M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[Durga]

Why you ignored hthefourth defense of you?

His post seems less a defense of me and more an attack on Bunny (which indirectly defends me, but I don’t think that was the intention. I can see why people would scumread Bunny in general because of how he plays. I also don’t know hthefourth, like I do bozo and damo

Again Tom indicates he does not know hthefourth, but my research shows they went to the same college.

i laughed out loud really hard. bozo, i want to know you on a personal level so badly

[TheMadMonarch]

@Macca who do you think are most likely to be Moscow and Tom's partners?

I definitely don't trust Bozo. I've felt bad about him for a while, and I certainly wouldn't oppose taking him out today.

Granted, I haven't met drunk bunny before, but it's not giving me good vibes.

[bozotheclown]

Atta boy. I’ve got a meeting at 5:30. So I’m relying on you to pound that drum at eod (god help me).

What a strange post. Worcej looking a little townier to me.

Yeah good observation. Tom was generally awkward so doubt he'd react like that to worcej

if he was actually town hed have a million obnoxious reasons why im an imbecilw for thinking hes scum.

Instead we get "but what if im a town pr?" "Does this make you suspicious of me?"

If you really think there is a chance I am the traitor and voted for all of the scum D1, you should vote for BunnyGo or Durga.

you are blowing my mind here. completely. is this your attempt at miskills or do you think we're genuinely scummy for separate reasons?

So, I think it's worth comparing the reactions of all those involved to kgray's theory.

Agh bozo do you exist just to fuck all your teammates or what?

I did wonder that. But realized:

1) I’m not scum. So it would have to be a partial signal
2) if he/they flipped it would give away too much
2a) having been scum while he was traitor before, I find him very capable of hiding as traitor and not bothering with signals.

First we have bozo accept the possibility of the theory - very okay to go through with it provided 3 scum flips happen.

Durga deflects

Bunny tries to find fault in the logic of the proposal.

Frankly I'm not sure what to make of it. There are plausible alternative scenarios where any combination of the three could be scum. I will skip kgray's.

1) Bozo is scum and Bunny/Durga are town. As scum he would be trying to soft clear himself by getting one of the other two daykilled and disproving the theory. I don't view this as likely. Maybe I was just swayed by the volume of bozo's posting N1, but it seemed in earnest and pretty towny. If there is only one scum in the three of them, I think bozo is the least likely. His unwillingness to die is completely in character for him - he traded the cop's life for his own as VT in the last game I played with him.

2) Durga is scum. I had already mentioned that joking about being scum was odd, and this is the second time she did it. She disappeared today and seemed a bit deflated.

3) Bunny is scum. His defense relies so much on knowledge exclusive to him.The biggest thing about the info angle is that 1) It depended on flips happening 2)It depended on people going back in a VCA potentially days later and tying it together, and 3) Even then, if it was a partial signal it could be defensible.

If Flum indeed does have a shot, it should be one of these three, regardless of who is leading on the vote count. In terms of giving an open/shut resolution on the theory, bozo is the most logical target to choose. However I'm hesitant to throw my support behind it because aside from this theory he's the less likely of being scum among the three.

fuck i'm actually gonna sound like chaqa but i had a date and am not rude enough to play mafia on my phone all evening as much as i would generally like to do that.

maybe my page of content will make it up to you? lmao, how do you think town would react to people taking this kind of theory seriously? i kinda don't like how you didn't bother looking at this as if we were town.

my comment at bozo was obv a joke, because i know his statement is not true and i never considered it was something people would actually take seriously

You and BunnyGo are not my top scum suspects, but I know I am town.

[TheMadMonarch]

I actually quite enjoy kgray's theory, and think it is something we could follow on.

[hthefourth]

Hey if anyone wants to give me a gun I'll shoot Flum

I'm not going anywhere. You're going to have to nightkill me to get rid of me <3

I change my mind, not you, not now <3 Stay with me

What are the chances that bozo is the traitor who signaled his team (Moscow, Bunny, Tom and Durga) with his rapid-fire D1 voting?

I'm actually going to fucking scream if Bunny flips scum. This would be close to the Vecna "bo-chaqa-ghug are the same person" moment

I was already pretty suspicious of Tom D1, something just felt off in his interactions with people, and in particular with Moscow. The fact Moscow has since flipped scum really reinforces that - He's my number one scumread now.

Pretty sure Riot is also not mafia

wow, I love this theory

Miniscule. But wouldn't that be incredible.

Why do you think it's miniscule htf?

What are the chances that bozo is the traitor who signaled his team (Moscow, Bunny, Tom and Durga) with his rapid-fire D1 voting?

I like this theory also. If Bunny, Tom, and Durga all flip scum, you can use a mis-kill on me.

Sounds like you know I'm not gonna flip scum so you're ok to say this - why would you even like this theory. This doesn't seem very bozo of you

What are the chances that bozo is the traitor who signaled his team (Moscow, Bunny, Tom and Durga) with his rapid-fire D1 voting?

That's a great point to discover if it's true. Maybe we should remember it as the game proceeds and we gather more info. It's a dangerous maneuver though.

people taking this seriously are suspicious i'll let you be for now though since moscow voted you before he left

My mistake--forgot that the traitor comes into the game knowing their teammates. That seems creative, and also plausible.

[bozotheclown]

Even though Tom flipping scum makes flash less likely to be scum, it is not impossible that Tom was just bussing flash at the end.

[Durga]

Bozo - Why do you weirdly keep pushing your own statement as something you'd be down for when in all possible worlds you know it to be false.

It's dumb enough that other people are contemplating it seriously, but you know it isn't true. The only reason you'd want to go along with it is if you're scum trying to get miskills. Stop encouraging it if you're town.

[bozotheclown]

I'm not going anywhere. You're going to have to nightkill me to get rid of me <3

I change my mind, not you, not now <3 Stay with me

What are the chances that bozo is the traitor who signaled his team (Moscow, Bunny, Tom and Durga) with his rapid-fire D1 voting?

I'm actually going to fucking scream if Bunny flips scum. This would be close to the Vecna "bo-chaqa-ghug are the same person" moment

I was already pretty suspicious of Tom D1, something just felt off in his interactions with people, and in particular with Moscow. The fact Moscow has since flipped scum really reinforces that - He's my number one scumread now.

Pretty sure Riot is also not mafia

Miniscule. But wouldn't that be incredible.

Why do you think it's miniscule htf?

I like this theory also. If Bunny, Tom, and Durga all flip scum, you can use a mis-kill on me.

Sounds like you know I'm not gonna flip scum so you're ok to say this - why would you even like this theory. This doesn't seem very bozo of you

That's a great point to discover if it's true. Maybe we should remember it as the game proceeds and we gather more info. It's a dangerous maneuver though.

people taking this seriously are suspicious i'll let you be for now though since moscow voted you before he left

My mistake--forgot that the traitor comes into the game knowing their teammates. That seems creative, and also plausible.

You did not answer my question about whether you knew Tom before this game.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo - Why do you weirdly keep pushing your own statement as something you'd be down for when in all possible worlds you know it to be false.

It's dumb enough that other people are contemplating it seriously, but you know it isn't true. The only reason you'd want to go along with it is if you're scum trying to get miskills. Stop encouraging it if you're town.

I know it is not true, but I do not know for sure that you and BunnyGo are town. However, I am not pushing for you or BunnyGo to be killed.

[hthefourth]

I change my mind, not you, not now <3 Stay with me



I'm actually going to fucking scream if Bunny flips scum. This would be close to the Vecna "bo-chaqa-ghug are the same person" moment



Pretty sure Riot is also not mafia



Why do you think it's miniscule htf?



Sounds like you know I'm not gonna flip scum so you're ok to say this - why would you even like this theory. This doesn't seem very bozo of you



people taking this seriously are suspicious i'll let you be for now though since moscow voted you before he left

My mistake--forgot that the traitor comes into the game knowing their teammates. That seems creative, and also plausible.

You did not answer my question about whether you knew Tom before this game.

In real life? No. On webdip? Played a game with him. On mafia? No.

[summit_fever]

I change my mind, not you, not now <3 Stay with me



I'm actually going to fucking scream if Bunny flips scum. This would be close to the Vecna "bo-chaqa-ghug are the same person" moment



Pretty sure Riot is also not mafia



Why do you think it's miniscule htf?



Sounds like you know I'm not gonna flip scum so you're ok to say this - why would you even like this theory. This doesn't seem very bozo of you



people taking this seriously are suspicious i'll let you be for now though since moscow voted you before he left

My mistake--forgot that the traitor comes into the game knowing their teammates. That seems creative, and also plausible.

You did not answer my question about whether you knew Tom before this game.

Lemme guess you've got the SAT scores too.

[bozotheclown]

My mistake--forgot that the traitor comes into the game knowing their teammates. That seems creative, and also plausible.

You did not answer my question about whether you knew Tom before this game.

In real life? No. On webdip? Played a game with him. On mafia? No.

What did you make of this:

Is hthefourth relatively new?

Also, kgray - what are your thoughts on bozo and damo hopping on the bandwagon? They have both played probably at least half a dozen games with me so I find it strange they would consider such a poor play plausible.

Do you think he did not remember you?

[summit_fever]

##vote seth

[hthefourth]

You did not answer my question about whether you knew Tom before this game.

In real life? No. On webdip? Played a game with him. On mafia? No.

What did you make of this:

Is hthefourth relatively new?

Also, kgray - what are your thoughts on bozo and damo hopping on the bandwagon? They have both played probably at least half a dozen games with me so I find it strange they would consider such a poor play plausible.

Do you think he did not remember you?

From the game of diplomacy? Plausible. It was a game with a lot of heavy hitters on this site and I got knocked early. What's your point?

[Durga]

My mistake--forgot that the traitor comes into the game knowing their teammates. That seems creative, and also plausible.

You did not answer my question about whether you knew Tom before this game.

Lemme guess you've got the SAT scores too.

I'm almost certain bozo is a computer and not an actual human being

[summit_fever]

*tinfoil hat on*

vecna starting to nail moscow on a vote of me, coupled with some nice pocketing of me, makes me a lil nervous. Also didn't see a typical vecna night 1, and now he really wants to nail bozo on something that just isn't likely.

[Durga]

In real life? No. On webdip? Played a game with him. On mafia? No.

What did you make of this:

Is hthefourth relatively new?

Also, kgray - what are your thoughts on bozo and damo hopping on the bandwagon? They have both played probably at least half a dozen games with me so I find it strange they would consider such a poor play plausible.

Do you think he did not remember you?

From the game of diplomacy? Plausible. It was a game with a lot of heavy hitters on this site and I got knocked early. What's your point?

He thinks y'all know each other from college. Where he's getting his info from is beyond me. But I'd like to have these sources.

[summit_fever]

You did not answer my question about whether you knew Tom before this game.

Lemme guess you've got the SAT scores too.

I'm almost certain bozo is a computer and not an actual human being

Squigs experimenting with a webdip turning machine probably.

[Durga]

*tinfoil hat on*

vecna starting to nail moscow on a vote of me, coupled with some nice pocketing of me, makes me a lil nervous. Also didn't see a typical vecna night 1, and now he really wants to nail bozo on something that just isn't likely.

This was me towards vecna in the last game and he was town. Man is just low key brilliant. If he survives too long it'll be suspicious anyway so this is the kind of player that will sort itself out and there's no reason to worry about it.

[bozotheclown]

In real life? No. On webdip? Played a game with him. On mafia? No.

What did you make of this:

Is hthefourth relatively new?

Also, kgray - what are your thoughts on bozo and damo hopping on the bandwagon? They have both played probably at least half a dozen games with me so I find it strange they would consider such a poor play plausible.

Do you think he did not remember you?

From the game of diplomacy? Plausible. It was a game with a lot of heavy hitters on this site and I got knocked early. What's your point?

Tom started the game saying this:

“Fluminator is replacing Chaqa”

What a pleasant surprise to start the game. Also I think I know pretty much everyone in this game which is cool.

However, he acted like he did not know who you are when he was getting questioned about your defense of his post:

Does anyone else find Tom's first two posts odd? The triggered me as I read them. I'm just wondering if anyone else sees it.

##vote BunnyGo . I can't think of many concrete reasons to votekill someone this early in the game, but casting the vaguest of shades on someone else is one of them. Also I didn't find Tom's posts odd. Also I'm not sucking up. Also I'm town. Also... I'll stop now.