MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[bozotheclown]

I suppose there is not much of a chance flash's claim is fake since it was apparent the kill would be deflected to Chaqa, and there is no reason for the 3P to get in a CC battle.

[summit_fever]

Referring to Rdrivera

His day 1 end was pretty lame too. But I don't read him as mafia scummy, that's for sure.

Summit, I told, more then once, that EOD is on the middle of my return from work to home. Sometimes I can wait a bit at work, sometimes I can't.
I even told I won't be online at EOD, but decided to stop at a gas station to be on at EOD. I voted Chaqa when I saw the claim.
If you don't believe me, fine, but I already told this in other games and it's annoying when people use this to scumread me.

You did say that, but you were around and I have no way of knowing you were at a gas station. (I admire the dedication though) I'm not trying to railroad you; I'm just trying to play the game.

[summit_fever]

This does not answer my question in the slightest. Please answer my question.

Furthermore, if day 1 is town v town, why would the second leading wagon be someone you're willing to vote for today?

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Read my post. I was saying typically TvT Day 1 have lots of singleton voters, but since we didn't have that, I suspect scum was on the block and therefore the normal ones who are singletons (scum) were not.

I'm not sure what sort of answer you were expecting. I'm not going to be able to or motivated to re-read most of day 1, so better to just get summaries and work from there. I think, barring scumslips, etc., ignoring most things people say in favor of vote analysis is better anyway.

Another post to reference from chaqa about the day 1 wagons.

You're a precocious player, that's for sure.

[bozotheclown]

What should we do about the VP being outted? Is there any benefit to keeping specifics hidden?

I think it is still useful to hide whether it is an investigative or protective role.

If you learned something useful N1 I assume you will tell us at EON.

[seth24c]

Read my post. I was saying typically TvT Day 1 have lots of singleton voters, but since we didn't have that, I suspect scum was on the block and therefore the normal ones who are singletons (scum) were not.

I'm not sure what sort of answer you were expecting. I'm not going to be able to or motivated to re-read most of day 1, so better to just get summaries and work from there. I think, barring scumslips, etc., ignoring most things people say in favor of vote analysis is better anyway.

Another post to reference from chaqa about the day 1 wagons.

You're a precocious player, that's for sure.

I'm ashamed I had to look that one up.

[bozotheclown]

We could still do Desperado target claims, but based on the mediocre participation N1, I would say that if there is a Desperado, they should just announce their target at EON if they choose to use their power.

[summit_fever]

We could still do Desperado target claims, but based on the mediocre participation N1, I would say that if there is a Desperado, they should just announce their target at EON if they choose to use their power.

I felt awkward with the amount of information being given away. What do you think?

[rdrivera2005]

Wait but town rdr always yells at me at least once and you haven't yelled at me yet rdr sooooo

I didn't yell with you last mini-game and you killed me N2

[Durga]

Wait but town rdr always yells at me at least once and you haven't yelled at me yet rdr sooooo

I didn't yell with you last mini-game and you killed me N2

oh yeah I killed you N1 actually

[bozotheclown]

We could still do Desperado target claims, but based on the mediocre participation N1, I would say that if there is a Desperado, they should just announce their target at EON if they choose to use their power.

I felt awkward with the amount of information being given away. What do you think?

Since the scum do not know if the roles exist, I do not think there was any information they could find useful.

[worcej]

Wow after reading through chaqa was really out to get emc. Is there bad blood from previous games or what lol.

I don’t know wether you can read much into what he was trying to do. He could just as easily been trying to bus and failed while doing it.

[Hamilton Brian]

The way he's pushing people is giving me a strong vibe that's he's just making things up and/or going for low hanging fruit like "emc NEVER votes this early in the day!!"

Holy shit! You're prescient. Probably the improper use of the word, but you nailed it.

That was some fast, fast work to end the day.

[Hamilton Brian]

I don't want to get fixated on Chaqa too much since he's dead, however can someone spell out why they might have started on EMC, moved to me, back to EMC, then finally on me?

EMC moved the vote to Chaqa which made it 5/5. They saved me, and flash solidified it.

How many scum were on that Chaqa wagon to end the day?

[Hamilton Brian]

This is not how townslips work

What do you mean?

Scum would be paying way more attention. Someone just coming in and voting for someone who left the game has to be town

Not sure why there's a wagon on me, but I'm heading out. Kill scum EMC pls

This post is very interesting now.

What do you find interesting about it?

I'm not too sure why Chaqa decided to come to my defense. I would think, and I'll have to look at the time of post compared to vote record on the bot, that if the wagon started to swing to them, they would have tried to push more on me.

[Hamilton Brian]

Nice work everyone! Glad you all picked up on whatever I missed to get him. Can someone explain how you knew?

His push on emc rang a bunch of alarm bells for me

Remind me to go back to Chaqa's posts about EMC to get a sense of those alarm bells.

[summit_fever]

I don't want to get fixated on Chaqa too much since he's dead, however can someone spell out why they might have started on EMC, moved to me, back to EMC, then finally on me?

EMC moved the vote to Chaqa which made it 5/5. They saved me, and flash solidified it.

How many scum were on that Chaqa wagon to end the day?

Flash had claimed at that point ("I have reasons"). When someone says that. they're claiming. Chaqa knew this and was trying to salvage something with the last move on you.

You didn't do well by being inconsequential in the final vote. You did well in being townread enough that people were questioning the move (which I helped start) on you.

For the earlier moves, chaqa and EMC have a goodbud thing going on. Was he bussing EMC or trying to misdestroy emc? Not sure, but I'd lean towards the latter.

As for scum on Chaqa wagon, that's a good question.

[Hamilton Brian]

In more of the "no shit sherlock" deduction I'm doing, no one MOVED off of Chaqa.

And I guess I am reading you for town for sure, Vecna. And Flash. So there's that.

Vecna, you moved really fast off of me to start that Chaqa wagon. What happened?

And going back through, came across this post from you to BoSox: "Why ask that question of chaqa, bo? Were you under the impression he has actually done/read something at all in this game?" Were you satisfied with their response to your question?

[Hamilton Brian]

Thanks Summit. I didn't connect the Flash claim into the voting record.

What does "misdestroy" mean? Not seeing that referenced anywhere that I am looking.

[summit_fever]

Thanks Summit. I didn't connect the Flash claim into the voting record.

What does "misdestroy" mean? Not seeing that referenced anywhere that I am looking.

miscrucify, misdrown, misslaugther, misfusillade, miskill, misl.....

[e.m.c^42]

Wow after reading through chaqa was really out to get emc. Is there bad blood from previous games or what lol.

Nah, we're friends lol, it's just a running joke to give shit (appropriately if I may say) on not voting early, and he's got a habit of dropping an early vote on me for a few games now, I think.