M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[foodcoats]

Well congrats on being wrong but it's generally bad practice if you're town and genuinely scum read someone only to then join them on voting the person they scum read.

Regardless, nothing about food has been townie. And like I said, if not me and Macca - his damo and goldie reads feel so off.

I want to know what he thinks is scummy about goldeen.

I do that frequently when I consider bussing a possibility. In this case, foodcoats has not said he suspects you and Macca are scum teammates, he just listed both of you among scum suspects.

No he said something about me bussing

Indeed, I speculated Durga's vote was an early bus of Macca. I actually wanted to see if Durga would move if I augmented the wagon. It occurred.

[kgray]

For everyone confused/concerned about my bozo stance:

My push to policy him was a joke. My later statement that said he reads like obv scum to me was completely serious and independent of the joke. I think he's been borderline useless in making meaningful contributions despite being around and posting plenty. The problem is that that's exactly how I read him the last game I played with him when he was town, which is why I'm not focusing on him. I will say one thing though - to all the people saying what a great town player bozo is and how he can solve the game for us later on, you couldn't be further off the mark.

I've now been in two games with town!bozo who had the game either 100% (M1010) or 66% (M1015) solved by the time he was the NK. If something about him screamed scum to me I obviously wouldn't be opposed to voting him, but it's not happening D1. His first two days last game were also lacking in meaningful contributions but then he was the only town to actually put in any effort to solving the game, and completely caught me and summit as scumbuddies.

[bozotheclown]

Oh god. Just read flash’s iso. It’s short and awful. Every post. Let’s make this a viable option. ##vote flash.

I suggest everyone compares flash's posts to his D1 posts from M47.

[foodcoats]

a) I don't care about his scum read on me
b) I don't like that he's scum reading me AND macca when I literally was the only person voting for macca and there is no reason for me to bus here if I was scum
c) damo?????? ffs
d) i actually don't find goldie questionable? in fact i'm leaning town.
e) foodcoats was scumreading ME and then joined the wagon I was on. I am not voting for macca w/ foodcoats

I do not think it is inconsistent to find you and Macca suspicious without considering how likely it is you are scum teammates.

Well congrats on being wrong but it's generally bad practice if you're town and genuinely scum read someone only to then join them on voting the person they scum read.

Regardless, nothing about food has been townie. And like I said, if not me and Macca - his damo and goldie reads feel so off.

I want to know what he thinks is scummy about goldeen.

I think damo is town now.

I am a bit suspicious of gold for the ol' "excuse me but I need to be excused" but I think I put a question mark next to his name. Mostly just vibes. I wouldn't vote for gold today.

[hthefourth]

Oh god. Just read flash’s iso. It’s short and awful. Every post. Let’s make this a viable option. ##vote flash.

I'll second that ##vote flash

[rdrivera2005]

@rdr maybe you meant 'obstinate'.

Obstinate is also a good word, but more like obstinate on doing something even with many people telling not to...

[BunnyGo]

Oh god. Just read flash’s iso. It’s short and awful. Every post. Let’s make this a viable option. ##vote flash.

I suggest everyone compares flash's posts to his D1 posts from M47.

Wow. That’s impressive.

[bozotheclown]

Well congrats on being wrong but it's generally bad practice if you're town and genuinely scum read someone only to then join them on voting the person they scum read.

Regardless, nothing about food has been townie. And like I said, if not me and Macca - his damo and goldie reads feel so off.

I want to know what he thinks is scummy about goldeen.

I do that frequently when I consider bussing a possibility. In this case, foodcoats has not said he suspects you and Macca are scum teammates, he just listed both of you among scum suspects.

No he said something about me bussing

OK, I did not remember that, I was just going by his reads list where he called you both "scumlike". From my point of view, you and Macca are reasonable scum suspects.

[kgray]

I am surprised there is no interest in flash today. M47 demonstrated that he will use his history of low D1 participation to his advantage as scum.

This is a good point except that I thought he always had low participation. I'm not opposed to a flash kill

flash has limited history as scum, but what he has done D1 here most matched M47, where he was scum. I suspect he will stay away as long as he is not getting votes.

Why is your stance on voting flash for lurking so different from your stance on voting food for lurking? What makes a flash wagon not pointless?

[kgray]

@bozo I apologize for my comment above... that was rude. I always get too loose in this game.

I actually think you're the best player here, but I don't understand why you think we should discuss PRs.

This post makes me really uncomfortable.

[yavuzovic]

I will not be on at EOD, I will be in a stage rehearsal at that time. Is it better to vote for a wagon now, or to put my vote on someone who isn't. Considering it's currently a tie, I would think whatever gives town the greatest ability to quickly shift targets would be best, but which of those options would do so?

Any answer appreciated. I will otherwise default on one of the major wagons.

I've had no response to my earlier question, so I will do as a planned

##VOTE damo


See you tomorrow!

I really hated these. Its like he is looking for someone's advice so he can throw the mud on them when the wagon flips town. I really scumread Macca now. I can even vote for him ##vote Macca

[summit_fever]

@bozo I apologize for my comment above... that was rude. I always get too loose in this game.

I actually think you're the best player here, but I don't understand why you think we should discuss PRs.

This post makes me really uncomfortable.

Why?

[bozotheclown]

Oh god. Just read flash’s iso. It’s short and awful. Every post. Let’s make this a viable option. ##vote flash.

I suggest everyone compares flash's posts to his D1 posts from M47.

Wow. That’s impressive.

flash usually does not participate much D1, but in M47 and this game he avoided any significant game related content. In M1013, when flash and I were the scum team, flash participated more and ended up getting killed D1, so I could see him going back to his M47 form.

[foodcoats]

This is a good point except that I thought he always had low participation. I'm not opposed to a flash kill

flash has limited history as scum, but what he has done D1 here most matched M47, where he was scum. I suspect he will stay away as long as he is not getting votes.

Why is your stance on voting flash for lurking so different from your stance on voting food for lurking? What makes a flash wagon not pointless?

I can't seriously be compared to flash at this stage in the game, can I? Flash has posted four times.

[kgray]

Macca's wagon seems lazy to me. Macca's meta has changed here. I'm not sure what that means, but I'm getting the impression they've rolled town.

I agree, and I'm slightly concerned that Macca is low-hanging fruit for scum to push a miskill.

[BunnyGo]

flash has limited history as scum, but what he has done D1 here most matched M47, where he was scum. I suspect he will stay away as long as he is not getting votes.

Why is your stance on voting flash for lurking so different from your stance on voting food for lurking? What makes a flash wagon not pointless?

I can't seriously be compared to flash at this stage in the game, can I? Flash has posted four times.

LIAR!! IT’S FIVE TIMES!!! SCUUUUUUMMMMMMMM

[BunnyGo]

Macca's wagon seems lazy to me. Macca's meta has changed here. I'm not sure what that means, but I'm getting the impression they've rolled town.

I agree, and I'm slightly concerned that Macca is low-hanging fruit for scum to push a miskill.

I think yavu made a good point above.

[rdrivera2005]

I am surprised there is no interest in flash today. M47 demonstrated that he will use his history of low D1 participation to his advantage as scum.

This is a good point except that I thought he always had low participation. I'm not opposed to a flash kill

If Flash is scum he will probably get himself killed or scumslip in some bizarre way....

[foodcoats]

@bozo I apologize for my comment above... that was rude. I always get too loose in this game.

I actually think you're the best player here, but I don't understand why you think we should discuss PRs.

This post makes me really uncomfortable.

Would you like me to make more rude personal attacks? Do you not like that I think bozo is very good at Mafia? Do you think scum!food is pocketing town!bozo?

Bozo usually catches me when I'm scum. I've ducked his prescience twice. So I always have it in the back of my mind that sheeping bozo is positive EV. But I don't agree with some of his reads so far, so m'eh.

Although technically it's only positive EV if I am scum, so... hmm... Well this is probably why I'm bad at this.

[Durga]

Macca's wagon seems lazy to me. Macca's meta has changed here. I'm not sure what that means, but I'm getting the impression they've rolled town.

I agree, and I'm slightly concerned that Macca is low-hanging fruit for scum to push a miskill.

I'll defer to those who were scum with him