M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[Durga]

It's worcej so this kind of thing doesn't mean he has to be scum, unfortunately.

Inb4 I inadvertently defend another mafia

[goldfinger0303]

Because if I'm understanding it right, he is accused of crumbing tasmanian devil, then claims to have fake-crumbed cop (As soon as he mentioned Kindergarten Cop his weird posts clicked for me) in order to draw the NK.

Too many crumbs for too many roles.

So you didn't pick up on his crumbs before? What crumbs did you see Damo doing?

Dude I'm not looking for crumbs

[kgray]

Lmao worcej. If you're town, did you not consider a fairly obvious negative repercussion to your plan?

Oh I did, but again - team game bro.

I think I gave you a group that has a scum in it. Use what I provided... or do the standard webdip thing and never look at what the dead provided

You keep saying this and yet you have what is maybe the most anti-town game here. And also what I think Flum is referring to is something that would most definitely not be a positive for your team if you're town. I don't see how you can be town without considering the anti-town possibilities, and how you can think whatever scumreads you'd get for people pushing you would outweigh those.

[BunnyGo]

As part of my drive to "listen to the dead", let's see what Damo thought:

Strange change of meta from Bozo but unlikely as scum.

CORRECT.

##vote gold

(For Jamie)

CORRECT.

I had a dope Taz shirt as a kid that I would wear religiously. It was the #1 choice shirt to wear to school several years in a row

I guess this is why Tom is being voted. Would he be so obvious?

Is it worth taking the risk?

##vote Tom

CORRECT.

My town 4 (all based on tone/gut feel)

Durga
Rdrivera
TrPrado
Yav

Closely followed by kgray and hthe4th.

Tom and MF definitely not a scumpair*, neither is Tom and Hthe4th. This is due to Tom's hockey confusion.

*unless MF or hthefourth traitor

INCORRECT! (UNLESS hTheEMC is the traitor...hmmm...maybe Damo is STILL CORRECT??)

Would food move his vote from me if he were scum. Doubtful.

##vote Moscow

CORRECT.

Can you read, my son?

Can you give me the Cliff's Notes?

Tom possibly crumbed Devil. Obviously denies it.

I think food has crumbed a town role. He neither confirms nor denies.

That's about it.

Incorrect about Tom, but possibly correct about food?

Durga: was town leaning but slightly disturbing attitude to Moscow
Vecna: screams town
Kgray: was town leaning but Bozo's worry about her vote pattern is valid. Monitor.
HR: bit light on the posting front. Slight townlean but unsure
rdr: seems on same wavelength as me, early vote on MF. Strong town.
Seth: bullish, possible late busser
Gold: not seen enough but small townlean FWIW
Summit: timing of MF vote suggests town
Worcej: really unsure on this spot, if pushed would say town
Bozo: very scumhunty so assume town but has the craftiness to be anything
Macca: needs to step up. Easy to have doubts about them. Unsure.
Bunny: Bugs me (ho ho). Cannot read
Food: def town if I was right, if wrong still lean town though scum not impossible
H IV: no idea
Flum: timing of MF vote suggests town
Tom: severe doubts on this slot
TrPrado: townlean
Flash: I would guess town but bussing not impossible
Yav: townlean

Current guess at scumteam: Tom Bunny H IV Seth Reserves: kgray Macca worcej

Incorrect. But maybe something there? Was correct about Tom...

If I was really bussing MF, wouldn't it have made more sense for him to vote for me too?

MF was gone before you voted for him. He made his final post with 39 minutes left:

I don't like the damo wagon anymore for previously stated reasons. Maybe I can reevaluate later if I have to but as of now I'm finding it hard to believe he's calling out prs as scum.

I have to go now, so if you guys screw up and kill me, I think Macca and especially yaz now after the vote fiasco both deserve closer looks and more questioning. Someone else who I think has been flying way under the radar is flum which shouldn't be dismissed. I feel good about durga and gray as town. Macca looks like it's not going to happen so ##Vote yaz, partly because of his vote and partly to save myself. Peace.

He voted for yavuzovic "partly to save" himself, explained why he was not voting for damo, but did not mention you, even though you were tied with him at 4 while yavuzovic and damo had 3 votes.

When Moscow voted he made it 4 4 4 3. If you ignore me (as he suggests) that makes it a 3 way contest. if he voted Flash it would be 5 4 3 3 and more likely to be a 2 way contest. Maybe it was simple as that, he preferred his chances in a 3 way especially if he knew he couldn't be around. This would make sense if Flash and Yav both town.

Possibly correct.

[seth24c]

Ok I am still trying to catch up. I’ve read posts from yesterday and today. Going to iso the top wagons and make sure I get a vote in because I probably won’t be around for eod today.

[kgray]

@Bunny I will help you make gold a wagon (no promises that I'm staying there though) if we can get more people on worcej so it can compete with the food/bozo wagons. I think killing food is a waste of time, and of course everyone on bozo needs to change their vote.

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny I will help you make gold a wagon (no promises that I'm staying there though) if we can get more people on worcej so it can compete with the food/bozo wagons. I think killing food is a waste of time, and of course everyone on bozo needs to change their vote.

Wooo! Kgray has reached Nirvana!

[bozotheclown]

foodcoats was probably the other player looking for a sub, so he may be headed for a mod-kill.

Let's make this interesting.

##vote damo

Time to get some VCA for later.

Atta boy. I’ve got a meeting at 5:30. So I’m relying on you to pound that drum at eod (god help me).

It seems unlikely Tom would say this to a teammate if he really was trying to get damo killed over MF. worcej could be the traitor, but fake crumbing cop is not a good way to try to get recruited.

[kgray]

I am adding flash back to my top scum suspects. When Tom finally moved his vote off of damo at 7 minutes before EOD, flash or MF were almost certain to be the kill.

I don’t understand this post.

Tom voting for flash looked like he was trying to save MF, which would mean flash was less likely to be scum. However, looking at it again,Tom was pushing damo over flash or MF as long as possible, and by the time he voted for flash, it was almost certain flash or MF would be the kill, so he may have just decided to bus flash. Add that to MF ignoring flash when he made his final vote, flash self voting over voting for MF or an MF counterwagon, and flash's lurking, and I think flash should be considered a scum suspect.

I could see it, although Tom could also have been trying to avoid putting a deciding vote on a flash miskill by staying on damo, and then only moved to flash in the end to try to save Moscow.

[BunnyGo]

foodcoats was probably the other player looking for a sub, so he may be headed for a mod-kill.

Let's make this interesting.

##vote damo

Time to get some VCA for later.

Atta boy. I’ve got a meeting at 5:30. So I’m relying on you to pound that drum at eod (god help me).

It seems unlikely Tom would say this to a teammate if he really was trying to get damo killed over MF. worcej could be the traitor, but fake crumbing cop is not a good way to try to get recruited.

Interesting point. Join me on goldie?

[Durga]

Guys I will not be around EoD again. I am soooo sorry. Having a life sucks.

[bozotheclown]

I don’t understand this post.

Tom voting for flash looked like he was trying to save MF, which would mean flash was less likely to be scum. However, looking at it again,Tom was pushing damo over flash or MF as long as possible, and by the time he voted for flash, it was almost certain flash or MF would be the kill, so he may have just decided to bus flash. Add that to MF ignoring flash when he made his final vote, flash self voting over voting for MF or an MF counterwagon, and flash's lurking, and I think flash should be considered a scum suspect.

I could see it, although Tom could also have been trying to avoid putting a deciding vote on a flash miskill by staying on damo, and then only moved to flash in the end to try to save Moscow.

Maybe, but flash was already ahead when Tom voted for him. Of course Tom couldn't justify voting for MF, though.

Also, flash was MF's primary counterwagon at the time of this general defense of MF (13 minutes before EOD):

Eh. I really feel Moscow would have lurked more if he were scum. Maybe getting some early pressure forced his hand, but he could have sat back and I don’t think anyone would have thought it odd.

But again, maybe his meta has changed.

That post seems unnecessary if Tom did not prefer a flash kill over MF, so I am going to back off on flash again.

[BunnyGo]

Guys I will not be around EoD again. I am soooo sorry. Having a life sucks.

Yeah yeah. Rub it in our faces.

[TrPrado]

Lmao worcej. If you're town, did you not consider a fairly obvious negative repercussion to your plan?

Oh I did, but again - team game bro.

I think I gave you a group that has a scum in it. Use what I provided... or do the standard webdip thing and never look at what the dead provided

I believe you mean TEAM game

##VOTE WORCEJ

[bozotheclown]

foodcoats was probably the other player looking for a sub, so he may be headed for a mod-kill.

Atta boy. I’ve got a meeting at 5:30. So I’m relying on you to pound that drum at eod (god help me).

It seems unlikely Tom would say this to a teammate if he really was trying to get damo killed over MF. worcej could be the traitor, but fake crumbing cop is not a good way to try to get recruited.

Interesting point. Join me on goldie?

I would consider it, but I would prefer emc. emc will never be able to resolve the questions I have about uhthefourth.

##VOTE emc

[kgray]

Also, if both Moscow and flash were Tom's teammates, Tom would have had no real reason for this post where he tries to keep people on flash:

I really want to see Moscow flip. Flash flipping tells us nothing.

So just let lurkers lurk? Bleh

[kgray]

Guys I will not be around EoD again. I am soooo sorry. Having a life sucks.

I think you should move off food. I doubt he's scum but he's likely to get modkilled anyway.

[BunnyGo]

foodcoats was probably the other player looking for a sub, so he may be headed for a mod-kill.



It seems unlikely Tom would say this to a teammate if he really was trying to get damo killed over MF. worcej could be the traitor, but fake crumbing cop is not a good way to try to get recruited.

Interesting point. Join me on goldie?

I would consider it, but I would prefer emc. emc will never be able to resolve the questions I have about uhthefourth.

##VOTE emc

Also a good point.

[BunnyGo]

Does anyone object to having RoadRunner claim and reveal their known town at EON2? (Or sooner if a miskill is coming)

[yavuzovic]

Seriously, we shouldSeriously, start using a different word. I suggest Violently Remove From This Plane of Existence bozo so we would be sure if he really signaled the mafia

This is also quite moronic. Are you just trying to appear too scummy to be scum?

Sorry about the word it really comes without intention.
Why would I be. Two scums already confirmed the theory. I suggest digging until we hit the rock