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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#9161 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:19 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:55 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:46 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:55 am
Bob, I do think your collection of claims/scans/whatever is awfully suspect or convenient.
The question is, if I'm not conspiracy theorist and am just pulling something out of thin air on Maniac (which would already be a huge risk), why wouldn't I take some other much smaller risks with my irrelevant scan claims?
I'd argue that you did :razz: .

Also Maniac's not a risk if you had info on him through other means.
Yes, I worked out that's what you were implying. I'm not that dumb. Also how would I have "other means"?

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#9162 Post by ghug » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:21 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:19 am
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:55 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:46 am


The question is, if I'm not conspiracy theorist and am just pulling something out of thin air on Maniac (which would already be a huge risk), why wouldn't I take some other much smaller risks with my irrelevant scan claims?
I'd argue that you did :razz: .

Also Maniac's not a risk if you had info on him through other means.
Yes, I worked out that's what you were implying. I'm not that dumb. Also how would I have "other means"?
However bona did. There are mafia investigative roles.

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#9163 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:23 am

Also I had ample reason to scan those people when I did. Ghug was scumread by quite a few people, HR was... questionable, celaph was also questionable, and bona hadn't been scanned. I was told to use my action among 4 targets, including bona. Then Maniac was pretty suspicious, up with jasnah.

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#9164 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:25 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:21 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:19 am
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:55 am


I'd argue that you did :razz: .

Also Maniac's not a risk if you had info on him through other means.
Yes, I worked out that's what you were implying. I'm not that dumb. Also how would I have "other means"?
However bona did. There are mafia investigative roles.
Unless there's an underdog, no. There's a role cop, but it's loud.

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#9165 Post by Vecna » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:15 am

Theres a tracker

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#9166 Post by Vecna » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:16 am

Anyways, im sure someone can parrot Maniac tonight. It should be trivial to confirm which of you two is speaking the truth here :)

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#9167 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:16 am

Vecna wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:15 am
Theres a tracker
Tracker can't confirm anything at all.

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#9168 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:17 am

Vecna wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:16 am
Anyways, im sure someone can parrot Maniac tonight. It should be trivial to confirm which of you two is speaking the truth here :)
Okay then, we'll see ;)

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#9169 Post by Vecna » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:21 am

Also:

Alien Bloodsucker - Seems very unlikely that this role is around with the claimed PR's we've had. But then again, having me around as a treestump is probably not something theyd want either. Still, Highly unlikely to be in play.

Alien Intercessor - Noone has claimed to be unable to vote yet. They might have holstered it for a lategame surprise since depriving people of votes it not that usefull early game. Unknown whether it exists, but quite likely the only surprise possibility about.

Alien One-shot Mass Redirector - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

Alien Prober - Dead

Alien Psychotrooper - Dead

Alien Sympathiser x2 - The roles that can actually exist still. Take note of this, the remaining aliens are likely to have claimed vanilla.

Alien Vanillaiser - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

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#9170 Post by Vecna » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:24 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:16 am
Vecna wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:15 am
Theres a tracker
Tracker can't confirm anything at all.
With faction knowledge, theres so many deductions you can make with a tracker if youre tracking what everyone is claiming.

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#9171 Post by ghug » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:34 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:23 am
Also I had ample reason to scan those people when I did. Ghug was scumread by quite a few people, HR was... questionable, celaph was also questionable, and bona hadn't been scanned. I was told to use my action among 4 targets, including bona. Then Maniac was pretty suspicious, up with jasnah.
HR was very obviously anime to everyone but me, who was overthinking things and who wanted to kill him the next day. There's no way anyone scans him there. Celaph was a little more in question, though still made for a pretty terrible scan choice.

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#9172 Post by ghug » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:35 am

Vecna wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:21 am
Also:

Alien Bloodsucker - Seems very unlikely that this role is around with the claimed PR's we've had. But then again, having me around as a treestump is probably not something theyd want either. Still, Highly unlikely to be in play.

Alien Intercessor - Noone has claimed to be unable to vote yet. They might have holstered it for a lategame surprise since depriving people of votes it not that usefull early game. Unknown whether it exists, but quite likely the only surprise possibility about.

Alien One-shot Mass Redirector - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

Alien Prober - Dead

Alien Psychotrooper - Dead

Alien Sympathiser x2 - The roles that can actually exist still. Take note of this, the remaining aliens are likely to have claimed vanilla.

Alien Vanillaiser - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage
I think it's entirely possible the bloodsucker and the redirector could exist and just not have been used yet.

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#9173 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:43 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:35 am
Vecna wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:21 am
Also:

Alien Bloodsucker - Seems very unlikely that this role is around with the claimed PR's we've had. But then again, having me around as a treestump is probably not something theyd want either. Still, Highly unlikely to be in play.

Alien Intercessor - Noone has claimed to be unable to vote yet. They might have holstered it for a lategame surprise since depriving people of votes it not that usefull early game. Unknown whether it exists, but quite likely the only surprise possibility about.

Alien One-shot Mass Redirector - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

Alien Prober - Dead

Alien Psychotrooper - Dead

Alien Sympathiser x2 - The roles that can actually exist still. Take note of this, the remaining aliens are likely to have claimed vanilla.

Alien Vanillaiser - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage
I think it's entirely possible the bloodsucker and the redirector could exist and just not have been used yet.
This. Alien vanillaiser is almost certain to be not present, but the other two are more likely.

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#9174 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:44 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:34 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:23 am
Also I had ample reason to scan those people when I did. Ghug was scumread by quite a few people, HR was... questionable, celaph was also questionable, and bona hadn't been scanned. I was told to use my action among 4 targets, including bona. Then Maniac was pretty suspicious, up with jasnah.
HR was very obviously anime to everyone but me, who was overthinking things and who wanted to kill him the next day. There's no way anyone scans him there. Celaph was a little more in question, though still made for a pretty terrible scan choice.
Oh my bad, I should've known the optimal scanning strategies because of all my experience playing investigative roles and town PR's in general.

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#9175 Post by jasnah » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:55 am

@Bob Mcbob should scan between me and Ezio tonight as the two sympathiser candidates. Then he'll have to come down on one side of the fence or the other and either we get a likely clear or a new conflict. Perhaps this is obvious and was already entered, but after HR and two deads were scanned in a row it's hardly a stretch to call for a little government intervention here

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#9176 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:13 am

jasnah wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:55 am
@Bob Mcbob should scan between me and Ezio tonight as the two sympathiser candidates. Then he'll have to come down on one side of the fence or the other and either we get a likely clear or a new conflict. Perhaps this is obvious and was already entered, but after HR and two deads were scanned in a row it's hardly a stretch to call for a little government intervention here
Okay, makes sense. Would anyone prefer a particular scan target?

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#9177 Post by jasnah » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:49 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:13 am
jasnah wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:55 am
@Bob Mcbob should scan between me and Ezio tonight as the two sympathiser candidates. Then he'll have to come down on one side of the fence or the other and either we get a likely clear or a new conflict. Perhaps this is obvious and was already entered, but after HR and two deads were scanned in a row it's hardly a stretch to call for a little government intervention here
Okay, makes sense. Would anyone prefer a particular scan target?
I would prefer me but given that I'm one of the two individuals in question, I doubt my opinion ought to count for much. Those who've been shading me and Ezio at various points should take the lead on this

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#9178 Post by jasnah » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:52 am

I left out earlier the possibility of tentacled townie too, which is a thing, but it's kinda stat unlikely and I'm tempted to say that if you're tentacled, tough luck, take one for the team and make subsequent reports reliable :lol:

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#9179 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:27 am

jasnah wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:52 am
I left out earlier the possibility of tentacled townie too, which is a thing, but it's kinda stat unlikely and I'm tempted to say that if you're tentacled, tough luck, take one for the team and make subsequent reports reliable :lol:
This is a possibility lol. Unlikely, but it may happen. We're far enough ahead that it shouldn't be a massive problem luckily.

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#9180 Post by damo666 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:03 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
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Are any of the Scanned Others possible to be alien?
All of them

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