MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[ghug]

I thought Durga's "woe-is-me won't I ever townread you summit?" to be a little much and perhaps scum-motivated.

Pls explain why

Some sort of pocketing manoeuvre. Or just the booze.

Are you Canadian or the bad kind?

[summit_fever]

Pls explain why

Some sort of pocketing manoeuvre. Or just the booze.

Are you Canadian or the bad kind?

lol

[ghug]

Some sort of pocketing manoeuvre. Or just the booze.

Are you Canadian or the bad kind?

lol

This is no laughing matter.

[summit_fever]

Are you Canadian or the bad kind?

lol

This is no laughing matter.

Canadian

[bo_sox48]

I’m kind of annoyed that I just woke up in the middle of the night, decided to read up on this thread because I hate myself, and found nothing more than a page and a half of ghug shitposting

[TrPrado]

I’m kind of annoyed that I just woke up in the middle of the night, decided to read up on this thread because I hate myself, and found nothing more than a page and a half of ghug shitposting

Be the content you want to see in webDip Mafia

[TrPrado]

These were some very specific things for worcej to complete agree with, especially about a player he had not previously mentioned and had voted for him D1.

##VOTE worcej

So your case is I am OMGUS'ing summit?

That, and the fact that you never mentioned summit before so strongly agreeing with TrPrado's scum read of him, especially since TrPrado's reason for voting for summit was for things summit specifically did to TrPrado, like not responding to his questions.

Well, to be fair, I did not say they were all specifically my questions, because they were not only mine. Is there much of a distinction between this and voting for someone else for how their interactions look?

[Vecna]

Why the Vecna vote Bozo? I've already asked Durga and he seems wildly townread.

I still find Vecna suspicious for voting for BunnyGo then questioning Bismarck voters when BunnyGo flipped town.

Yes, it does feel like he latched on to Bunny as an easy miskill. He has a lot of single line activity but I am not feeling he is getting anywhere with it.

Can you point out some of those one-liners that arent going anywhere?

And how could I have predicted that bunny was going to be the harpoon target a full day before deadline again?

I do not like this post

[Vecna]

Maybe! Worcej could very well be on a quest to better himself, like a Buddhist monk of WebDip Mafia... But I think the simpler explanation is scum meta (motivation to be less abrasive and obtrusive) versus town meta (lack of a need to control).

I could go along with this.

##VOTE worcej

pot/kettle, calling me out for latching on to the easy wagon and then he does this without explanation?

[Vecna]

Woohoo! Caught up.

And here he claims he is caught up, yet all he has done is responded a little bit to the last 3 pages of the game with very vapid thoughts.

Claims im latching on to easy votes (not realizing the timing of my vote I bet), and then does it himself. Then does it again with the Worcej statement.

Flash is just trying to fly under the radar by agreeing a bunch with people

[Vecna]

What is your reason Durga? You never said one.

Answer mine first

Because he actually has a reason unlike your apparent sheeping.

Why do you keep making it seem like people sheeping someone else is inherently bad? If people agree with someone, maybe they had a decent argument.

Trying to convince people is at the core of this game. Ghugs reasoning was really much worse than all the other people that voted you, yet you take an arbitrary choice to just cuddle up to him for whatever reason.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.7

Yoyoyozo (5) - Rdrivera2005, Durga, summit_fever, TrPrado, damo666
Summit_fever (2) - bo_sox, worcej
TrPrado (2) - ghug, Foxy
Worcej (2) - bozotheclown, vecna
e.m.c^42 (1) - Chaqa
seth24c (1) - Hamilton Brian
vecna (1) - Flash2015
ghug (1) - Seth24c

YOYOYOZO is scheduled.

Yoyoyozo and EMC must vote. Chaqa has not met participation requirements.

11 hours and 35 minutes are left in Day Two.

[Vecna]

Because he actually has a reason unlike your apparent sheeping.

So you think he reason is good?????

It is the best out of any one presented. If you think my defense is scummy, then that is in game and a decision you made yourself.

You really gonna sit there and claim that taking a random post and saying "this is scummy" after a bunch of people start a wagon on you is a better reasoning for hopping on than the meta case fox brewed up?

[Vecna]

Seth, with 9 minutes to go until the EoD, you changed your vote from Bis to Unv based on the notion that Bunny was the first to start the Bis wagon. Why did that cause you to take your vote off? Did Bunny offer compelling evidence that the Bis wagon was an appropriate one?

Hamilton making it glaringly obvious that he is not actually reading the game

[TrPrado]

Wanting to find an alternative in what now looks like the likely case of Yoyo not meeting the requirements in time, going back to the interactions he had and ugh.

Bozo just being happy to drop that vote on me and disappear again, without as much as doing any mech-y talk. Not even an opinion to share on the proper grammar and construction on the statements?

Whats up with that bozo?

I believe the grammar was well covered. I do not think there is much with the setup to discuss yet, there are 81 possible combinations of town PRs. I think there would be some value in a mass claim so that we know what we are dealing with, but it is not obvious that the benefit would outweigh the cost of our PRs getting killed early, so I am confident there would be little or no support for a mass claim.

Bruh.
If it already wasn’t clear to you, this is a really shitty idea. I’d say this was super fishy if it weren’t such an obviously bad idea, and we weren’t fresh off a loss due to one of your genius plans. You’re doing me no favors in my effort to convince myself that you’re going to be useful this game.

the bolded text [added bold] funny

immediately after he supports hypo claim idea, gets slightly hedgy on it when it catches flak

most (almost all) of his substance is about the "i am town" statements or the hypo claim idea, and the only person who can be SOMEWHAT incriminated by them if Yoyo flips scum would be bozo

who's talked about him? thats a lot more content from the looks of it

[snip]

##vote Yoyo, just on a feeling that his push on Durga seems so fake.

theres something about this that feels almost off, to anyone else?

went and reread bozo's town read of Yoyo and it's literally "yeah he was vocally in favor of my hypo claim idea no scum would be!" got a good chuckle

Yoyoyozo was arguing the benefits of the Weak Doctor hypo claims, all things (Prado note: this was included with Bunny and damo town reads for other reasons) that I felt they would not be doing as scum.

[TrPrado]

oh dang its late

[Vecna]

In short the only person who really seemed to even make a case for bunny with their vote was HR and now he is dead. The others on the wagon. Myself, ghug, venca, and worcej are obvious scum candidates. I've made my case about my unfortunate thought process for my vote.

I think there is a great change of 1 or 2 scum out of the remaining three.

Venca and ghug as some will remember had an interesting exchange earlier in day 1 where venca asked ghug when they would finally role scum together.

Ghug also distances from venca in this post.

It amazes me that some people actively contemplate posting limits with respect to themselves.

Where I stand now is that I don't really want to kill Durga or Yoyo. The former seems generally townie and is suspicious of me in a way I noticed she wasn't in the last game as scum and I should have pushed more on. I was buying the "Yoyo seems cagey" thing, but he made that really dumb post attacking Durga last night, and I think rabid stupidity is more of a town Yoyo thing. I still like the bunny kill. Bismarck is fine, I guess, but I honestly have no idea why anyone is voting for him.

Other townreads are foxy and damo. I want to townread Vecna but I'm remembering more and more that he's usually scum when I do that. The rest of you are kinda useless.

As well as this post by venca I still don't know what to make of.

anyways bunny, you might actually want to look up proper material to compare if youre town, because its very possible youre currently trying to appeal to a naughty person to convince them.

Can you try this post again? I’m still drinking coffee and can’t make sense of it.

ghug also has this very surprised (may just be his MO but still) reaction to the bunny flip.

Whoops

That post to bunny (the one you dont know what to make off) was me telling him that he was appealing to someone that was quite possibly scum to try and convince her why I was scum.

It was that moment where I shouldve unvoted him, but I did not think at that moment I would not be able to get back to the game before Eod.

[Vecna]

If seth were scum I don't think he'd be trying to build Mt. Everest in the thread. Especially without using the bot.

Finally summit has some level of thought melding going on, and thoughts that seem relevant.

[Vecna]

I'm feeling really good about Seth being town. If he's scum that's some impressive shit.

Also, I'm hella sus of ghug and would like to request whoever has night powers that are investigatory to check him out. I can't understand why he would change his meta as town so drastically. He was actually useless last game and just the fact that he's stopped joking as much irks me.

Agree on seth.

The thing with Ghug is.....whenever he is scum, doesnt he just turn into honey? Like a sweet little bee, buzzing around and getting people to like and appreciate him with jokes and whatnot?

Here....I feel he is much more all over the place. He doesnt give much fucks about looking good, and most of the shit he does and says irks me. That is usually an indicator that he's at least not tryharding a scumgame, because when he does that everything he says just sounds so logical and appealing.

[TrPrado]

I still find Vecna suspicious for voting for BunnyGo then questioning Bismarck voters when BunnyGo flipped town.

Yes, it does feel like he latched on to Bunny as an easy miskill. He has a lot of single line activity but I am not feeling he is getting anywhere with it.

Can you point out some of those one-liners that arent going anywhere?

And how could I have predicted that bunny was going to be the harpoon target a full day before deadline again?

I do not like this post

I keep forgetting flash is playing, I don’t like that he keeps slipping under the radar, I was going to iso him before I saw what time it is