immediately.

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't think HB had a chance to be the kill, but fine.

So you sat on a wagon you did not think was going to be the kill, even though you said you would move, but you did not move?

[Hamilton Brian]

Just got back from the in-laws but I feel like there's some interesting suspicions being tossed around. If I were an outside spectator watching this post-D1 play out I'd be pretty impressed. I don't want to say much more since I haven't had the time to check what some of you are proposing.

I will say I feel like I have been somewhat cleared and it's really time to try to step up and make some cases of my own. It's not my strong suit.

Remember that SVU series Criminal Intent? Brainbomb reminds me of the D'Onofrio character...looking around, being kind of annoying, but persevering.

[belCavendishNY]

hi all, i'm so sorry i missed the beginning of this i'll be reading through backlog but what did i miss?

[Kakarroto]

[...]
See ya!

- I'm back!

[...]
dargo is not in the group of players I'd vote for today. I'd say he's pretty nullish. I think dargo, like me, is prone to making mistakes and carrying them away (as both alignments), so the fact he and I erred on the same thing doesn't tell me anything either way.

- noted, thanks

also 59 pages, are you all insane? I have to catch up to 21 pages?? guess I got to it now then

again you just keep repeating yourself with nothing new to add or say. the only reason I have to keep repeating my points is because im brainbomb and people just ignore my points anyway

- I read everything you post, by the way, you should finish your story you've written in the last game, it was quite interesting

Damo is very quiet. What's the matter, Damo?

I'm celebrating your 40th birthday

+1

##End

- did you know, if you vote the player who ended and then write dnE# , you basically render his endvote void

[...]
Kgray is voting for me because of kak's tinfoil hat... And because, as far as I can tell, I was wrong. That might be ironic...

Kak has not asked me anything... But has asked others ABOUT me. That feels like a scummy investigation method...

I've had my vote on maniac because he was a low poster, and his posts were weird. But I maniac is better than to scum lurk so obviously.
[...]

- true, I didn't ask you something, because of my limited time due to sleep and work I tried to gather information with people I knew were online (plus ghug an maniac with the @ thing but that was early on) so my information accumulates. Since I didn't see you when I was there (or at least didn't notice you, my brain had already taken in some information before) I didn't ask you

but speaking of asking, what did you mean with your last sentence?

[...]
Yeah I got the feeling that the only person you hadn't played with before on that list was Hamilton, so initially I didn't like that you were voting him. But I get being sus of Hamilton when you don't know his playstyle (or even when you do) and actually scum might be less likely to target an unknown over someone they're familiar with anyway.

- I didn't vote Hamilton though, he would be my second choice right now if my suspections (is that a noun in english? can't find the correct phrase just now) of dargo go away or he gets town cleared

[...]
Why is Maniac a solid wagon?

- That's what I'm also asking myself

I am now happy to leave my vote on Maniac because:

1. He is being lazy,
2. and insincere,
c). his defence of Foodcoats is bizarre since simultaneously super emphatic yet also super vacuous,
4. if he remains the top wagon and is town, this will compel him to try.

- I haven't seen any defence from maniac (or can't remember, need to look at it later, just trying to catch up faster right now, have already used many minutes), but thanks for your thoughts, they might be handy for reference

[Kakarroto]

[...]
I am the cop.
[...]

- F@%#

really?

Seriously, for next game... remember your inner thoughts kgray and kak. There are plenty of scummier acting folk and things going on. This feels either lazy (which I know you are not) or scummy, since you know I am towny... who did some scummish things and you could sort of justify a vote.

- no, I don't know you're town. I just felt something off. Kinda like the time with jamiet when he was PR and I thought he was 3rd party. Guess finding PR's on D1 is now my new stick. F@%#

Has Brainbomb hacked Dargorygel's account?

- funny, but darg still sounds true here

##vote darg

You are moving your vote ONTO the person who just claimed Cop?

- what Jamiet said!

##Vote DemonRHK

We can get back to you later though, Cagey-Ray

Do you think that kgray is bussing Demon here?

- kgray? you mean Chaqa? What?

Is it scummy that brainbomb hasn’t done a “meanwhile in maf QT” sketch yet?

- well it was D1 at the time, but here you go:

Kakarroto: that worked pretty well, didn't it?
dargorygel: that's your opinion, now I have to think who might be the miller and get it right
ghug: isn't miller a secret role and no one than HR know it?
Kakarroto: *whisper* ghug is evii~iil *whisper* even when on my team *whisper*
ghug: ... minus a f@%#ton of ghugpoints
belCavendishNY: hello, is it alright to post now?

ok, that took to long, need to read faster

my view of the game will always be secondary to identifying who the important town players are. I dont fully trust the darg claim and I do wonder if that puts us into the setup with no cop.
Additionally demonrhk wagon seems to be born out of very weak ideas. I think he will flip town at this point.

kak is a good counter wagon because he wont be here to defend himself. so if hes scum the mafia will have to fight hard amd actually save him

- hmm ... fair point with the cop, I give you that

also, if you just killed me, and I'm doing that just for the god QT, I need a fanfic of brainbomb and me with him saying "you're already dead, you just haven't caught up yet"

[Hamilton Brian]

So we're not setup 6. There's definitely a cop. If we're setup 3 and there isn't a doctor, then if there was a thought to protect Darg tonight, then we're SOL. And only scum know what setup we're operating under.

14 vs 4. Disregarding the werewolf, I still think town odds are pretty damned hot.

[Kakarroto]

##Vote kakarrotto

Why? I can't find anything that says why you scumread him.

id argued numerous times that his greek god advising to macca seemed very off and that he knew a ton about the bad guys specific flavor. hes been dodgy and relied on one huge post dump to overcome being discussed

Ugh, and here I was reading kak as town. Eff me! The brainbomb logic is appealing, as much as it burns me to say, because I don't fully trust them.

- I'm interested, where exactly is brains logic? What did I knew about the bad guys flavour other than 'titans bad'? Did you just take his word for it or did you have a look at it?

oh and the post dump was always my thing (if you want to vote me off to never see them again, fair point)

I am also null on Demon and Kaka, not a big fan of Demons reads but it's probably OMGUS. But would probably choose him over Kaka if needed.

- it's always good to choose something over Kaka *cough* wordpun *cough*

how tf are kakarot, HB and brainbomb serious wagons at this moment?

bloody oof

- yeah, I don't know how people would vote this town brain

[...]
Its probably not ghug again [...]

- three words: gamblers fallacy

damo could be fooling me and its definetely not out of the realm of possibility. if kak is town damo isnt

- if my death unveils one mafia, I'd say go for it, but I don't think it would truly work that way you imagine it

DEMONRHK has DIED! He was THE MINOTAUR, The MAFIA STALKER!

- holy nice!

though I think I wouldn't have voted demon here other than self preservation. You all did good!

##GM Note:

Fluminator HAS REPLACED belCavendishNY

- Well hello there!

Setup six being out of play means dargorygel is really cop as well. because only setup six has the cop at 0.

darg is confirmed town

- well then, I hope the Doctor knows what to do (and mends my mistake)

[...]
Oops sorry.

When we policy flim flam shimmy ding donged emc.

- petition to make that the only acceptable version

[brainbomb]

hi all, i'm so sorry i missed the beginning of this i'll be reading through backlog but what did i miss?

uhm

[belCavendishNY]

##VOTE nokill (just in case)

[Hamilton Brian]

rip mafia lol

Basically Chaqa conftown with this note of pity haha

Yeah, I doubt it.

[brainbomb]

##VOTE nokill (just in case)

please stop posting

[Hamilton Brian]

##VOTE nokill (just in case)

You might need to be looking for a PM from HR.

[Kakarroto]

hi all, i'm so sorry i missed the beginning of this i'll be reading through backlog but what did i miss?

I'm sorry to say this, but since you didn't post during the first day phase, the Gamemaster decided due to the rules, that you were to be replaced and aren't allowed to play in this game (M66). Your replacement has already posted too.

I'm sure you can register for a game afterwards, and if you don't miss it, you can play it together.

although I'm only a player, maybe a game master or a council member should talk about this too to you

[Hamilton Brian]

So as I catchup, does scum Demon be so bold to include scum partners in their Brainbomb movie? Probably taking two equitable players they know aren't scum and including them for shits and giggles.

Effects of inclusion of brain and jamie in that if:

a) one of the two is scum?
b) both are scum?
c) neither are scum?

I just think Demon thinks they're not going to get killed this early so no harm in making the inclusion. I feel like we're looking at option c and both are town. I'll go forward with that mindset unless I see something in further reading.

[Hamilton Brian]

I thought kgray looked sus for smoothing down Demon’s wagon and now we get a quick “but I was going to vote Demon anyway.” HMM.

Is kgray MORE sus to you now?

[Kakarroto]

Is it scummy that brainbomb hasn’t done a “meanwhile in maf QT” sketch yet?

- well it was D1 at the time, but here you go:

Kakarroto: that worked pretty well, didn't it?
dargorygel: that's your opinion, now I have to think who might be the miller and get it right
ghug: isn't miller a secret role and no one than HR know it?
Kakarroto: *whisper* ghug is evii~iil *whisper* even when on my team *whisper*
ghug: ... minus a f@%#ton of ghugpoints
belCavendishNY: hello, is it alright to post now?

- F@%# my joke just makes me feel awfully bad I'm sorry belCavendishNY