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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:22 am
by ghug
kgray wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:06 am
Nanook wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 am
I mean it didn’t really matter yeah? Even if I realized you’d made the kill, I think it’s ghug/donny, but it’s irrelevant cause I die anyways. There was stuff that made me not mafia with either of bozo/summit but whenever I brought it up I was told “no that’s meaningless” or whatever, so
Not sure how else I was supposed to defend myself, I’m not interested in yelling until I get listened to or whatever.
No, I meant what I'd claimed was that the bomb saved me and killed bozo, which was why I was clear. I was confirmed town but not outed as jailer. So you, HR and I were the only people who knew for sure that I was lying about being a VT, and the fact that you voted for me when you saw that claim should have tipped us off.
It's not about you defending yourself, I'm saying *I* should have gone a step farther into thinking about why you'd vote a townclear in kylo.
But you're right, it didn't matter, because Flum is the worst.
I mean you were also confirmed town, you were way too hesitant to suspect Flum or HR, VT was the only role that wasn't confirmable and there was I think a plausible reason for a PR to claim VT there even if you were telling the truth to throw off the riddler, so I think claiming VT there and not voting you was pretty reasonable.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:28 am
by kgray
ghug wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:22 am
kgray wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:06 am
Nanook wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 am
I mean it didn’t really matter yeah? Even if I realized you’d made the kill, I think it’s ghug/donny, but it’s irrelevant cause I die anyways. There was stuff that made me not mafia with either of bozo/summit but whenever I brought it up I was told “no that’s meaningless” or whatever, so
Not sure how else I was supposed to defend myself, I’m not interested in yelling until I get listened to or whatever.
No, I meant what I'd claimed was that the bomb saved me and killed bozo, which was why I was clear. I was confirmed town but not outed as jailer. So you, HR and I were the only people who knew for sure that I was lying about being a VT, and the fact that you voted for me when you saw that claim should have tipped us off.
It's not about you defending yourself, I'm saying *I* should have gone a step farther into thinking about why you'd vote a townclear in kylo.
But you're right, it didn't matter, because Flum is the worst.
I mean you were also confirmed town, you were way too hesitant to suspect Flum or HR, VT was the only role that wasn't confirmable and there was I think a plausible reason for a PR to claim VT there even if you were telling the truth to throw off the riddler, so I think claiming VT there and not voting you was pretty reasonable.
Yeah I went back and forth on that some, and it's why I didn't immediately confirm you as scum in my mind even though you cc'd a confirmed town. But I also really underestimated how much you guys didn't think I was the jailer. If I'd have known how hidden I was I would have at least pushed against your VT cc a lot harder.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:32 am
by Fluminator
Durga wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:18 am
Flum ily but stop being mean
I'm okay. Even now he's pretending he did nothing wrong and pretending to be a victim.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:34 am
by kgray
Flum you're pretty salty considering *you're* the person that intentionally threw the game... Besides, didn't you want Durga and Donny to win? I don't get why you're upset about this.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:36 am
by Fluminator
I'm annoyed at Nanook for his "woe is me" attitude.
If I was upset at town, I'd probably be upset at one of the townies randomly commiting suicide for no reason lol.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:41 am
by ghug
kgray wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:28 am
ghug wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:22 am
kgray wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:06 am
No, I meant what I'd claimed was that the bomb saved me and killed bozo, which was why I was clear. I was confirmed town but not outed as jailer. So you, HR and I were the only people who knew for sure that I was lying about being a VT, and the fact that you voted for me when you saw that claim should have tipped us off.
It's not about you defending yourself, I'm saying *I* should have gone a step farther into thinking about why you'd vote a townclear in kylo.
But you're right, it didn't matter, because Flum is the worst.
I mean you were also confirmed town, you were way too hesitant to suspect Flum or HR, VT was the only role that wasn't confirmable and there was I think a plausible reason for a PR to claim VT there even if you were telling the truth to throw off the riddler, so I think claiming VT there and not voting you was pretty reasonable.
Yeah I went back and forth on that some, and it's why I didn't immediately confirm you as scum in my mind even though you cc'd a confirmed town. But I also really underestimated how much you guys didn't think I was the jailer. If I'd have known how hidden I was I would have at least pushed against your VT cc a lot harder.
I was definitely ready for that to maybe happen. Counterclaimimg confirmed town is so stupid on the surface that I don't know it's alignment indicative though.
They said, you probably would have settled on me given long enough because of your totally unreasonable paranoia that I'd been buddying all game.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:41 am
by ghug
kgray wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:34 am
Flum you're pretty salty considering *you're* the person that intentionally threw the game... Besides, didn't you want Durga and Donny to win? I don't get why you're upset about this.
Omg don't remind me I was third.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:42 am
by ghug
Also I'd be pretty damn salty if I'd rolled riddler in this game.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:18 am
by Nanook
Fluminator wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:32 am
Durga wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:18 am
Flum ily but stop being mean
I'm okay. Even now he's pretending he did nothing wrong and pretending to be a victim.
What did I do wrong? Have bad reads? It happens sometimes. I did miss the kgray kill claim, that's fair enough I suppose.
The other stuff you can miss me with, stating an opinion ("your mafia culture is semi-toxic at times"..."this isn't really the environment I enjoy but I'll do my best to play through the game anyways, just don't expect super enthusiastic nanook"...etc)...that isn't playing the victim or whatever, it's just stating my opinion/letting my fellow players know "Hey, this is why I'm like this, incorporate it into your reads." I don't understand why my opinion engenders such a shitty response from you, if you don't like it...idk, go pick some flowers or something and remember my opinion is exactly one person's on the internet who means nothing to you /shrug
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:52 am
by Jamiet99uk
Thanks everyone for playing. I hope you enjoyed some of my flava.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:22 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Just for the record...
Game has ended - Mafia victory
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:07 pm
by Fluminator
Nanook wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:18 am
Fluminator wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:32 am
Durga wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:18 am
Flum ily but stop being mean
I'm okay. Even now he's pretending he did nothing wrong and pretending to be a victim.
What did I do wrong? Have bad reads? It happens sometimes. I did miss the kgray kill claim, that's fair enough I suppose.
The other stuff you can miss me with, stating an opinion ("your mafia culture is semi-toxic at times"..."this isn't really the environment I enjoy but I'll do my best to play through the game anyways, just don't expect super enthusiastic nanook"...etc)...that isn't playing the victim or whatever, it's just stating my opinion/letting my fellow players know "Hey, this is why I'm like this, incorporate it into your reads." I don't understand why my opinion engenders such a shitty response from you, if you don't like it...idk, go pick some flowers or something and remember my opinion is exactly one person's on the internet who means nothing to you /shrug
That's not the part I was annoyed by of you. For the sake of the others reading this I'm not going to restate it and this is my last response to you. Have a good one.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:13 pm
by flash2015
Fluminator wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:36 am
I'm annoyed at Nanook for his "woe is me" attitude.
If I was upset at town, I'd probably be upset at one of the townies randomly commiting suicide for no reason lol.
Who committed suicide?
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:18 pm
by Fluminator
Maniac, but I'm not upset at him. It was really funny.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:22 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Fluminator wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:18 pm
Maniac, but I'm not upset at him. It was really funny.
For the record I asked Maniac about this and he gave the following response:
"I know that within the last minute people may have tried to tie the vote but wouldn't be able to keep up to date with Peter's bot. Thinking on my feet, I thought self voting would throw anyone trying to count the exact score and then I'd vote EMC at the last second."
So, essentially, he was hoping there would be a tie, which he would then break at the last moment.
Unfortunately his timing was not so good.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:19 pm
by bo_sox48
Peak Maniac'ing right there.
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:08 pm
by Donny Dude
Am I the only one who wants a riddler style role?
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:12 pm
by Hellenic Riot
Donny Dude wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:08 pm
Am I the only one who wants a riddler style role?
The role idea was fun, it's just the win conditions that made it... Painful
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:13 pm
by kgray
Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:12 pm
Donny Dude wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:08 pm
Am I the only one who wants a riddler style role?
The role idea was fun, it's just the win conditions that made it... Painful
Maybe if it can't be roleblocked it would work better?
Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:16 pm
by Hellenic Riot
kgray wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:13 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:12 pm
Donny Dude wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:08 pm
Am I the only one who wants a riddler style role?
The role idea was fun, it's just the win conditions that made it... Painful
Maybe if it can't be roleblocked it would work better?
Well, RB aside it needs to not be instantly game over for it if either Scum or Town loses.
Not sure how else I was supposed to defend myself, I’m not interested in yelling until I get listened to or whatever.