Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:50 pm
I mean I feel bad for him if he's being told to just try and look like he's contributing. That's not the way to do it lmao
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I now somewhat townlean HR. His responses to me seem sincere and I'm worried I was tunnelling. His responses to you are very convincing.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:22 pmYou did not talk about him much the rest of the day, and you did not vote for him and voted for both his counter wagons, yet you were willing to vote for HB D3. If you preferred killing HR or summit over HB D2, what has changed your mind? HR and summit are still in the game.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:10 pmOn what basis do you purport that I was ignoring him?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:03 pm
It is not logically inconsistent to think certain things make you look like possible scum partners. Why did you ignore HB the rest of D2 after he answered your question?
Then why didn't you follow Vecna when you gave up on my wagon?kgray wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:00 pmBecause Vecna was basically townclear, so I trusted his reads more than anyone else's besides my own, and because despite summit being that far down on my list, he's a null, not a townread.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:17 amWhy would you consider following Vecna onto summit if summit was so far down your preferred kill order?
I have explained this here:Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:07 pm
#772: @kgray, tell me specifically why my vote was scummy? Why are you, from this post, linked so closely to HR? NonTown vibes from you. When HR flips scum, that's going to look bad on you.
Also, I do not think I am linked closely with HR? Please explain why you think that.kgray wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:37 pmIt just came out of nowhere, generally causing confusion and panic. And Hamilton had hardly mentioned summit before, but now that summit is suddenly an option at the EOD he wants him gone more than HR?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:16 amCan you explain what you think the scum motivations for his votes were?
I don't understand what Hamilton's thought process is during voting. When he tried to explain his vote switches after D1 it didn't make sense to me, and this vote here makes no sense. If he's town and has a consistent scumread, why wouldn't he want to see that flip? I think Hamilton is scum who doesn't know where to put a vote and tries to come up with reasons afterwards that make sense - but they don't because they're not coming from a townie perspective.
I guess he also could have been protecting his scumbuddy HR. That would be a lot of busing, though.
You had an opportunity to kill HB D2 EOD, but you stayed on summit. Why did you vote for HB over summit at the beginning of D3?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:51 pmI now somewhat townlean HR. His responses to me seem sincere and I'm worried I was tunnelling. His responses to you are very convincing.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:22 pmYou did not talk about him much the rest of the day, and you did not vote for him and voted for both his counter wagons, yet you were willing to vote for HB D3. If you preferred killing HR or summit over HB D2, what has changed your mind? HR and summit are still in the game.
I still scumread summit and YET AGAIN he is being allowed to lurk.
Yes, I did come up with some potential town reasons for Hamilton's D1 votes. However, when he explained his votes, it was not with the townie reasons I would have expected.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:16 pmWhy did you wait until 7 minute before D2 EOD to vote for HB then? When HR asked you about HB during D2, you seemed to come up with some potential town reasons for HB's D1 votes.
Who are you and what did you do with bozo?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:56 pmYou had an opportunity to kill HB D2 EOD, but you stayed on summit. Why did you vote for HB over summit at the beginning of D3?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:51 pmI now somewhat townlean HR. His responses to me seem sincere and I'm worried I was tunnelling. His responses to you are very convincing.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:22 pm
You did not talk about him much the rest of the day, and you did not vote for him and voted for both his counter wagons, yet you were willing to vote for HB D3. If you preferred killing HR or summit over HB D2, what has changed your mind? HR and summit are still in the game.
I still scumread summit and YET AGAIN he is being allowed to lurk.
HB was a wagon D2, yet you only talked about HR and summit being your top scum reads. HB voted for you D1 and D2, do you think he had good reasons for voting for you?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:53 pmI love how Bozo equates "not talking about someone much" with "ignoring" them.
If that's the case, Bozo you did a fucking LOT of "ignoring" until today.
I'm not sure. I guess I still went with my read over his.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:51 pmThen why didn't you follow Vecna when you gave up on my wagon?kgray wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:00 pmBecause Vecna was basically townclear, so I trusted his reads more than anyone else's besides my own, and because despite summit being that far down on my list, he's a null, not a townread.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:17 am
Why would you consider following Vecna onto summit if summit was so far down your preferred kill order?
You were voting for Jamie, you indicated you might vote for summit because Vecna was, and you tried to start a wagon on me, all before voting for HB. I am having trouble understanding this if you thought this about HB's explanation earlier D2: "It's complete nonsense and I find it very unlikely to come from a town mindset."kgray wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:58 pmYes, I did come up with some potential town reasons for Hamilton's D1 votes. However, when he explained his votes, it was not with the townie reasons I would have expected.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:16 pmWhy did you wait until 7 minute before D2 EOD to vote for HB then? When HR asked you about HB during D2, you seemed to come up with some potential town reasons for HB's D1 votes.
I had stronger scumreads than Hamilton yesterday, and I was voting for those until near EOD when it became clear that staying on a vanity wagon would be pointless, and I was trying to consolidate.
I had more than one scumread and I voted for all three of them at some point. In the end I joined the one who was already a wagon, and who had just made a vote that I found to be completely random and inconsistent with everything they'd been saying during the day. I find those to be two pretty strong incentives to vote for one scumread over another.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:07 pmYou were voting for Jamie, you indicated you might vote for summit because Vecna was, and you tried to start a wagon on me, all before voting for HB. I am having trouble understanding this if you thought this about HB's explanation earlier D2: "It's complete nonsense and I find it very unlikely to come from a town mindset."kgray wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:58 pmYes, I did come up with some potential town reasons for Hamilton's D1 votes. However, when he explained his votes, it was not with the townie reasons I would have expected.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:16 pm
Why did you wait until 7 minute before D2 EOD to vote for HB then? When HR asked you about HB during D2, you seemed to come up with some potential town reasons for HB's D1 votes.
I had stronger scumreads than Hamilton yesterday, and I was voting for those until near EOD when it became clear that staying on a vanity wagon would be pointless, and I was trying to consolidate.
So you were considering HB's vote for summit already when you decided to vote for HB?kgray wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:12 pmI had more than one scumread and I voted for all three of them at some point. In the end I joined the one who was already a wagon, and who had just made a vote that I found to be completely random and inconsistent with everything they'd been saying during the day. I find those to be two pretty strong incentives to vote for one scumread over another.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:07 pmYou were voting for Jamie, you indicated you might vote for summit because Vecna was, and you tried to start a wagon on me, all before voting for HB. I am having trouble understanding this if you thought this about HB's explanation earlier D2: "It's complete nonsense and I find it very unlikely to come from a town mindset."kgray wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:58 pm
Yes, I did come up with some potential town reasons for Hamilton's D1 votes. However, when he explained his votes, it was not with the townie reasons I would have expected.
I had stronger scumreads than Hamilton yesterday, and I was voting for those until near EOD when it became clear that staying on a vanity wagon would be pointless, and I was trying to consolidate.
I saw it when I hit "preview" right before I posted my vote. So no, he would have been at the top of my list anyway, but it made me feel pretty confident in it.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:32 pmSo you were considering HB's vote for summit already when you decided to vote for HB?kgray wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:12 pmI had more than one scumread and I voted for all three of them at some point. In the end I joined the one who was already a wagon, and who had just made a vote that I found to be completely random and inconsistent with everything they'd been saying during the day. I find those to be two pretty strong incentives to vote for one scumread over another.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:07 pm
You were voting for Jamie, you indicated you might vote for summit because Vecna was, and you tried to start a wagon on me, all before voting for HB. I am having trouble understanding this if you thought this about HB's explanation earlier D2: "It's complete nonsense and I find it very unlikely to come from a town mindset."
No. I'm town.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:00 pmHB was a wagon D2, yet you only talked about HR and summit being your top scum reads. HB voted for you D1 and D2, do you think he had good reasons for voting for you?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:53 pmI love how Bozo equates "not talking about someone much" with "ignoring" them.
If that's the case, Bozo you did a fucking LOT of "ignoring" until today.
Because there was much more momentum on HB and I don't want another bloody draw.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:56 pmYou had an opportunity to kill HB D2 EOD, but you stayed on summit. Why did you vote for HB over summit at the beginning of D3?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:51 pmI now somewhat townlean HR. His responses to me seem sincere and I'm worried I was tunnelling. His responses to you are very convincing.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:22 pm
You did not talk about him much the rest of the day, and you did not vote for him and voted for both his counter wagons, yet you were willing to vote for HB D3. If you preferred killing HR or summit over HB D2, what has changed your mind? HR and summit are still in the game.
I still scumread summit and YET AGAIN he is being allowed to lurk.